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BrettJ 12-16-2002 09:51 PM

Aaron you're an aarogant fuck'n prick. Be grateful that anybody responded to your shit ass thread!!!!

aml,
~Brett

Shaggy 12-16-2002 09:51 PM

The neighbor kid drives a big wheel, and he would say that he prefers a snickers and a blow pop better than just a snickers. :1orglaugh

No offense, just fucking with you a little. :winkwink:

AaronM 12-16-2002 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ
Aaron you're an aarogant fuck'n prick. Be grateful that anybody responded to your shit ass thread!!!!

aml,
~Brett

LOL...If I did not know you, I would think you were serious. Too funny.

Now, go get me some coffee, office boy.

He who has no car. :)

BrettJ 12-16-2002 10:06 PM

go to sleep, pussy

FlyingIguana 12-16-2002 10:18 PM

one thing i wanted to do, but i don't have the cash or the time, is a plug in movie content of downloadable movies. with an upsell to very high quality videos.

something like the influx video content i seen a couple years ago, but better quality and downloadable.

i think thet would help retention 10x more than streams

Hooper 12-16-2002 10:28 PM

exclusive is good but highly over-rated.

quantity matters in this biz more than most idiots know.

Shaggy 12-16-2002 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
exclusive is good but highly over-rated.

quantity matters in this biz more than most idiots know.

I agree, I've never understood all the fuss about exclusive content. I've been an adult webmaster for over 4 years and besides some of the over exposed pics from TGPs pretty much all movie content seems exclusive to me.

Or maybe I just don't have a very good memory of the movies I've seen. But mostly I think that there are shit loads of movies made every year, more than most people could possibly have time for. So why worry about exclusive shit? Just have a lot of movies.

Pornwolf 12-16-2002 11:17 PM

It's like anything else, if they've never seen it before (which they probably haven't) you can tell them it's exclusive pics and movies of chicks from the North Pole and they wouldn't know the damn difference.

People really don't see 1/32 of the porn we are exposed to. Don't give them too much credit.

BrettJ 12-16-2002 11:21 PM

k, time for me to chime in with something besides just worthless banter....

i'm more a quality over quantity guy myself.

the quality of the models...and the allure a virgin girl posses will increase conversions... if you have already seen her naked ... you might not be as interested.

frequent and regular updates are also important... most feeds will only update once a month... and it's better to have good quality content over ... a shit load of it... nothing would make me move over and cancel faster than paying 30 bucks and then seeing a bunch of shitty 1970 porn feeds

kronic 12-16-2002 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Shaggy


I agree, I've never understood all the fuss about exclusive content. I've been an adult webmaster for over 4 years and besides some of the over exposed pics from TGPs pretty much all movie content seems exclusive to me.

Or maybe I just don't have a very good memory of the movies I've seen. But mostly I think that there are shit loads of movies made every year, more than most people could possibly have time for. So why worry about exclusive shit? Just have a lot of movies.

Than you should take GREAT pride in your marketing abilities, because we are all marketing the same product. Those that market the product better, succeed.

Those that have an exclusive product and market it well, do better.

Those that have an exclusive product and market it as well as you say you do, do better than anyone in the industry (except perhaps, the owners of this exclusive program).

As for those of you wanting high quality feeds. Are you willing to pay for them?

Bubblegirls IS a fantastic feed. One of my favorites. Probably THE BEST feed on the market TODAY.

I suggest you hit up Ron from Xamo and ask him about the feeds they are about to release. (He told me they were looking at a late January release).

He was so kind as to give me a preview as to what Xamo was about to release.

They are FAR AND AWAY the best I have seen.

horns 12-16-2002 11:56 PM

there's a big difference between exclusive and *original* content.

Shaggy 12-17-2002 12:31 AM

I must be doing something right because I retain members at 55% from $3.95 trial to $29.95. Which is more than twice the industry average.

I believe that quality is job #1. What you think is quality, might not be quality at all. I used to think holio's feeds were the shit. Wrong. I retained at only 20%. I almost tripled my retention when I learned what quality really was.

Plus I have a lot of quality.

Your content doesn't have to be exclusive, just mostly exclusive. If your using the same streams that everyone else uses, you will obviously not do as well.

On the other hand, bangbus for instance. All exclusive stuff, but I find the members area unexciting. It is entertaining more than it is sexually fulfilling. They could use extra content that is sexually fulfilling to boost retention and that should answer to topic of this post.
:2 cents:

Stay tuned, I will be giving away a Yamaha Raptor 4 wheeler to kick off my next site. :winkwink:

Paul Markham 12-17-2002 12:52 AM

This is a "How long is this piece of string" question. The answer depends on what are you already offering the client. 10 Exclusive sets poor quality or 1,000 exclusive sets and 500 exclusive videos top quality.

First thing is to decide if you already have enough to attract and retain the client. Then look at the mix within the style of the niche. It is generally a bad decision to go with just one shooter. This narrows down your appeal, you end up only with the guys that like that style and that way of shooting only.

NO big magazine, video publisher, website goes exclusively with one shooter (to my knowledge) they get diferent people to shoot within the same niche and to a similar style. To broaden their appeal.

I also agree with the guys talking about quality, tooo many think this is just a numbers game and fill a site with as much content for the less money. Who do they attract as members? The guy looking to spend as little as possible and get as much as posible. Do not compete with Wal-Mart unless you have deep pockets, go for quality.

I also agree with Dugmoor, there are webmasters out there that think you can shoot an excusive set for nothing. Quality costs and it will bring in the returns.

:2 cents:

Paul Markham 12-17-2002 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by horns
there's a big difference between exclusive and *original* content.
Right the problem is for it to be original it means a totally different approach, or location or model. Even then when you have shot it a few times it's no longer original.

What it needs to be is quality, the surfer is not looking for something *original* he's looking to jerk off , not to be amazed at our creativity.

I've shot the same basic style for 5 years and it sells. The only diference is a never ending supply of cute girls. It continues to sell and convert because we know and understand what are doing so do it well.

Exclusive content will retain and attract members. If it is good enough and you have enough. Bad exclusive is still bad and not enough with fresh coming in all the time will also lead to charge backs. That means a big investment which few new sites have, so a mixture between good exclusive and fresh non-exclusive is the best way forward.

Mutt 12-17-2002 04:45 AM

to the guy who asked how to lease the Bubble Girls plugin - i don't know now. The link i have doesn't work. I know at one time Python was marketing if for them but i see that it's not on their site anymore.

There are no links for webmasters on the BG site - a mystery. Bubble Girls isn't on a ton of paysites - i know it's on CDGirls and maybe ATK has it. It fits in perfectly with those type of sites.

heymatty 12-17-2002 08:23 AM

I think the triple x cash guys own bubblegirls now

maybe talk to evil chris and he can hook you up, I could of course be totally wrong. So cal streams is quite similar so you could check that out as an alternative.

AdultGames 12-17-2002 08:48 AM

We have many clients where we take out interactive games content and totally modify and swap out all images, logos, and sometimes totally redesign the games altogether to fit the style and look of their exclusive site.

We do this a lot with amateur models, etc. I think they love it because it is cool to see that they are featured in their own strip poker game, etc.

I think interactive content like games, etc can go a long way. Even though we are a plugin company, we are able to modify our content for our clients needs and different sites if requested.

redmf 12-17-2002 08:51 AM

:2 cents: If ya want them ta stay offer them something that will bring them back. Something interactive where they are part of your website. I have a few ideas, email me.


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