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stickyfingerz 09-22-2009 08:47 PM

100 people thinking waiting for downloads is cooolll. lol

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16350725)
tubes suck PERIOD. People go there because the content is FREE not because the content is there in a convenient way. If you think people would pay $39.95 a month for membership to a tube site you're fucking nuts.

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Ya after all most people when about to jerk off want to wait 7 minutes or so to download a scene. Dick in hand ready to jerk... watching a status bar telling them how many minutes till they can shoot their load.

This seems innovative. I think TV channels should start using a courier system. You click on a channel, and a guy drives a dvd out to you so you can pop it in and watch it.

I mean people aren't used to instant viewing of video right? That whole tv since the 40's and 50's thing.. being able to click a button to watch a new channel, now youtube being the biggest media site on the planet. ITS OBVIOUS that you are so much more in touch with the public than the rest of us. I personally LOVE LOVE LOVE the anticipation of downloading a hot scene before I can view it. Seems obvious that everyone would prefer to download something and wait till they can view it.. obvious.

The whole instant viewing thing is just a fad....

GatorB 09-22-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16348523)
Our streams don't buffer, nor do many of the other companies running streaming the right way. I've had people check our streams in Costa Rica, in Europe, in Canada, South America etc all on slower connections like 3000 down and 128 up and they didn't buffer or glitch for them. Just because you had bad experience with some companies that didn't have their streaming setup correctly doesn't mean all streaming just buffers constantly.

Ya afterall that Youtube place really lost its popularity with its whole "streaming" concept. I mean who even goes on that site with all the buffering? You'd think that people would surely have demanded that place goto a downloadable model so people could watch those videos at their own convenience offline right?

Youtube also loses $300 mil a year. Not exactly a business model I would want to emulate.


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Tell you what find me some non streaming download video sites with higher alexa rankings than this that are based off video.



Youtube.com
4
Alexa Traffic Rank

Pornhub.com
50
Alexa Traffic Rank

tube8.com
71
Alexa Traffic Rank

hulu.com
247
Alexa Traffic Rank

Break.com
403
Alexa Traffic Rank

Veoh.com
222
Alexa Traffic Rank

DailyMotion.com
76
Alexa Traffic Rank

Vimeo.com
461
Alexa Traffic Rank


We'll be waiting patiently for your results... :1orglaugh
That has nothing to do with anything. As I said Youtube loses $300 mil a year. Hulu is considering going to subscription model. What's Hulu's ranking going to be then? Also you're comparing porn to non-porn. Sites like Hulu and Youtube actually have the bandwidth to stream properly. Most of these porn tubes don't. So please keep defending them. Hell I like Hulu I go there all the time. I'm not against streaming. The thing is Hulu is FREE and I put up with the small amount of commericals to enjoy the free shows. If I was required to pay I'd have different expectations.

You just like to argue with me. Go back to sucking dick and giving away cameras in exchange for content you "accidently borrowed"

stickyfingerz 09-22-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16350753)
Youtube also loses $300 mil a year. Not exactly a business model I would want to emulate.




That has nothing to do with anything. As I said Youtube loses $300 mil a year. Hulu is considering going to subscription model. What's Hulu's ranking going to be then? Also you're comparing porn to non-porn. Sites like Hulu and Youtube actually have the bandwidth to stream properly. Most of these porn tubes don't. So please keep defending them. Hell I like Hulu I go there all the time. I'm not against streaming. The thing is Hulu is FREE and I put up with the small amount of commericals to enjoy the free shows. If I was required to pay I'd have different expectations.

You just like to argue with me. Go back to sucking dick and giving away cameras in exchange for content you "accidently borrowed"


Can't keep the debate clean can you? Always going for the personal shit eh? What fucking difference does it make if youtube is losing money? They are a free model. You were claiming people don't like streaming video. I showed you the biggest sites on the planet are ummm streaming video. And they are actually mostly progressive downloads not even true streaming. I can deliver video better and faster than you tube with NO buffering to my members. And btw if you believe all that shit about the camera and not sure what you mean by borrowed content. I sold content to a client, and all money went where it was supposed to. I sent a 1400.00 camera to Brad that he was supposed to shoot video in Thailand with for a joint biz venture. He still has the camera. I GOT FUCKED for 1400.00 yet I didn't ever cry or whine about it on gfy. I won't mention the paysite that he redirect the url on that was already up and processing sales. Im the one that got fucked there and there are many people that know the truth now. I don't ask them to come stick up for me about it. But ya believe the guy that comes on here and acts like an ass due to alcohol abuse. You are about as stupid as him so it makes sense.

But again you can't handle just debating the issues going on, have to goto a personal level and that shows what a pathetic lump of skin you really are.

Robbie 09-22-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16350725)
tubes suck PERIOD. People go there because the content is FREE not because the content is there in a convenient way. If you think people would pay $39.95 a month for membership to a tube site you're fucking nuts.

That's not true. Claudia-Marie is set up just like a tube site. I get 29.99 all day long and rebill better than most other paysites as well.
You are merely giving an opinion. I'm telling you what I am actually doing and have done for more than a year.

GatorB 09-22-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16350748)
100 people thinking waiting for downloads is cooolll. lol



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Ya after all most people when about to jerk off want to wait 7 minutes or so to download a scene. Dick in hand ready to jerk... watching a status bar telling them how many minutes till they can shoot their load.

Yes most guys with dick in hand love jerking of to a 400 kbps stream that buffers every 10 seconds. quit arguing. First you bash tubes then you praise them just to disagree with me. Seriously fuck of and die because I'm not sure WTF your issue is.

GatorB 09-22-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350777)
That's not true.

it's not true I woudn't buy a membership to a stream only site? You know me better than I know me?

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You are merely giving an opinion. I'm telling you what I am actually doing and have done for more than a year.
Well my opinon matters to me. And good for you.

stickyfingerz 09-22-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16350781)
Yes most guys with dick in hand love jerking of to a 400 kbps stream that buffers every 10 seconds. quit arguing. First you bash tubes then you praise them just to disagree with me. Seriously fuck of and die because I'm not sure WTF your issue is.

You show with every post your cluelessness.

I didn't praise tubes.. where did I do that exactly? 400 kbps? lolz Most of us are around 1100 and that was on old flash stuff we did 1100. You just have no clue AT ALL. Do you work with video? Do you encode, edit, or produce video? Can you show us samples of your work? Do you run a paysite? Do you have any sites? What exactly qualifies your opinion as useful? Are you a surfer? Do you sign up to paysites? Please enlighten us all on your experience.

Robbie 09-22-2009 09:22 PM

Ryan, please don't get into a fight with GatorB.

He will think and do as he pleases. And his actions and thoughts really won't have any bearing on what is happening.

The people who actually OWN content know what is happening to them. And guys like myself who have made a lot of money with TGP's and affiliate work and now paysite work know EXACTLY what we are doing.

If you get into a stupid argument you only take away from the real matter at hand.

Bottom line is this: If you own a paysite, you have two choices...keep watching the rebills and new sales fade OR do something about it. I chose the latter. I've been very successful at everything I've done in adult.

I trust my instincts and judgment more so than anybody on this board. Other folks can do as they wish.

But I would like to say this to any other paysite owners...If and when you start protecting your content, please email me. YOU will become the main sites I push on my TGP's. I am sick of 1:15000 type conversion ratios on paysites these days due to piracy. Same sites that were 1:350 3 years ago. Same sites that update weekly and have fantastic content. The one thing that is different? Their entire members areas are now FREE on torrents and "bad" tube sites.

If you protect your content...I WANT TO PROMOTE YOUR PAYSITE. You are front of the line for me.

stickyfingerz 09-22-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350804)
Ryan, please don't get into a fight with GatorB.

He will think and do as he pleases. And his actions and thoughts really won't have any bearing on what is happening.

The people who actually OWN content know what is happening to them. And guys like myself who have made a lot of money with TGP's and affiliate work and now paysite work know EXACTLY what we are doing.

If you get into a stupid argument you only take away from the real matter at hand.

Bottom line is this: If you own a paysite, you have two choices...keep watching the rebills and new sales fade OR do something about it. I chose the latter. I've been very successful at everything I've done in adult.

I trust my instincts and judgment more so than anybody on this board. Other folks can do as they wish.

But I would like to say this to any other paysite owners...If and when you start protecting your content, please email me. YOU will become the main sites I push on my TGP's. I am sick of 1:15000 type conversion ratios on paysites these days due to piracy. Same sites that were 1:350 3 years ago. Same sites that update weekly and have fantastic content. The one thing that is different? Their entire members areas are now FREE on torrents and "bad" tube sites.

If you protect your content...I WANT TO PROMOTE YOUR PAYSITE. You are front of the line for me.


You are correct. I shouldn't let myself be baited by a fat idiot.. oops nm. :winkwink::1orglaugh

BigDeanEvans 09-23-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16349088)
I've never paid a dime to tubes and still manage to get free traffic from them. ;) Thats what everyone needs to be doing. Its like any other traffic source ... find a way to exploit it for your own needs. lol


LOL, what a few hits? its takes 10's of thousands of hits to make a sale...you must be talking about making cheeseburger money, not any real money.

BigDeanEvans 09-23-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 16349088)
I've never paid a dime to tubes and still manage to get free traffic from them. ;) Thats what everyone needs to be doing. Its like any other traffic source ... find a way to exploit it for your own needs. lol


LOL, what a few hits? its takes 10's of thousands of hits to make a sale...you must be talking about making cheeseburger money, not any real money.

stickyfingerz 09-23-2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 16351902)
LOL, what a few hits? its takes 10's of thousands of hits to make a sale...you must be talking about making cheeseburger money, not any real money.

No it really doesn't. I was uploading watermarked videos to tubes in 2006 long long time ago pushing traffic to a landing page to filter the traffic out and getting good ratios on the sponsor side. Never took 10's of thousands of hits. Maybe if you were pushing general old traffic to normal porn, but pushing towards nichey stuff isn't that hard.

Fletch XXX 09-23-2009 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350777)
You are merely giving an opinion. I'm telling you what I am actually doing and have done for more than a year.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Dennis69 09-23-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350777)
That's not true. Claudia-Marie is set up just like a tube site. I get 29.99 all day long and rebill better than most other paysites as well.
You are merely giving an opinion. I'm telling you what I am actually doing and have done for more than a year.

Good to hear it's working out for you Robbie... but if you talk to the wall it may sink through quicker then most here!

Wizzo 09-23-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16350777)
That's not true. Claudia-Marie is set up just like a tube site. I get 29.99 all day long and rebill better than most other paysites as well.
You are merely giving an opinion. I'm telling you what I am actually doing and have done for more than a year.

I've telling people for about a year now that a good tube script is in most cases a better CMS for a member area than any actual CMS software...:thumbsup

Nautilus 09-23-2009 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 16349061)
Do you think they came here to get humiliated because their coffers are bursting with ad revenue?

Interesting point.


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