If you are 15 and have pics of naked 15 years olds... - GoFuckYourself.com

96ukssob · 10-01-2009, 07:45 PM

There was just a commercial for the 11pm news about a 15 year old that could be facing felony charges for having pictures of other naked 15 year old and they are saying its "child porn"

Its this big "sexting" bust that is trying to go on, but really? With almost every 13 year old having a cell phone with a camera, this seems like its going to be a larger and larger problem. Kids getting "child porn" charges against them before they are 18 because their gf sends them a naked pic thru txt messaging?

Not sure how I stand on this, I can see parents trying to blame mobile providers. I know if I was 15 now a days, I would be trying to get girls to send me pics all the time

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 07:47 PM

so what's the age cutoff for kiddie pr0n?

GatorB · 10-01-2009, 07:49 PM

If a 15 year old webcams himself jacking off and he is the only one that views it and possesses the video is he in possession of CP? According to these laws he might be. And of course taking that logic to the next level, by jacking himself off he's committing child molestation

GatorB · 10-01-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so what's the age cutoff for kiddie pr0n?

I believe that would be 18

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I believe that would be 18

so anyone under 18 can have and distribute nudie pics of kids?

cyber_ninja · 10-01-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

If a 15 year old webcams himself jacking off and he is the only one that views it and possesses the video is he in possession of CP? According to these laws he might be. And of course taking that logic to the next level, by jacking himself off he's committing child molestation

that would suck to get busted for molesting yourself

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-01-2009, 07:53 PM

i molest myself daily. but i am over 18. so does that make it just rape? and me a rapist? it's consensual, i swear!

96ukssob · 10-01-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so what's the age cutoff for kiddie pr0n?

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I believe that would be 18

Yeah but what happens when your 16 and get some naked pics of your high school gf. two year later you go to college and your 18, get pulled over for smoking a bowl while passing a cop on the wrong side of the road. they search your car and find your phone and the pictures. now you have underage girls naked on your phone... child porn!

Personally, I believe the cut off should be 18, just as it is for producing content. but its going to become a bigger and bigger issue

GatorB · 10-01-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so anyone under 18 can have and distribute nudie pics of kids?

No wiseass. No one of ANY age can have pics of anyone under 18 being naked or having sex. I think that would be common sense.

Iron Fist · 10-01-2009, 07:57 PM

Where's pedobear?

d-null · 10-01-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

i molest myself daily. but i am over 18. so does that make it just rape? and me a rapist? it's consensual, i swear!

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No wiseass. No one of ANY age can have pics of anyone under 18 being naked or having sex. I think that would be common sense.

relax man.

i am participating in the debate and asked a valid question.

moreover, i wasn't asking you.

GatorB · 10-01-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

relax man.

i am participating in the debate and asked a valid question.

moreover, i wasn't asking you.

No you asked a stupid question.

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

No you asked a stupid question.

no, it's a rhetorical question.

and this thread isn't about me, try and stay focused. i know it's tough, with your agenda to be a fuckwad and all, but do try.

10-01-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

no, it's a rhetorical question.

and this thread isn't about me, try and stay focused. i know it's tough, with your agenda to be a fuckwad and all, but do try.

You have to type it very slow so GatorB can understand. His reading comprehension is about as good as a speck of dirt's.

d-null · 10-01-2009, 08:15 PM

heard them talking on the radio about Brooke Shields and thinking how the world has changed so much in the last 30 years

marketsmart · 10-01-2009, 08:17 PM

there is a big debate going on right now about minors posting content of minors...

this is going to be very interesting to watch...

with all the content being posted via cell phones and social networking sites, as a legal adult, i would be very careful about what you view online and what ends up on your hard drive..

d-null · 10-01-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

there is a big debate going on right now about minors posting content of minors...

this is going to be very interesting to watch...

with all the content being posted via cell phones and social networking sites, as a legal adult, i would be very careful about what you view online and what ends up on your hard drive..

good point, an image that is accidentally viewed on a webpage ends up being cached on your hard drive, and makes you technically in possession of every image that casually passed by on your screen as you were surfing the web

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

You have to type it very slow so GatorB can understand. His reading comprehension is about as good as a speck of dirt's.

well, to be fair, i think he looks for opportunities to be a fuckwad to people and gets distracted by that and can't see what's reality.

so back to the topic, the op's concern was about young kids having pornagraphic pictures of other young kids, and my comment was directed to that.

what's the cut off? sure, as a teen, i had polaroids of a girlfriend or 2 naked, i didn't thin anything of it. it was a turn on. they were consentual, but we were all underage.

so my rhetorical question of what's the age cutoff was more an attempt to create dialogue.

it's a sticky topic and i get that.

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

heard them talking on the radio about Brooke Shields and thinking how the world has changed so much in the last 30 years

yah, i read they removed the nude pics of her from the museum exhibit. she was 10 when they were shot.

d-null · 10-01-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yah, i read they removed the nude pics of her from the museum exhibit. she was 10 when they were shot.

yeah, and they mentioned on the radio that the photo was shot for a special edition by Playboy at the time called Sugar and Spice

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

yeah, and they mentioned on the radio that the photo was shot for a special edition by Playboy at the time called Sugar and Spice

no way!

crazy. oh, and i remember those special editions, they were good.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 10-01-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

heard them talking on the radio about Brooke Shields and thinking how the world has changed so much in the last 30 years

Haha, I keep forgetting that playboy printed nude pictures of an oily sexed up 10 year old Brooke Shields

Kard63 · 10-01-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so anyone under 18 can have and distribute nudie pics of kids?

I dont think so. I think they get charged with a lesser crime.

Jarmusch · 10-01-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

Not sure how I stand on this, I can see parents trying to blame mobile providers.

That's just ridiculous, why not blame the parents for getting their kids cellphones with cameras instead? There are cellphones without cameras out there, you know.

After Shock Media · 10-01-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yah, i read they removed the nude pics of her from the museum exhibit. she was 10 when they were shot.

You can still rent the movie pretty baby. She is also nude and underage in a movie based around sex.

And yes it is tricky.

If someone sent you kiddy porn (even another minor) you should be OK, unless you collect it, request it, etc.
If you then send it to someone else you would be distributing kiddy porn.
If you shot a pic of yourself, well that should be null.
If you send that to someone else you are distributing kiddy porn.

Just my views. Also no I do not blame technology. Kids could of done it with a polaroid or other medium in the past. They just need to be brought up to speed that the world does not revolve around them.

dyna mo · 10-01-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

You can still rent the movie pretty baby. She is also nude and underage in a movie based around sex.

And yes it is tricky.

If someone sent you kiddy porn (even another minor) you should be OK, unless you collect it, request it, etc.
If you then send it to someone else you would be distributing kiddy porn.
If you shot a pic of yourself, well that should be null.
If you send that to someone else you are distributing kiddy porn.

Just my views. Also no I do not blame technology. Kids could of done it with a polaroid or other medium in the past. They just need to be brought up to speed that the world does not revolve around them.

yup, i shot my fair share of polarudes as a teen. was thinking about that the other day, some hot pics too!

kane · 10-01-2009, 09:08 PM

It is a slippery slope. If you are a 15 year old guy and your 15 year old girlfriend gets naked for you, no problem. But if she sends you a naked picture of herself, now it is illegal. Obviously you don't want naked pictures of kids floating around out there, but to charge kids as sex offenders and potentially fuck up their lives because they were/are young and dumb is pretty stupid too.

After Shock Media · 10-01-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

It is a slippery slope. If you are a 15 year old guy and your 15 year old girlfriend gets naked for you, no problem. But if she sends you a naked picture of herself, now it is illegal. Obviously you don't want naked pictures of kids floating around out there, but to charge kids as sex offenders and potentially fuck up their lives because they were/are young and dumb is pretty stupid too.

When was it ever legal?

Yes perhaps we need a new title for them, but they are breaking the laws and not any new laws either.

kane · 10-01-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

When was it ever legal?

Yes perhaps we need a new title for them, but they are breaking the laws and not any new laws either.

I guess I wrote it incorrectly. I mean if you are 15 and your 15 year old girlfriend sends you nude pics of herself it is illegal (not meaning it was in the past).

Jakez · 10-01-2009, 09:25 PM

lol never really thought about this, wow that's going to be or probably is a huge problem.

brassmonkey · 10-01-2009, 09:25 PM

well i guess i molested myself quite a few times

H-Tom · 10-01-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Where's pedobear?

15yo is:

rowan · 10-01-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

there is a big debate going on right now about minors posting content of minors...

this is going to be very interesting to watch...

with all the content being posted via cell phones and social networking sites, as a legal adult, i would be very careful about what you view online and what ends up on your hard drive..

So who here promotes ex g/f sites? You're probably already looking at (and publishing/linking to?) underage girls.

TheLegacy · 10-02-2009, 05:51 AM

Don't care -15 yr's old is still 15 and they should be learning other things then get involved with sex. There is a reason why the law states that, and just because another person the same age has pictures or not - it's still way to young to be getting involved in sex. The girl who had the pictures taken did not realize nor have the ability to realize what she was doing and that the pictures were wrong. This is also how boys learn to mistreat women and see girls as only sex objects. Sure at that age we all have desires and "love" - but it's immature and can lead to future problems if not handled correctly.

Libertine · 10-02-2009, 07:48 AM

They should change rules on possession. Possession of non-commercial solo pictures featuring 14-18 year olds (= camwhore pics) should not be illegal. Just distribution and commercial exploitation of them.

If a teen girl shows herself naked online, she's a moron, but she's most likely not the victim of abuse. Those who see it have a pretty good chance of not even knowing that she is underage, so prosecuting them is utterly asinine.

If you disagree with this, keep in mind that chances of you unknowingly having come across pictures like that are roughly 100%. Dating ads, "hot camgirl" threads on forums, etc. - they all regularly contain girls under 18.

"Protecting" teens from consensual sex and sex-related activities is utterly idiotic. It hasn't worked in the past, it isn't working now, and it will never work. Unless you monitor them 24/7, teens in the 14-18 age range will experiment with sex. There is no way to stop that, they're biologically wired that way.

The only thing locking them up for it will achieve is ruining their lives - something only the stupidest bible thumpers could want.

Want to protect teens? Educate them and tackle actual abuse. Protect them from predators, instead of trying to protect them from normal natural impulses.

Phoenix · 10-02-2009, 07:50 AM

they shouldnt be involved in sexual things of course...but they will be

so..if they are posting it online..they deserve to be slapped somehow...but not with cp

15 yr olds have a right to other 15 yr olds

Phoenix · 10-02-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

They should change rules on possession. Possession of non-commercial solo pictures featuring 14-18 year olds (= camwhore pics) should not be illegal. Just distribution and commercial exploitation of them.

If a teen girl shows herself naked online, she's a moron, but she's most likely not the victim of abuse. Those who see it have a pretty good chance of not even knowing that she is underage, so prosecuting them is utterly asinine.

If you disagree with this, keep in mind that chances of you unknowingly having come across pictures like that are roughly 100%. Dating ads, "hot camgirl" threads on forums, etc. - they all regularly contain girls under 18.

"Protecting" teens from consensual sex and sex-related activities is utterly idiotic. It hasn't worked in the past, it isn't working now, and it will never work. Unless you monitor them 24/7, teens in the 14-18 age range will experiment with sex. There is no way to stop that, they're biologically wired that way.

The only thing locking them up for it will achieve is ruining their lives - something only the stupidest bible thumpers could want.

Want to protect teens? Educate them and tackle actual abuse. Protect them from predators, instead of trying to protect them from normal natural impulses.

ini 100 years when america catches up to most euro countries we should see things this way

rowan · 10-02-2009, 11:39 AM

There's another issue which hasn't been brought up in this thread: as well as being charged with possession of CP, they may also be required to register [for life] as a sex offender. Now THAT is definitely going over the top when it's simply a 15yo girl sending a naked pic to her b/f.

Fob · 10-02-2009, 11:52 AM

They should just drop the whole kp laws. Because they make it illegal, more ppl want it.

Don't kids these days have sex when they are 14-15 years old anyway. Sex is ok, pictures are not....hrm....

Libertine · 10-03-2009, 09:13 AM

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ini 100 years when america catches up to most euro countries we should see things this way

Unlikely. Europe is actually following America's lead on this one. Hype beats common sense when it comes to this issue.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2009, 09:18 AM

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10-01-2009, 07:45 PM	#1
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	If you are 15 and have pics of naked 15 years olds... There was just a commercial for the 11pm news about a 15 year old that could be facing felony charges for having pictures of other naked 15 year old and they are saying its "child porn" Its this big "sexting" bust that is trying to go on, but really? With almost every 13 year old having a cell phone with a camera, this seems like its going to be a larger and larger problem. Kids getting "child porn" charges against them before they are 18 because their gf sends them a naked pic thru txt messaging? Not sure how I stand on this, I can see parents trying to blame mobile providers. I know if I was 15 now a days, I would be trying to get girls to send me pics all the time __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

10-01-2009, 07:57 PM	#10
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Where's pedobear? __________________ i like waffles

10-01-2009, 09:25 PM	#31
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	lol never really thought about this, wow that's going to be or probably is a huge problem. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati

10-01-2009, 09:25 PM	#32
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,171	well i guess i molested myself quite a few times __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

10-02-2009, 05:51 AM	#35
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 16,801	Don't care -15 yr's old is still 15 and they should be learning other things then get involved with sex. There is a reason why the law states that, and just because another person the same age has pictures or not - it's still way to young to be getting involved in sex. The girl who had the pictures taken did not realize nor have the ability to realize what she was doing and that the pictures were wrong. This is also how boys learn to mistreat women and see girls as only sex objects. Sure at that age we all have desires and "love" - but it's immature and can lead to future problems if not handled correctly. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

10-01-2009, 07:47 PM	#2
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,899	so what's the age cutoff for kiddie pr0n?

10-01-2009, 07:49 PM	#3
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	If a 15 year old webcams himself jacking off and he is the only one that views it and possesses the video is he in possession of CP? According to these laws he might be. And of course taking that logic to the next level, by jacking himself off he's committing child molestation

10-01-2009, 07:53 PM	#7
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i molest myself daily. but i am over 18. so does that make it just rape? and me a rapist? it's consensual, i swear!

10-01-2009, 08:15 PM	#16
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	heard them talking on the radio about Brooke Shields and thinking how the world has changed so much in the last 30 years

10-01-2009, 08:17 PM	#17
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	there is a big debate going on right now about minors posting content of minors... this is going to be very interesting to watch... with all the content being posted via cell phones and social networking sites, as a legal adult, i would be very careful about what you view online and what ends up on your hard drive..

10-01-2009, 09:08 PM	#28
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It is a slippery slope. If you are a 15 year old guy and your 15 year old girlfriend gets naked for you, no problem. But if she sends you a naked picture of herself, now it is illegal. Obviously you don't want naked pictures of kids floating around out there, but to charge kids as sex offenders and potentially fuck up their lives because they were/are young and dumb is pretty stupid too.

10-02-2009, 07:48 AM	#36
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	They should change rules on possession. Possession of non-commercial solo pictures featuring 14-18 year olds (= camwhore pics) should not be illegal. Just distribution and commercial exploitation of them. If a teen girl shows herself naked online, she's a moron, but she's most likely not the victim of abuse. Those who see it have a pretty good chance of not even knowing that she is underage, so prosecuting them is utterly asinine. If you disagree with this, keep in mind that chances of you unknowingly having come across pictures like that are roughly 100%. Dating ads, "hot camgirl" threads on forums, etc. - they all regularly contain girls under 18. "Protecting" teens from consensual sex and sex-related activities is utterly idiotic. It hasn't worked in the past, it isn't working now, and it will never work. Unless you monitor them 24/7, teens in the 14-18 age range will experiment with sex. There is no way to stop that, they're biologically wired that way. The only thing locking them up for it will achieve is ruining their lives - something only the stupidest bible thumpers could want. Want to protect teens? Educate them and tackle actual abuse. Protect them from predators, instead of trying to protect them from normal natural impulses. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

10-02-2009, 07:50 AM	#37
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	they shouldnt be involved in sexual things of course...but they will be so..if they are posting it online..they deserve to be slapped somehow...but not with cp 15 yr olds have a right to other 15 yr olds __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

10-02-2009, 11:39 AM	#39
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	There's another issue which hasn't been brought up in this thread: as well as being charged with possession of CP, they may also be required to register [for life] as a sex offender. Now THAT is definitely going over the top when it's simply a 15yo girl sending a naked pic to her b/f.

10-02-2009, 11:52 AM	#40
Fob Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 520	They should just drop the whole kp laws. Because they make it illegal, more ppl want it. Don't kids these days have sex when they are 14-15 years old anyway. Sex is ok, pictures are not....hrm.... __________________ Asian Camgirls \| Filipina Cam Sponsor \| Jap Cam Sponsor \| Asian Cam Sponsor

10-03-2009, 09:18 AM	#42
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