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				Anyone here generate your own electricity?
			 
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		 I just remember one of my grandparent's old house fans.  They never had air-conditioning.  The would start their fan in their attic, open windows... and bam... cool house.  Worked really, really well... just saying.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I hate these types of sites. 99.9% of them are worthless and a waste of time. Not even going to bother reading but go by the old saying - you get what you pay for. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 lol thats a scam site to collect leads.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I have a fully solar powered home. If I can get that for $200 and they work, I will kill myself. We spent around 30k for the entire house. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have three solar panels on my RV charging four deep cycle 12 volt batteries with a 2000 Watt Continuous/4000 Watt Peak Power Inverter  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 yes around here every apartment has a solar water heater.... if you install your own solar system on your roof you can sell it for profit to the electricity company....it costs a lot more then $200 though, it's probably a scam. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Lots of states are giving money to people that make the switch and also most of the local power companies will purchase the power from you.. Most likely that is what they mean. If you get the rebates and sell total power you generate for the first month or so, you can most likely make enough back to have most of the coin back in your pocket. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 You can build your own wind turbine and solar systems cheaply and easily. Those sites are scams to collect leads. But there's sites like Instructables that have SHITLOADS of plans to build stuff. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 We installed a huge solar panel to power a pump down a 80ft deep bore hole. Cost $10,000 AUD. We water all out stock with the water drawn up from the bore and hope to bring water to the house for shower and washing purposes soon. Bit salty to drink unfortunately :-( great swimming pool water though! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Windmills set up are around $2,000 from what i can remember. I used to work on a farm and they are the biggest pains in the ass to maintain, i spent proberly 10% of work time maintaining the bloody things, the washers were always wearing out inside or the barrels would wear or get grit in them, then as you pointed out, no wind = no water! There was quite a few times when there were weeks of no wind and i had a water pump pumping day and night out of a particular well to keep cattle and sheep alive. We have had the solar pump operating for 18 months now and it hasnt missed beat, even on a cloudy day, it still runs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 Site listed is a fraud. The cells are more expensive than 200 each, and a inverter will run ya another 400-800. Batteries can be obtained fairly cheaply if you shop around are frugal. Wind turbines should not be the blade type, they are to prone to damage, require more maintaining, and do not give the best results in all wind conditions. You should be looking at the spiral cylinder type blade systems. They work in all wind conditions, even minimal winds. Plus they require less space and lots less maintenance. Geo thermal is not cheap and not available everywhere unless you have major money. Hydro can be obtained pretty cheap and easily if you have year round running water on your property. Alcohol to electric conversion is one of the cheaper routes if you do not have water, only major expense besides the converter is have the crops or sugars to produce the alcohol in the first place. Then again nothing is stopping someone from generating it from steam either. Real trick is to have the best ones for your conditions all working in tandum for you. One of the main reasons my main property buy I am searching for has been so difficult. I have so many wants on my list and I want at least 80% of them and 100% of the mandatories. Not easy but not impossible either where I am at. 
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