So many crybabies here. Any real businessman left? If so....

100 businessmen.

hopefully some real pissing will come on this page

Not a chance Hollywood.

As I wrote in the other thread. I'll paste it here as well.

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Shap, I respect you as well (At Times) but what I don't understand is for someone like you, your reputation, the quality of Sites you own. You have one of the best if not the best photographers and have used him for years (Dean Capture) he is not cheap but worth every penny. Your sites are amazing. But why do you spend so much time and money to make them look like they do if you know they aren't converting like they used to? I own Played out AVS sites which people think have died a decade ago. They still makes amazing sales and I still put quality photos and Videos weekly for new members and for existing members that we have had for over 8 - 10 years. I'm proud of the quality that we put in our sites but to see a free script go up and take away majority of the sales we all worked so hard for yes, It pisses me off. (Especially when it's with our content)

I understand that you are saying, fuck it, it's happened, nobody did anything about it lets move on. Some of us don't stand that ground. We just had the biggest fire in Southern California History that just started down the street from my house. Did I say fuck it, lets pour fuel in the fire and let it burn. No, people stepped in and did their best to put it out and help each other.

Yes, I think it's a little too late because the Tube sites did pour in and I don't think one Company could have stopped them. But just because it's happening we shouldn't be quiet about it.

I like our business, I"m proud of it and I will help it stay strong and lucrative as long as I can. I care for the Affiliates, because they made us who we are and we have never missed sending a check since 96' I care about the customers that is why we have had our own in-house processing and in-house customer service since day one. This is our life. We don't want it to go away because of Scum bugs that want to fuck everyone over for some Advertising money.

But every fucking time I ask someone now where they go for porn, they always mention one of the big FREE TUBE sites and that PISSES ME OFF!!!

Do I think GFY should have turned down this Skin....YES. I don't advertise here now but I used to for a long time and as of a few weeks ago, I did talk to Eric and I was going to again.

Just sad that it's come to this. Very Sad!

very interesting read !

Shap,

I won't be in Amsterdam but I'd love to meet you in Toronto some time.

We are very excited about the business we are doing with you.

I'd welcome the opportunity to discuss what more we can do for you.

TwistysTube.com...coming to you from an offshore server soon ;)

i am sorry can you name 1 tube site that has been stupid enough to upload 20,000 videos under a single account. Especially with batch scripts you could create 200 accounts
in less then 20 minutes.

or who doesn't simply scrape another tube site accounts and all to make a perfect list for themselves.