If you're not a current submitter, how can you say it's one of the best deals?

I agree, times are changing, some people can adapt as they wish, but prices for advertising should be a fair price as well.

Separating gallery submits and tube submits is a good idea in my opinion. I'd rather pay half of a submit price if I can only utilize half of the traffic. Look at Library of Thumbs... 2 different submits... movies and pics. Keeps things simple for submitters and profitable for the site owner.

:thumbsup

Bump for some more exposure

Bump???? :)

Thanks for the bump Michel, nice to see you here! ;) :thumbsup

I haven't tried it, but I bet it boils down to finding the niche that sells through this pass.

The only thing that sells well on youngpornmovies is 18 y.o. teens. But how are you gonna sell something when you don't get any exposure? I got like 10k visits from YPM the month after they changed their layout, and this I am paying $100 for? I do get some occasional signups from the other sites in the network but it's not defending the current prize of this pass.

You're welcome Matyko :)

Bump to the top

Five days passed since started this thread, but I can't say there was any progression. So I keep bumping this thread until some Results or until I consider it makes no sense to negotiate about the topic.

I posted my opinion in the form of a review:
http://submitpassreviews.com/submit-...t-pass-review/

I hope I can add happy news soon, but atm I doubt Titan crew is willing to cooperate or negotiate.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

bump, bump!

i don't get it man. it's not like you're haggling over some counterfeit gucci handbags in some eastern european black market, if you don't think it's a good value, then don't buy it.

if he has to adjust his product and prices due to the drop in demand, so be it.

So you say its OK to let them continue to do bad business practices and just move on? No, thanks.

BUMP!

Guess no one really cares...

Quite sad. :helpme

bump for you matyko:thumbsup

Back to the top

Still looking for something from the TrafficTitan crew.

Maybe if you put this much effort into making money, you'd make more and wouldn't have to bitch about a pass that can easily make you the money back.

Bumped :)

No need to worry for me making money, I have no problems with spending this 5 minute a day on bumping this thread to inform other submitters about this unfair deal. The more submit pass buyers cancel [or ask for a refund what they are willing to give [admitting this is a bad deal now]] the more chance they are willing to change on their current system.

I also think that the big baller - program owner - serious network owner Titan Crew should not fuck with the small people. :2 cents:

Anyway, thanks for bumping my thread. :upsidedow

Titan, just FYI: I will keep bumping this thread happily for a year if you wish, you might think I am a fucktard but until I feel you keep doing unfair business I am not willing to stop.

Just for a good example: PicHunter is giving away their submit passes for FREE [earlier they charged a one time application fee, and that was all]:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/933002-pichunter-com-gallery-submission-accounts.html

Huggles: are you submitting galleries to their network At The Moment? No. Your information is outdated, and you should keep your mouth shut. :2 cents: Most likely you are an affiliate of their program or you are some other kind of business partner of them, and thats the reason you are defending them like crazy. :Oh crap

Dude I have been fucked by traffic brokers so many times, and lost money on many submit passes.


I didn't whine, I focused on what DID make me money. You know, there are people that I know who are making 1k+ on the Traffic Titan pass per month, but they specifically target certain niches with certain solo girls and themes.

It's not Titan's fault you have no fucking clue what to market and how to market on his sites. In the meantime, I'll continue to make bank on his sites for my $100 / month.

Your jealousy disgusts me.


Titan is one of the few big site owners who is polite and approachable both on ICQ and in person. Plus he isn't fat and doesn't smell.


I had no idea hungarians were such whiney bitches.

How much did they make a couple of months ago when YPM still sent traffic to galleries?

Most of the reason people are not getting as much is due to technical errors we are working to correct. If you don't like it don't buy it. I looked over the stats and less than half the people are even submitting to ypm!!! I was kind of under the impression that gallery submitters and tube submitters were basically the same people. In my opinion tube submitting is easier. You go grab a clip from a sponsor. You make a description and click submit. You don't even need to upload to my site we have a fetch utility. Lots easier than splitting up clips, making thumbs, making a layout. It doesn't even cost you bandwidth! I know guys who make big bank doing this. I have several new sites on the way. We are continually advancing and expanding. Tube submitting is a natural progression of gallery submitting. I really only sell the partner accounts as a courtesy to webmasters. I could fill the site with hosted galleries and whatnot and it wouldn't make too much difference but I feel obligated to help out the long time submitters.

I know exactly what you are talking about, and I feel you misunderstand me: I am not whining because of it doesn't work for me and never worked. I am whining because it was a value for the money and the owners just changed conditions w/o letting anyone know in advance. This pass lost its value, almost completely. :(

As I stated above, I made nice money on this pass, and was always happy with it. I would love to know what your friends think about the changes, if they really made 1k+ from this pass, the most of it was from YoungPornMovies for sure, and they Must feel the difference now...

One last thing, on first page you said:

So what is happening, you suddenly started to submit again and have up-to-date stats/results?

What makes you think I am jealous? :) I don't know Titan personally, and I have no doubts he doesn't smell and that he is not fat :) Please, with sugar on the top, check the first post in this thread again. I just wanted to ask for the opinion of other submitters of Titan. There was no sign of anyone with positive things to say [check Shemp's Place @ MP (place of gallery submitters) -> w/o exception all the submitters stated this pass lost most of its value with this change], except for you, but your information is outdated, and you mention your mysterious 'friends', who haven't posted nothing in this thread and nobody knows if they are happy about this submit pass in general or they are happy after YPM is sending much lower traffic to the galleries there [if we relate to the past]...

Its a bit offtopic, but I can confirm hungarians are like this, moreover we are the biggest whiners on the Planet, it has historical reasons and I know its bad. I always wanted to leave this place, but my gf and our daughter wants to stay and we are a democratic family :)

A last thing for you Huggles: I apologize again for my attitude [as i did via ICQ after you first mentined my attitude (you haven't answered..)], I am very unhappy this thread went so far. I am not here to make enemies, and if I read back what I wrote it makes me think it wasn't me. So I suggest to stop at this point, as you and others adviced: I already did what I was capable of, it seems things won't change, so I just move forward.

I hope if you answer in any way it will reflect my last paragraph.

Titan, thanks for the positive attitude. I would love to know how many cancelled buying the pass since the change.

There's a huge difference between gallery submitting and clip uploading. As a gallery submitter I can tell you why I love it: I can do all the marketing, texts, links, content selection, the way I crop the thumbs and the sample thumbnails... Uploading a clip with a sponsor link attached requires no skills, thus the result does not depend on the submitter at all... However I admit what you say can be true: much less work for sure, and maybe in big quantities it can be a nice money maker. Will try this for sure, however will submit to tubes only which accept the content for free.

The fact that half of the people still submit to ypm is crazy, but I am sure they just hope it will have any benefit for them. Feel free to make a survey about all this case, you have all the email addresses of your submitters, nothing wrong can happen if you do so. :2 cents:

If you really sell partner accounts as a courtesy, than why are you asking money for it? If you would just like to get rid of the cheaters, a significant price would be enough. But believe me, if you check the thread @ MP I mentioned above you will see I am not an isolated case: excellent veteran submitters who know their shit can't make the money back anymore...

I am not looking forward for answers from anyone anymore. I am disappointed, but will move forward. If there will be a conversation here, I will participate, but I won't bump it anymore, it makes no sense. :(

god just don't buy the pass already, jesus ....

At least you got one nice listing today.... free! ;)

Thehun.net is not the only bookmark you need. It's long been passed by Pornhub, Redtube.

Thanks, I noticed, very nice from you :thumbsup :upsidedow :thumbsup

In fact it was thehunbot who put you there :)

he gave the double thumbs up for the gallery as well? ;)

She must really like you :)

not worth it like most (if not all) movie submit passes.

What I don't get is why do they keep their prices intact if their traffic is actually HALF of what they had in 2005... They keep the same prices of 2005... Make sno sense.

Also conversions are worse than ever, and if you MATYKO are a submitter, you will probably know this.

It's definately not right.. it's like that with all the passes at submitpasses.com. They would make more money if they sold to a price where submitters would actually earn something from the pass and not just cancel after one month of trial.