Fiddy.
:pimp

Sig.

For those interested in backlinks spread over lots of ip's and class c's to help improve your search engine results, hit me up. I will show you tons of examples of how google indexes and ranks my sites using the same backlinks before you decide to buy.

NO ONE else will show you such detailed results BEFORE you buy their backlinks.

Also, you need at least 5 sites before you hit me up. There are plenty of link sellers in the sell and buy forum that will link your one site. I'm looking for more longterm clients.

Have a nice day,
~Ray

PR is simply the quantification of the value of inbound links to a page. no one said you "need" links from pages with pagerank to get "good seo results" - it takes either quantity.. or quality


you showed results where you were on the main page for non competitive phrases and your traffic also reflects that fact.. so again, we both define "good results" quite differently. i fail to see where the "good results" are. I think most here can agree that "good results" in SEO can be measured in ranking for competitive phrases, volume of traffic and sales. pornhub ranking 3 sites in the top 3 spots for all the most competitive phrases = "great results" - ranking a site for "teen sex" at number 1 = "good results" - having 500 - 1000 sites that all rank well for reasonably competitive phrases = "good results"

having a lot of shitty template pages that have nothing on it but 250 outbound links, collectively getting 7k hits a day to your important sites = "shitty results"

a link farm template that's 3 days old with nothing on it but 250 outbound links offers nothing of value to anyone. thats why seo guys aren't beating down your door to buy up everything they can. what you have (and are trying to sell) can be built in an afternoon by a retarded baboon, trained to copy/paste html and ftp the file to the server.


i understand you are busy trying to rob the naive and need to save face... but since you brought it up... acting like a rambling lunatic on ICQ, never answering a single direct question while using a bold, 18pt PURPLE font isn't exactly a shining example of "professional"

None of the sites I showed you that were indexed and ranked had any outgoing links. Those were my "A" sites. They all had incoming links and another domain (my "C" site) held the recips. A-B-C link trades.

You are confused again and trying to harm my business based on misinformation... even after the 30 minute conversation we had 8 days ago which ended with you saying...

Mark ‎(10/8/2009 9:42 AM):
yeah, once i have the links i want and i'm happy with where i'm at, i will start looking for more. i will definitely contact you.

~Ray

that was a nice way of telling you i wasn't interested. and now that i am reading it, a bit dishonest on my part since i had no intention of contacting you every again. its also something which i also said periodically throughout the conversation, which you kept ignoring, as you wouldn't explain in detail what exactly you were doing and where links where coming from and wouldn't answer any direct questions.

i was willing to just throw some money at it anyway just to see what you had to offer since it didn't cost anything... once i understood what you were doing, it was very clear it had next to zero value no matter how cheap it was.

you were offering to set it up for free just to "prove" yourself and i wasn't interested... i think that would have been a huge clue.

you just talk in circles like you do here. you show a bunch of rankings for phrases that aren't competitive at all and bring next to no traffic, to show you "get too SEO results"

anyway, nothing said here on on ICQ changes the fact that what you are doing can be duplicated in an afternoon by a 1/2 retarded 6th grader... and something that went out of style quite a few years ago - with the bulk of those links being unseen/not counted by google. that is a simple statement of fact.

Ray, this thread wasn't about your business, nor about someone trying to wreck it, and if you didn't insist on trying to turn these 'seo' threads into pissing matches about how good you are, this shit wouldn't happen.

Fact of the matter is I've seen way more plausible and FACTUAL seo information come out of PleasurePays mouth here then almost everyone else combined. I've never met him, don't know who he is or what he runs, but I know he has a clue just by his statements around this board.

Like you said yourself, there is many ways to achieve results, but yet you still talk shit to everyone else who has better results then you. At one point you should pay attention and try to feed some of that knowledge instead of telling them they are clueless.

He isn't clueless and neither are you nor I. If we were, we would all have 9 to 5 brick and mortar jobs.

I just wish I could find some of those retarded 6th graders he speaks of to build more all-in-one niche sites with rotating mgp's, tgp's, auto updating blogs, auto updating niche "tubes" , install the 20,000 page sitemaps, add and verify to google webmaster tools and get each site 250 one way index page backlinks spread over numerous ip's and class c's, all accepted by the trading webmaster and all without the need for recips.

It would make my life easier.

~Ray

Smoke and Mirrors. Google Algo's main component is Pagerank, there is no way they could throw it out the window without completely fucking their results. They should just stop showing it to people.

page rank is solely inbound links and the importance weighed on those links... that's it from what I understand. Has nothing to do with content, updates, relevancy, etc... everything that brings se hits to your site.

Now, if google would just die and allow bing and yahoo to dominate we would be in a much better internet world :)

Don't believe my statement... pick any keyword you can think of and put into google... then bing. Compare the results and tell me which one is better

Also... DMOZ can get the fuck outa here too :) they suck for results exponentially worse then google

Just because the keyword you are targeting come up in Bing or Yahoo doesn't make it a better search experience.

dont believe everything you read stupid :321GFY

i'm not saying me... I'm saying check any result. Notice all the youtube, aboutus, break, and other larger internet companies that are irrelevant?

It's new... started around June... I'm just suggesting pick a keyword and look at the top 20 for bing and google. Not just your own site that may rank well in google... the overall results.

They are different and it has been put into their algorithm to pay higher priority to companies they have a vested interest in...

Also DMOZ in theory is a good idea but is not working... it should be out the door.

anyone that looks at what you do and knows anything about seo and says "yeah, that makes great sense" should be shot in the face.

examples of how you sell links:

http://www.web-cams.net/
http://www.trannyblogs.net/
http://www.lawdy.com/
http://www.nudecelebrity-pages.org/
http://www.3apop.com/
http://www.ncn6.com/
http://www.picturemans.com/
http://ncn3.com/
http://www.ipednet.org/
http://www.pornchicks.org/

no one in this biz that understands ANYTHING about SEO is going to buy links from you. only newbies desperate for links will. those links have little to zero value even on sites/pages with a decent number of inbound links. its not even something that anyone who has their shit together would want their sites associated with.

the fact that you are having to hustle to sell links should tell you something. you're totally outside the circle.

and spreading shitty, single page link farms over multiple class c's or whatever else you think you are doing that's clever does nothing to hide the link profiles of these sites and does it change the fact that countless, shitty link farms are linked to countless shitty link farms. this is some of the most primitive spam attempts i've seen in recent years and shit that people stopped doing in 03/04 particularly after the florida update.



AND FOR THE RECORD... Google simply commented that they were going to stop updating the toolbar PR. Toolbar PR is not "PageRank". It's amazing that so few people even understand that simple fact. It doesn't mean something has changed in how they rank pages. Most likely they are trying to slow down SEOs from building networks and selling links.

and btw - i don't think your dumb. i think you're bordering on insane. i think you're delusional. probably just narcissism.. but it seems to be something much deeper.

For example:

search for "live girls"...

when someone searches for live girls what do they wanna see? youtube, books.google, amazon, wikipedia?? all on the first page of google.

Someone searching for live girls want to see live fuckin girls... now compare the top 20 in bing. wadda u think... which one has more relevant results??

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Another example for anybody who may be interested...

search "website blacklists"

google I can't find the service on the first page... bing it is the second hit...

over and over...

sorry for the thread fuck

Wow, holy fuck, ahahahahah.

Edit, I just doubled the backlinks, where's my $0.35.

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Icing on the cake baby.

http://www.idiomsbykids.com/taylor/m...The%20Cake.jpg

and yet all of the sites I backlinked are well indexed, show numerous incoming links and most rank for the keyword they were set up for. I even showed you the results. I mean, if my backlinks were shit. Then Google would have ignored them.

Here is a site I put online Aug 24th, I gave it backlinks (all at once) on the 26th.

Here is how google sees it as of today...(53 days)

2.625 pages indexed
1,024 links to my site
1 page missing
various ranks
in less than 2 months
http://www.advertisingsex.com/uunnkkdd.jpg

So your argument that my backlinks are no good is invalid. The weird thing is, I showed you over 50 examples and you still attack my business. How do my sites get indexed and ranked if the backlinks are garbage?

Maybe you should consider the fact that google likes aged domains and if you use multiple backlink packages/strategies, you would get the best results.

I tell people this is a bulk backlink offer. You can still get links to your sites anytime you want.. but, in the meantime, google will use my backlinks to find you, index you, revisit you numerous times daily and rank you. Google doesn't find all of the backlinks at once, so it gets better and better over time, ESPECIALLY if you keep working on getting more backlinks like everyone should always do.

I don't claim to get you ranked for top level keywords like "porn" or "sex", but I do GUARANTEE that google will find you, revisit you, index you and rank you. The rest is up to your bounce rate.

If I sold shit backlinks, none of my sites or my clients sites would be indexed or ranked.

I must have struck a nerve when I told you that you sat around for years watching your old seo network decline.. or maybe you are mad that you still have to buy backlinks after all this time???


Your new buddy,
~Ray

p.s. most of those links you posted are several years old.

Also, my bulk backlinks cost $3 per link per year. If you buy them to get ranked #1 for porn in google, they would not do the trick. But, if you are stuck in the ranks and can't seem to move up, they will and have helped several sites over the hump.

It reminds me of the old thunderball vs. linkex debate. The census seemed to agree that using both makes the most sense.

Use bulk backlinks with your current seo strategy for the best results.

~Ray

lol those are some seriously shitty terms, anyone could get #1 for those without even trying.

the discussion was whether or not google would find the backlinks I get for sites. I'm not going to show anything that I can't afford to lose here. The snapshot shows the pages found by google and the amount of pages indexed. Clear results that google find my backlinks just fine.

Nice to see you. How's Nick's dick still taste after all of these years? Are you still his Roomba?

~Ray

I was sick of trying to catch up with that stupid number. All i care about now is Alexa :)

That will make the difference. You win.

you can get sites indexed as easily as someone with a google toolbar visiting the page without even having any incoming links, your shitty link farms are garbage no matter how you want to sugar coat it.

so how much are your links ray? i might buy some of them just to fuck up someones rankings and get their site penalized

only outgoing links can hurt you. nice job learning little to nothing over the years.

~Ray

my 250 link package shows over 1,000 backlinks so far just to that one site... and googlebot has revisited enough to get over 2,100 pages indexed. Partner that up with your current SEO strategies and it will improve your ranks.

...and the backlinks grow every month.

I don't care if you like me or not, the proof is in the pudding. (don't get excited, there is no pudding.)


~Ray