US gov would restrict internet access during pandemic and block access

[spacedog]

Was just reading this article posted at http://www.naturalnews.com/027364_in...c_traffic.html

Basically, it says that the government would restrict popular websites from being accessed during pandemic.

Pretty fucked up.

[dav3]

pandemic in 3.. 2..

[potter]

[[ insert tinfoil hat picture here ]]

[TheDoc]

I guess that article was wrong.

[stoner529]

Originally Posted by spacedog

Was just reading this article posted at http://www.naturalnews.com/027364_in...c_traffic.html

Basically, it says that the government would restrict popular websites from being accessed during pandemic.

Pretty fucked up.

where is the fucked up part. didnt you READ the article. it said the were worried that people would stay home and watch to many youtube videos and download to much PORN. bring on the pandemic. sounds like sales to me!!!!!

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by stoner529

where is the fucked up part. didnt you READ the article. it said the were worried that people would stay home and watch to many youtube videos and download to much PORN. bring on the pandemic. sounds like sales to me!!!!!

yup sounds good to my bank account to me

[Major (Tom)]

We The People... Remember that??
duke

[BlackCrayon]

naturalnews...sounds like a credible source.

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

naturalnews...sounds like a credible source.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d108.pdf

[After Shock Media]

Is this more of a "keep some available bandwidth open" type shit like they have always done in times of emergencies with other forms of communications, or is it real tin foil hat shit?

[Redrob]

Another foil to rid the internet of net neutrality....ie, the national emergency.

All governments fear open communications among the ruled population.

The fax machine brought down the USSR.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by spacedog

Was just reading this article posted at http://www.naturalnews.com/027364_in...c_traffic.html

Basically, it says that the government would restrict popular websites from being accessed during pandemic.

Pretty fucked up.

We learned this the first season of Jericho.

[Dirty Dane]

Although it is important to keep economy under control, it is the Wall Street that has done the damage to economy.
Maybe it is better to block Wall Streets excessive access to the world instead, and maybe we do not need a pandemic as excuse to shut down illegal traffic...

[Redrob]

Pandemic = national emergency = suspension of habeus corpus + lockdown on communications = total control of population for own good = neocon wet dream....

Just imagine the possibilities.....unfreeze Reagan, clone Nixon, and put Cheney in charge.

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Pandemic = national emergency = suspension of habeus corpus + lockdown on communications = total control of population for own good = neocon wet dream....

The first to go, will be Alex Jones YouTube channel. Then he won't be able to tell the world, that Steven Spielberg and his zionist friends created the flu to shut down P2P sites. That will be a sad day, because people like him has so many important messages to the younger peoples bright minds.

[Redrob]

Alex is sincere in his beliefs. I am more of Austin's Bill Hicks School of Conspiracy than the Alex Jones Infowar School. Life in Austin is never boring.

[potter]

I'm sure it'll never happen anyway. If they tried this in the event of an emergency - Obviously the supreme court would step in as it's a direct violation of the 24th Amendment "The right to bear youtube videos".

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by spacedog

Was just reading this article posted at http://www.naturalnews.com/027364_in...c_traffic.html

Basically, it says that the government would restrict popular websites from being accessed during pandemic.

Pretty fucked up.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is silly.

The president signed Declaration of National Emergency, givews them right to hold you for unlimited amount of time if you have swine flu, you cannot own your guns, they can call Martial law etc... people need to wake up and stop thinking this is just a game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act

Your right to a trial is gone under Emergency Time too. Most of your constitutional rights are gone under a National Emergency, Ive seen it in person during hurricanes, cops will arrest you on the spot for being outside after dark.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by potter

I'm sure it'll never happen anyway. If they tried this in the event of an emergency - Obviously the supreme court would step in as it's a direct violation of the 24th Amendment "The right to bear youtube videos".

[TheDoc]

Haven't we already reached pandemic levels? Why hasn't this started to happen?

We have had national emergencies before, with these same laws already in place, and nobody restricted anything before, why now?

Of course, it's not like the Gov has a big switch to flip the Internet off. And it's not like you can flip a switch and youtube is now off the Internet or all the ISP's just fold up.


Some of you people - are straight up stupid.

[Fletch XXX]

Its a good subject Spacedog, and good reading:

gun rights and quarantining people are big issues, and considering we have video of cops taking guns from citizens during hurricanes, and there is no doubt you can be quarantined in this country (its happened to people on this forum entering US)

President Obama has declared the H1N1 or “swine” flu a “national emergency.” Exactly what this will mean to the average citizen remains unclear, as shortages of the swine flu vaccine continue; but it is unlikely that simply declaring an “emergency” will relieve bottlenecks in distribution or cause additional supplies to magically appear. What is perhaps more interesting, will be if governors follow the president’s lead and start declaring state “emergencies” simply because the H1N1 flu virus has appeared in their state. Various “emergency declaration” provisions in state law books or currently being considered by state legislatures (such as in Massachusetts) give the governors extensive, if not downright frightening powers once an “emergency” is declared.

Legislation currently pending in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, for example, would allow the governor to forceably quarantine citizens in the event he declares a “health emergency.” Forced vaccinations could also be ordered, and even forced police entry into private homes and destruction of property; citizens could be jailed for failure to comply. In Georgia, the legislature placed at least some limitations on the powers our governor would enjoy if he were to declare a “health emergency”; limits that would allow the citizens of the Peach State a great deal more freedom from unchecked police powers than would be enjoyed by their counterparts in the Bay State.

In Georgia, for example, the governor must first obtain the agreement of the General Assembly before the still-extensive powers he would enjoy presiding over a self-declared “emergency” or “health emergency” could be exercised. And, reflecting our very different understanding of the Second Amendment in Georgia as opposed to Massachusetts, in Georgia even in a declared emergency the governor could not take away a citizen’s personal firearms if the citizen owned them prior to the declaration. While any such limitation on the right of a law-abiding citizen to possess (or buy) a firearm would be inappropriate — especially in an emergency when by definition the need to protect one’s family or one’s home might be especially critical — at least the Georgia state legislature had the foresight to address the preservation of the Second Amendment under such circumstances.

http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2..._bob_barr_blog

do i really need to post videos of cops entering homes in new orleans during hurrianes, dragging people out, arresting them, and taking their guns? again? LOL All because they are in their own homes with a gun during an emergency?

[Fletch XXX]

heres video for non believers: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7529226066500#

watch that video then tell me it cant/wont happen in the US LOL

watch law abiding citizens dragged out of their home, arrested, guns confiscated, simply for being in their own home during hurricane (emergency).

[Marshal]

i don't care about facebook, as long as people stay at home and surf for porn and make mad sales...

[TheDoc]

Hurricanes are smaller, easier to control situations with 100,000's of people gone. And in this situation with crime happening, people walking around with guns, people being murdered, people looting... and the fact the police do come up and you have your guns out kind tells you the situation and oddly, afterward huge amounts of problems stopped.

It wasn't like a bunch of Cali blond bitches live in those mansions, those are red neck, beer drinking, monster truck owners that will shoot your ass for looking black on a no moon night during that time.

In situations like this, anytime when the general population clearly isn't able to keep proper-legal order, I expect the powers at hand to step up and take control, whatever control is needed - legal or not.

After all it is the Gov's job to protect the people...

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It wasn't like a bunch of Cali blond bitches live in those mansions, those are red neck, beer drinking, monster truck owners that will shoot your ass for looking black on a no moon night during that time.

I stopped reading there, if you really think Uptown of new orleans, The Garden District is rednecks, you really have no concept of what new Orleans is really like.

The mansions on Saint Charles street are NOT owned by monster truck driving simpletons. The only simpleton is one who holds such beliefs. Rednecks here do not own 14 million dollar homes.

Amazing. you try to call others silly or stupid yet retort with such ignorance?

I stopped reading there and wont even continue to address such nonsense.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I stopped reading there, if you really think Uptown of new orleans, The Garden District is rednecks, you really have no concept of what new Orleans is really like.

The mansions on Saint Charles street are NOT owned by monster truck driving simpletons. The only simpleton is one who holds such beliefs. Rednecks here do not own 14 million dollar homes.

Amazing. you try to call others silly or stupid yet retort with such ignorance?

I stopped reading there and wont even continue to address such nonsense.

Well, in Texas we call the fellow that 'had the bigger guns', rednecks, and the mullet on the other guy is kind of a dead give away. And, I'm sure they were simply watching the ol'tv, when the bad police came busting in and took our guns!

Yeah..... I'm sure.

BTW, plenty of super rich red necks... I know a few myself.

[Fletch XXX]

The idea isnt what you "call them." The problem is, you seem to flip flop - one post you say its never gonna happen, then post that you actually "expect the gov to step in and take control." The idea of some redneck in texas, calling uptown mansion dwellers "rednecks" is in itself hilarious to be honest. The same stereotypes you apply to others definitely apply t you as a "Texan."

You are using your stereotypes of others to detract from the fact that martial law has been used under emergencies many times.

Instead of addressing the issue you want to go off on rednecks, it makes discussing things like this difficult and not worth the time, simply because you are just posting your own opinion of another group of people which has nothing to do with the fact of gun consifcation, quarantiniung, arresting people during emergencies etc...

in fact, you also ignorantly say "well it wasnt some blond Cali women" as if that matters, An American citizen regardless of position/wealth/ race still has rights, but hey, keep detracting and pretending you are actually participating in the discussion.

Simple fact is, I posted video of martial law taking place on American streets (which you claim never happened), wiyth clip of soldier saying he hopes he doesnt have to shoot someone on American soil and the reason is because they are in their own homes, with guns. Twist it how you want, but you are detracting with your stereoypes and hate for others.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

We have had national emergencies before, with these same laws already in place, and nobody restricted anything before, why now?

Read the government report from GAO

You'll find out just how far the dems are willing to go "to protect you"

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Anyone who thinks otherwise is silly.

The president signed Declaration of National Emergency, givews them right to hold you for unlimited amount of time if you have swine flu, you cannot own your guns, they can call Martial law etc... people need to wake up and stop thinking this is just a game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act

Your right to a trial is gone under Emergency Time too. Most of your constitutional rights are gone under a National Emergency, Ive seen it in person during hurricanes, cops will arrest you on the spot for being outside after dark.

I have been doing allot of reading about this type of shit since you mentioned you went through something similar and was going to hit you up about some info and info I found.

There will always be persons that don't believe this and think the government would never do anything against its citizens...they better take a second look at this fine establishment again

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

I have been doing allot of reading about this type of shit since you mentioned you went through something similar and was going to hit you up about some info and info I found.

There will always be persons that don't believe this and think the government would never do anything against its citizens...they better take a second look at this fine establishment again

Seeing the Chief of Police come on TV and boldy state "Guns will be taken, no one will be allowed to be armed." Followed by clips of cops with M1s drawn kicking in doors demanding you leave your home tends to make me look at things differently than some of these people who have never been through any real emergency. Ive been forced to leave home against my will, many have. YOU MUST GO, and they have guns and you dont.

If they will lock you up, take your guns, have the power to jail you until the emergency is over (during a hurricane) you can bet your ASS they will do it with Swine Flu. To think otherwise is to have no logic. Ive read too much Thomas Paine to disregard logic for fear or trust in the gov.

If they do it for rain storms, marks your words theyll quarantine and take your guns for mass outbreak of swine flu.

Am I saying it WILL happen? No, but am I saying they have the power to do so, and the Pres has already signed Declaration giving them two years of martial law (if they want it) - yes, im saying that.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Seeing the Chief of Police come on TV and boldy state "Guns will be taken, no one will be allowed to be armed." Followed by clips of cops with M1s drawn kicking in doors demanding you leave your home tends to make me look at things differently than some of these people who have never been through any real emergency. Ive been forced to leave home against my will, many have. YOU MUST GO, and they have guns and you dont.

If they will lock you up, take your guns, have the power to jail you until the emergency is over (during a hurricane) you can bet your ASS they will do it with Swine Flu. To think otherwise is to have no logic. Ive read too much Thomas Paine to disregard logic for fear or trust in the gov.

If they do it for rain storms, marks your words theyll quarantine and take your guns for mass outbreak of swine flu.

Am I saying it WILL happen? No, but am I saying they have the power to do so, and the Pres has already signed Declaration giving them two years of martial law (if they want it) - yes, im saying that.

If it's OK, I wanted to hit you up later with some info I ran across that I found interesting and wanted to run a couple of things past you.....

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

If it's OK, I wanted to hit you up later with some info I ran across that I found interesting and wanted to run a couple of things past you.....

Not sure what advice I can offer, but I have no problem with someone contacting me

I am just a regular guy but my eyes are open.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

The idea isnt what you "call them." The problem is, you seem to flip flop - one post you say its never gonna happen, then post that you actually "expect the gov to step in and take control." The idea of some redneck in texas, calling uptown mansion dwellers "rednecks" is in itself hilarious to be honest. The same stereotypes you apply to others definitely apply t you as a "Texan."

You are using your stereotypes of others to detract from the fact that martial law has been used under emergencies many times.

Instead of addressing the issue you want to go off on rednecks, it makes discussing things like this difficult and not worth the time, simply because you are just posting your own opinion of another group of people which has nothing to do with the fact of gun consifcation, quarantiniung, arresting people during emergencies etc...

in fact, you also ignorantly say "well it wasnt some blond Cali women" as if that matters, An American citizen regardless of position/wealth/ race still has rights, but hey, keep detracting and pretending you are actually participating in the discussion.

Simple fact is, I posted video of martial law taking place on American streets (which you claim never happened), wiyth clip of soldier saying he hopes he doesnt have to shoot someone on American soil and the reason is because they are in their own homes, with guns. Twist it how you want, but you are detracting with your stereoypes and hate for others.

I claimed martial law never happened? I said "I expect the powers at hand to step up and take control," to me that says, I know and expect martial law to happen under the right situations.

And anyway, you missed the point that I'm just making fun of you're posts.. pretty much calling them stupid.



You 'pretend' to make it sound like every home, got it's door busted down, people home or not, guns taken away..... when that isn't the case. Massive amounts of people, flaunted the guns, used them and more than enough reason for the gov to have to take control and diffuse the situation, and they did.

They have taken guns before... this isn't the first time. They already take the majority supply of ammo during war times, they can take your guns, your metal, your food.


My first post points out, that we are already at pandemic (or so they say) and this hasn't happened. And if for some reason, we reached real pandemic levels... then you will rightfully see this happen "for the protection of the people."

It's a problem, when it's not a pandemic and they do it.. until then.


Like other hurricane areas, if you don't want the Gov to 'force control' then don't act like a bunch of jack asses giving them a reason to take control.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Not sure what advice I can offer, but I have no problem with someone contacting me

I am just a regular guy but my eyes are open.

Cool beans. I have a couple of friends that moved to AZ that were in the Katrina mess and I have heard some horror stories very similar to yours.
I am not looking for any advice, just curious about a couple of things and believe me, my eyes have been wide open for many years about uncle sam.

My Grandfather was a Mason and I used to think he was nuts with all the things he used to tell me, but now I can see the guy was not too far off in his beliefs.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I claimed martial law never happened?

Originally Posted by TheDoc

We have had national emergencies before, with these same laws already in place, and nobody restricted anything before, why now?

I wont even address what followed...

You tried to claim "nobody restricted anything before" and I posted vid clip of cops taking guns and chief of police stating "no one will be allowed to be armed."

It must be either contempt for intelligence or facts that drive some of you to post. Anyhow, please stop. I really have no desire to continuously point out the silly things you claim/say.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

Cool beans. I have a couple of friends that moved to AZ that were in the Katrina mess and I have heard some horror stories very similar to yours.
I am not looking for any advice, just curious about a couple of things and believe me, my eyes have been wide open for many years about uncle sam.

My Grandfather was a Mason and I used to think he was nuts with all the things he used to tell me, but now I can see the guy was not too far off in his beliefs.

and on that, i am out, its Sunday, (i forgot it was!) no need to be on here arguing with people who think "nobody restricted anything before" even after vid is posted of cops stating otherwise

LOL

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I wont even address what followed...

You tried to claim "nobody restricted anything before" and I posted vid clip of cops taking guns and chief of police stating "no one will be allowed to be armed."

It must be either contempt for intelligence or facts that drive some of you to post. Anyhow, please stop. I really have no desire to continuously point out the silly things you claim/say.

You should include the entire quote, and not a part of what I say, and not a sub-part of a topic and make up your own topic... such a lame fuck.


I was "clearly" talking about restricting the Internet.. not restricting a persons rights due to Martial Law in an area that need it.


Would you like to try again?