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Old 12-10-2002, 07:01 PM   #1
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Cheater of the Century Award

Long version is here: http://galleryspots.com/cheats/

***Link removed based on request becaues of address and phone number.***

Short version is here:
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=607246

If you are one of his victims I listed, I apoligize in advance if it embaresses you.
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:03 PM   #2
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Sweet.
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:04 PM   #3
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Thanks Choker

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Old 12-10-2002, 07:06 PM   #4
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Excellent work...
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:06 PM   #5
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fuck yeah. Expose the fucking scum!!!
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:08 PM   #6
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now that's how you do it.

nice!
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:09 PM   #7
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Great movie!
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:16 PM   #8
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Heres what really happened

http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=607470

I suggest you see this film as well.....
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:18 PM   #9
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Heres what really happened

http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=607470

I suggest you see this film as well.....
Maybe I do like the cock, but what's your problem with me dude??????????????????
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:19 PM   #10
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Maybe I do like the cock, but what's your problem with me dude??????????????????
i was totally joking with you man!
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:20 PM   #11
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wow this guy lives close to me! (40 minutes) cant believe he owes some people in excess of 22000.... wow!

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Old 12-10-2002, 07:21 PM   #12
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oh ok no worries dude, I liked the movie anyway.

Actually I just found this movie site. I think it will become my kids new favorite website. That's a very cool concept for a website.
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:25 PM   #13
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Hey choker how much does this guy owe you....& where does he live?
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:31 PM   #14
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That movie site rock !
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:34 PM   #15
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Hey choker how much does this guy owe you....& where does he live?
GOLDMAN, STEVE


< From Eric >

Basic Rules of GFY

3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack people personally, stick to the issues. Also don't post links to illegal sites.

< From Eric >

He doesn't owe me any money. But he owes enough of the guys in my programs to make it my business. Plus he banned me from his nerd board because I ignored him on icq. LOL
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:36 PM   #16
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GOLDMAN, STEVE
< From Eric >

Basic Rules of GFY

3. Anything goes, except do not post people's personal information, or attack people personally, stick to the issues. Also don't post links to illegal sites.

< From Eric >

He doesn't owe me any money. But he owes enough of the guys in my programs to make it my business. Plus he banned me from his nerd board because I ignored him on icq. LOL

hahah its the VILLAGE guy?

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Old 12-10-2002, 07:36 PM   #17
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Choker bro, great job, if you had a few hours I could add to this saga, Stevie boy had a partner in some of this named Jack, he's another slime scumbag, I had some bad dealings with them myself that go way back several years
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:40 PM   #18
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do you have anymore pages like that on known cheaters? has good detail of what programs to avoid
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:47 PM   #19
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Steve Goldman got my company for Approx. $7500.00 back in maybe 1998.

We went after him and actually got him to show up at our Canadian attorneys offices.

He is a liar, a cheat and a thief.
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:50 PM   #20
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That is the best cheater information page i've ever seen. Awesome.
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Old 12-10-2002, 07:55 PM   #21
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Steve Goldman got my company for Approx. $7500.00 back in maybe 1998.

We went after him and actually got him to show up at our Canadian attorneys offices.

He is a liar, a cheat and a thief.
Mojo if you post it on that thread listed on the page I will add it to the page. I don't want to post the url here as Lens may not like me posting my BBS url here, even though my shitty little board is no competiton for him, I only made it for my programs and stuff, not to become a BBS for profit.

And yes I am having a script wrote that will have info like this on cheaters, searchable , etc
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Old 12-10-2002, 08:04 PM   #22
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I almost sent this guy $1500 a few weeks back, but after speaking with him on the phone i knew there was something i didnt trust about this fucker...now looking back im glad i didnt pay him
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:09 PM   #23
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I think Steve is a real shithead. Lowlifes like him ruin the business for the rest of us!

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Old 12-10-2002, 10:17 PM   #24
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Dam...I didnt realize the amount this guy ripped people off.My measly 80 bucks means shit compared to these poor guys...Great job Choker.Kudos to Choker for taking the time and effort for doing this.
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:39 PM   #25
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Heres what really happened

http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=607470

I suggest you see this film as well.....
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:43 PM   #26
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Heres what really happened

http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=607470

I suggest you see this film as well.....

Yep Pro busted me. Ron Jeremy mmmmmmmmmmmm
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:44 PM   #27
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Atleast it wasn't Fat Bastard.
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:46 PM   #28
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We almost did business with this about a year ago. We called off the deal when he wouldn't come to our office to talk. He would only meet one of us at Tim Hortons of all places. The guy gave off a bad vibe.
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:49 PM   #29
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Choker, very nice... though I'd like to see a longer description of what some of those bigger claims are... specifics aren't needed.. but anything.. just to have a bit more validity... that's all.

Cheers,
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Yep Pro busted me. Ron Jeremy mmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh come on, i couldn't help myself
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Old 12-10-2002, 11:05 PM   #31
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Hell, I think this guy practiced on me like back in 97

I got introduced to him thru a friend in the Thumblords, and he never paid me one dime for exit traffic. I used to be amazed whenever he crawled out from under a rock, but he's got more lives than a bag of cats.

He'll be back, and he'll fuck more people. That is what he does.
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Choker, very nice... though I'd like to see a longer description of what some of those bigger claims are... specifics aren't needed.. but anything.. just to have a bit more validity... that's all.

Cheers,
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These claims were gathered from posts made on several of the big BBS boards. Thing is now that there is more than enough evidence here for even Steve's cronies to see he is a cheat. Stage 2 will be the exposure of all the people Steve has current business dealings with and or partnerships with. Funny how I have gotten SO many icqs from guys who have been ripped off by this guy who do not have the balls to post about it. People who get ripped off and do nothing about it just invite more cheaters like Steve Goldman into this business. Grow a spine or else go flip burgers.
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Now I'm getting pressured by some Steve Goldman cronies to remove this page from my server:

http://galleryspots.com/cheats/

***Link removed based on request becaues of address and phone number.***

Well FUCK YOU. It's not going anywhere. It will be updated on a regular basis. Already 3 new additions to it today. And don't even tell me you are going to get a lawyer and blah blah blah. I already consulted with 3 of them, I am excersising my right to free speech so fuck off and die. You really think any judge would even hear a case of one smut peddlar defacing another, especially one that has ripped off so many other webmasters like you have Steve Goldman? Whatever.
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Old 12-11-2002, 12:58 AM   #34
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wow i remember this stupid fuck. I had a conflict with him at AWI some time ago when he was promising a lot of $ to webmasters by linking to his findwhat gateway with the excuse he wanted to increase his alexa ranking. What he was doing was driving tgp traffic to expensive PPC mainstream keywords and getting the 50% from findwhat. I'm sure he didn't pay anyone from AWI.

I'm going to contact findwhat and let them know that this guy is a scammer. I remember 12clicks had a conflict with him too and he's word on ppc engines is great than mine. He should drop them an email or a call too.

wow the bastard owes $23k to JJJ!
$18k to Batman and $19k to Tero, these are large sum of money

good work Choker
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oh i just saw Mojo's post. This obviously confirms the whole story.
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Choker,

I too am owed a significant amount of money from trafalgarmarketing.com

3 months worth of traffic sent.


I was around with JJJ and Lisa (Thumblords) and a few other of my friends got burned by Steve Goldman under keelebayltd.com but I had no idea that he was affiliated with trafalgarmarketing.com


I tell you what, six months ago a LOT of people were recommending trafalgarmarketing on AWI.
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I never realized this is the same guy that had keelebayltd, he has been doing this for quite awhile I would say.

I first heard about keelebayltd several years ago, and it was a scam operation from what I heard then. Am glad I took the time to read this thread before actually entering into an arrangement with this guy.

Thank you Choker
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Choker,

I too am owed a significant amount of money from trafalgarmarketing.com

3 months worth of traffic sent.


I was around with JJJ and Lisa (Thumblords) and a few other of my friends got burned by Steve Goldman under keelebayltd.com but I had no idea that he was affiliated with trafalgarmarketing.com


I tell you what, six months ago a LOT of people were recommending trafalgarmarketing on AWI.
How much does he owe you and what was it for? I will add it to this page http://galleryspots.com/cheats/

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Kudos to you for having the guts to post about it


Most guys "don't want to cause any problems" LOL . If enough guys would step up and tell the truth about this guy, then he can be shut down once and for all.
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Old 12-11-2002, 01:23 AM   #39
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What a god damn scammer.
Ive heard a few things around the way, but had no idea he owes so much to so many!

We need an Adult Webmaster Mafia to put a hit out on his ass.
Ill dig around for more info on this fool as well...

Cheaters must be squashed like the cockroaches they are
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I was around with JJJ and Lisa (Thumblords) and a few other of my friends got burned by Steve Goldman under keelebayltd.com but I had no idea that he was affiliated with trafalgarmarketing.com


I tell you what, six months ago a LOT of people were recommending trafalgarmarketing on AWI.
when I first came to AWI a couple years ago, he was the hot topic there, all of it bad. I can't believe that I was actually sticking up for him in an attack against him at his new board.

Of course, now it becomes perfectly clear why that venture seems to be self-destructing.
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how timely, no sooner than I finish with this thread than I am ICQ'd by someone telling me about a thread at AWV where Steve announces he is quitting the business. Too much strain on his heart or something.

I have to think, isn't this his pattern? Run scam, get exposed, close up shop. Rinse and repeat.

I would say we can expect his return in another 6 months under a new scam
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how timely, no sooner than I finish with this thread than I am ICQ'd by someone telling me about a thread at AWV where Steve announces he is quitting the business. Too much strain on his heart or something.

I have to think, isn't this his pattern? Run scam, get exposed, close up shop. Rinse and repeat.

I would say we can expect his return in another 6 months under a new scam
good point. If he ran off with that much money, i'm sure he will be back again. Profitable scaming is hard to let go of. Someone needs to teach him a lesson.
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oh i just saw Mojo's post. This obviously confirms the whole story.

No doubt about it I'm afraid. A few extra $k in legal fees too.


I also remember 12clicks getting crucified on AWI for hounding Goldman every time he poked his head out from under his rock. That 12 clicks has the tenacity of a pitbull...
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Old 12-11-2002, 05:19 AM   #44
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I remember Keelebayltd.com, sent some traffic to him - never got paid. Not sure about the amount though. (a few hundred probably - it was years ago).





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Old 12-11-2002, 06:19 AM   #45
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ehh wow.
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Old 12-11-2002, 08:51 AM   #46
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Now I'm getting pressured by some Steve Goldman cronies to remove this page from my server:

http://galleryspots.com/cheats/

***Link removed based on request becaues of address and phone number.***

Well FUCK YOU. It's not going anywhere. It will be updated on a regular basis. Already 3 new additions to it today. And don't even tell me you are going to get a lawyer and blah blah blah. I already consulted with 3 of them, I am excersising my right to free speech so fuck off and die. You really think any judge would even hear a case of one smut peddlar defacing another, especially one that has ripped off so many other webmasters like you have Steve Goldman? Whatever.
ROTFL. You are SOOO full of shit Choker. As far as I know I'm the ONLY one that messaged you and I told you if you REALLY wanted to help these people get paid to put the link to the thread on that page that Steve put up saying how to get paid. I NEVER suggested take it down nor did I tell you to. Get your facts straight.

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Old 12-11-2002, 10:33 AM   #47
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So why don't you guys who were ripped off all take the time to swear out affidavits and get the proper authorities involved?
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Old 12-11-2002, 10:34 AM   #48
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And what's worse is that the bastard had open affilaite accounts with us and we paid him on them. (This was before he ripped us...)
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Old 12-11-2002, 01:03 PM   #49
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Old 12-11-2002, 01:20 PM   #50
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working link
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