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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #1

    What is Alternative to StrongBox-ThrottleBox?

    I have a client who does not like SB as a solution, but still would like some protection for his pay site(s). What are some of the comparable alternatives out there?

    Fire away ladies.
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  • Karupted Charles
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 1662

    #2
    We use Proxy Pass and love it.
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    • Lace
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2004
      • 16116

      #3
      Wasn't there one 'penny' something? wise maybe? I cant remember off hand.
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      • NaughtyRob
        Two fresh affiliate progs
        • Nov 2004
        • 29602

        #4
        www.proxypass.com FTW $50 per month for the entire server.
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        • stickyfingerz
          Doin fine
          • Oct 2005
          • 24984

          #5
          Pennywise yes lace. I recommend phantom frog..

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          • MikeSmoke
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2002
            • 3241

            #6
            I use Strongbox - but I'm pretty sure Mojo has a deal for clients on Proxy Pass, if your client is hosted there.

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            • fris
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2002
              • 55702

              #7
              just stay away from pennywize as it doesnt work worth shit

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              • MaDalton
                I am Amazing Content!
                • Feb 2004
                • 39861

                #8
                phantomfrog works excellent but does not replace throttlebox
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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #9
                  Thanks guys. Great feedback.

                  I agreed MD. I love SB/TB myself. It is a must for most pay sites.

                  However, I have a client who is familiar with SB, and does not care for it. So I figured I would get some alternatives for him to check out.

                  Should You Email Your Members?

                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                  Enough Said.

                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                  • BobG
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 4274

                    #10
                    if you host with ISprime, they offer free use of their custom version, PrimeAuth. Works great for me and you can't beat the price

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BobG
                      if you host with ISprime, they offer free use of their custom version, PrimeAuth. Works great for me and you can't beat the price
                      I believe they are hosted with CHOPPA.
                      Should You Email Your Members?

                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                      Enough Said.

                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                      • gmr324
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1199

                        #12
                        Thanks for the Frog plug stickyfingerz, fris and Madalton

                        Phantom Frog recently announced a new relevant feature.
                        Webmasters can selectively allocate individual members more
                        bandwidth without effecting the bandwidth limits of other members.
                        Another recent Frog feature reports Bandwidth History for the
                        previous 30 days for each member.

                        Finally, we're beta testing an additional feature related to
                        trial members. This feature recognizes trial plan members and
                        reduces their available bandwidth. When the trial plan converts
                        to a full membership it automatically converts their available bandwidth
                        to the full amount. This way, it prevents people from sucking
                        the entire contents of the site and then cancelling the free trial
                        before converting to the full plan.

                        Hope this answers your questions

                        Thanks

                        George
                        Last edited by gmr324; 09-24-2009, 03:26 PM.

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                        • raymor
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 3745

                          #13
                          We'd VERY much like to hear about his concerns, suggestions for improvements, etc.
                          For three reasons, really, but I'll save the best for last. I'd really appreciate it if he gave
                          me a call, shoot me an email, or caught me on ICQ. [email protected],
                          ICQ 7208627, or phone 979-530-1300.

                          It may very well be that if he talked to us for a few minutes we could give him exactly
                          what he's looking for.

                          It's also common that webmasters say "I don't think I can use Strongbox for this because
                          I want to use ______ (Nats/Wordpress/whatever), and we reply "there's a setting
                          for that in the Strongbox config". Then the webmaster is really happy to find out we
                          have a setting for whatever they want to do - and do it better/easier than they planned
                          on doing it.

                          The biggest reason I like to talk to webmasters, though, is that very often a short
                          conversation will avoid a big problem for them. 98% of the time if a webmaster says
                          "I wish you had this feature" we tell them or show them exactly why we don't do that
                          and why they really don't want to. We'll pull up a site running PennyFrogPass or
                          whatever system they are referring to and show them how a hacker uses the "feature"
                          to dump the full list of passwords just like that. Of our three main "competitors", two
                          have "features" that are actually giant security holes and it's good for webmasters to
                          understand those significant issues before using those "features".

                          That reminds me, George, if I forget to get in touch with you guys in the next couple of
                          weeks remind me. Based on what the hackers are doing recently, we made an
                          important security update recently and I think you guys may need to make a similar
                          change. Whenever I get a free minute I plan to double check your code for that
                          one and another concern and I'll let you know if in fact I see something major. I've
                          just been so busy I haven't had time to look.
                          Last edited by raymor; 09-25-2009, 10:40 AM.
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                          • natkejs
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1640

                            #14
                            We're using ProxyPass and are very happy. They have all sorts of modules available also to extend it and it has captcha support etc. etc.

                            Strongly recommended over here

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                            • PhantomFrog
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 89

                              #15
                              RE: Raymor's indictment of his 3 competitors -- (PennyFrogPass)

                              "We'll pull up a site running PennyFrogPass or whatever system
                              they are referring to and show them how a hacker uses the feature
                              to dump the full list of passwords just like that. Of our three main
                              competitors, two have features that are actually giant security
                              holes and it's good for webmasters to understand those significant
                              issues before using those features."

                              I had a phone conversation with Ray today.

                              I asked Ray to tell me if he believed Phantom Frog had any of the security holes he mentioned in his indictment of his 3 competitors (PennyFrogPass). Ray said "NO".

                              I asked Ray if he would post a retraction of his indictment with respect to Phantom Frog. Ray said "YES".

                              I look forward to Ray's timely retraction.

                              Kind regards,
                              Bill -- Developer, PhantomFrog.com
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                              • raymor
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 3745

                                #16
                                Originally posted by PhantomFrog
                                RE: Raymor's indictment of his 3 competitors -- (PennyFrogPass)

                                ...


                                I asked Ray to tell me if he believed Phantom Frog had any of the security holes he mentioned in his indictment of his 3 competitors (PennyFrogPass). Ray said "NO".

                                I asked Ray if he would post a retraction of his indictment with respect to Phantom Frog.
                                ...

                                Kind regards,
                                Bill -- Developer, PhantomFrog.com

                                I told Bill I would clarify this point:

                                My post was not an indictment of Phantom Frog or any other system specifically, and
                                should not be construed as such. When I said "PennyFrogPass or whatever system they
                                are referring to"
                                I made up the generic combination of names specifically because
                                I did not want to point out any system in particular. My generic term "PennyFrogPass" does
                                not refer to any system in particular. I don't think it would be right for me to post details on how
                                to exploit any specific system, so I'm just saying generally that some systems have either
                                a) downright security holes or b) "features" which reduce security. We've chosen not to
                                include such "features" because they are not needed with our system and they reduce
                                security. So my post is not meant to say the Frog or any other specific system has any
                                specific problem. I'm not here to give the crackers help, so all I'm saying is that some
                                systems which are supposed to protect you actually have security holes of their own, period.
                                Any further details need not be posted publicly, but only discussed privately with people who
                                have a legitimate need to know.

                                Further, as I've said many times before, in my opinion Frog is better than a lot of systems.
                                Of course we prefer our own philosophy, but Frog is in many respects better than a lot of
                                scripts people buy, many of which are not well written at all. I also enjoy speaking with
                                Bill and George, who have been more cordial than you might expect from "competitors".
                                I don't really see them as "competitors" in the way you might expect, as we each offer something
                                different, coming from two different philosophies, so most webmasters will prefer one philosophy
                                or the other regardless of how we each try to "compete". Anyway, the point is my post wasn't
                                about Frog, and Bill wanted me to clarify that.
                                Last edited by raymor; 09-27-2009, 06:09 PM.
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                                • C4W
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 699

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BobG
                                  if you host with ISprime, they offer free use of their custom version, PrimeAuth. Works great for me and you can't beat the price
                                  I use it to.
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                                  • PhantomFrog
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2006
                                    • 89

                                    #18
                                    "Good to see that clarified Ray"
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