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read a review on Tom's Hardware today that concluded saying there will be about a 7% perceivable difference from Vista to 7. That's a little small, imo.
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Bump for V_rocks to answer few questions
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http://store.apple.com/us/reviews/MC...co=MTI2NzQzMzQ
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It's a good thing windows 7 doesn't suck cocks like Vista did. I'm still using XP on my work PC. I just took a gamble a couple weeks ago and ordered a custom gaming rig with Win 7 on it, I guess my gamble has payed off?
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seems i need to upgrade as i just got a laptop with Vista on it and my life has been a nightmare ever since
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don't forget to get some nice SSD drive for it (ocz vertex or intel)... i'm running i7 920 + tripple 6gb memory + ssd + win7 = amazing... you'll never go back to regular HDD
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Windwos 7 is looking like Windows Vista should look at the first time
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Which ssd do you have? I was looking at the intels, don't feel like reinstalling win7, should cloning my drive to a new ssd do the trick?
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I'm sticking with XP
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All you need to know about ssd drives (31-page anandtech thesis):
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/sho...spx?i=3531&p=1 X25M Gen2 review: http://techreport.com/articles.x/17269/1 |
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To give you an idea of how fast the intel SSD is.
Left the office about 1.5 hours ago to the local pc store to pick up the SSD, got home and installed win 7. Moved all necessary user files and this thing is fast as FUCK. |
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Doesn't SSD drives have the limitations as flash memory? As in you can only write to a certain sector so many times (I believe it is around 1000)?
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Also extract portions of your registry you might want... Say you use Windows Live Writer for blog posting, copy that section of the registry to import later and keep your passwords and accounts. Same with Dreamweaver. Same with AOL should you still be using it. Same with Firefox... Then when you clean install you can copy the windows.old/user/[your account name]/appdata/[local and roaming]/Windows Live Writer/* etc... over and be right back where you were before starting the process... Also, the 64bit version is nice. You can go to http://www.crucial.com/index.aspx and pick up a couple extra gigs of ram for almost nothing. Get at least 6gigs and you will no longer use a paging file when switching between open and minimized windows. The speed difference in that alone is worth the upgrade. |
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We have a good joke here in Russia which fits for Vista vs Win7 case just perfect:
A rat asks a hamster: "Bro, we are almost the same rodents but why people are trying to kill and poison me while they caress, feed and love you?". The hamster fall to thinking for a moment when answered: "I believe it's because your PR-managers suck"
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Yesterday I was tying to setup an OpenVPN client on Win7 64-bit and found that it has exactly the same compatibility issues as Vista. I.e. you can read all those "how to make my OpenVPN client run under funking Vista?!" and be sure - they will be 100% applicable to Win7. You will even need to install Vista-compatible TAP driver on Win7 PC. What a surprise! ![]()
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"Even Intel?s MLC-based X25-M G2 drive is estimated to have a 31,500 cycle write endurance, which is good for 20GB of erase/write sequences a day, every day, for five years. If that?s not enough, the company has included a 100GB/day margin of error." Quite honestly for the price, I would pay $280 and replace them yearly because that's how noticeable the speed increase is. |
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I just find these HYSTERICAL as compared to their clique little commercials that tell bold faced lies about windows. lol |
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I use Windows ME and have yet to find an OS that outdoes it. |
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It is simply the bees knees. There is pretty much nothing else that you can do to upgrade your system that will improve it as much as this SSD drive. Things like this are pretty much why my main work box is a Win 7 PC. I love to tinker with the latest technology. I also own two Macs and they simply just don't come close to the newest PC technology, not even the Mac Pro. OS X is nice and all, but Apple hardware is always just too behind. |
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The way it handles its write endurance is that it will take something like an ini file or a cfg file of a program that gets written to every time the program is closed and move it around the drive. So that it doesn't continuously write to the same spot. Eventually this creates fragmentation issues. So your drive might be lickety-split right now and will be not so much in 4 or 5 years... BTW - The windows page file would be a good example of a file that will be written to every few seconds while you are actively using the operating system. At a few gigs in size it can really add up quickly and have to me moved constantly by the drive. |
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running win7 on ocz vertex. shit is fast and stable
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As for what happens in 4 or 5 years who cares. Things go obsolete so fast now I doubt I have anything older than 6 months in my computer case right now. Check out: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3607 etc. There is a lot of cool info on these drives there. |
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But ya SSD is night and day, going to test this bad boy out for a few weeks and start converting my machine at work to SSD. |
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the intel X25-E is going to be out in about a week. that is going to cost some money
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Updated. Just installed win 7 64bit ;) running smooth and fast
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thanks for the heads up on that one! intel pulled the firmware and i was getting ready to use it
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As for SSD, I guess a fragmented drive doesn't matter. The only reason it does on mechanical is because the head has to be physically moved over the platters. SSD drives just make light speed calls no matter what. |
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Thanks for the review!
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awesome os...and you can build a $500 windows PC thats 4 times faster than a $2000 mac
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Upgraded yesterday from Vista. Everything went great except one driver for an infrared remote control did not work. Got that going today. So far, it seems great.
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If you want a good reason to upgrade then consider these points about 64bit Win 7 compared to XP on the same hardware:
1. you can use more than 4GB of ram with 64bit Win 7 2. most programs will run faster if you have more than 4GB of ram in 64bit Win 7 due to having more memory available for each program 3. 32bit programs run faster in 64bit Win 7 than on 32bit XP 4. Win 7 is faster overall than Win XP. |
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If you want a good reason to upgrade then consider these points about Win XP 64bit compared to Win 7 32bit on the same hardware: 1. you can use more than 4GB of ram with Win XP 64bit 2. most programs will run faster if you have more than 4GB of ram in Win XP 64bit due to having more memory available for each program 3. 32bit programs run faster in 64bit Win 7 than on 32bit XP << Wrong for both Win 7 64bit and Win XP 64bit operating systems. It seems you have no clue how 32bit applications are running in 64bit environment and you even have no idea what thunking is, but I'm telling you that 32bit applications will work as fast as they can on 32bit operating systems ONLY. 4. Win XP is faster overall than Win 7 and there are lots of benchmarks in the Net that prove it. Furthermore, there are many benchmarks that says: Vista and Win 7 have almost the same speed,e.g.: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,2442.html : ![]() ![]() At some serious tasks Vista is even faster than Win 7: What a surprise! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So please don't even try to state that Win 7 is faster than Win XP. Sometimes it even slower than Vista which was sucking from its birthday and will suck forever. ![]()
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Win 7 seems a lot faster than Vista because they fixed the bottleneck where the GPU was divided amongst all windows rather than just active ones.
There is no doubt the GUI on Win 7 is much snappier. But for application benchmarks it's fundamentally the same. |
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Hmm... Have you got a chance to look at the benchmarks above?
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i got 2 vertexes 30gb in raid 0 ... i would reinstall whole windows if I was you, image would probably work but i'd still reinstall
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my 2 vertexes in raid 0 do 450mb/s read and around 300mb/s write, and access time is like 0.1sec, you click anything and it pops up right away... like right now I clicked photoshop cs4 and it opened up in 3 seconds, lighter programs are instant....
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I just love it!
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ce,2442-9.html
"To better gauge the user?s performance experience or how fast the system feels, load times must be captured. While we could certainly have used a stopwatch, an electronic timer is far more accurate, and benchmarks such as PCMark and SYSmark use them. These programs indicate that Windows 7 feels 7% to 10% faster than Windows Vista, and that?s enough to make us give the new OS the nod in spite of its lack of differentiation in most of our other test."
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W7 Rocks!
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its only you bro....works fine here
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thanks for the info. I'll get in my next computer.
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