Soda Tax, your thoughts?

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  • beerptrol
    Confirmed Asshole
    • Feb 2003
    • 12722

    #31
    They do it here, I just wait until the pop goes on sale for a great price and then stock up
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    • ADL Colin
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2001
      • 11929

      #32
      Originally posted by BradM
      I have always supported a 500%+ tax on unhealthy food. I have no problem with it. You can be skinny, gay, black or white - the fact remains the shit is NOT good for you. No one should drink it.
      Unhealthy by what criteria? I have a friend who is a vegetarian who thinks meat isn't healthy. Is that what you mean by unhealthy? Meat?


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      • BFT3K
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Dec 2005
        • 10764

        #33
        Originally posted by TheSenator
        Its all about how you "frame" the argument against "big corp". Republicans have become masters at protecting their interest and framing the argument to their favor.
        I totally agree. The manipulation and misinformation in this country is at an all-time high right now. Tons of people rallying against their own interests... it's very sad.

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        • ADL Colin
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2001
          • 11929

          #34
          Originally posted by Davy
          I don't think you could make such a rather cheap product like soda unattractive by adding tax.
          So we know what kind of numbers we are talkiing about ...

          "a review conducted by Yale University?s Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity suggested that for every 10 percent increase in price, consumption decreases by 7.8 percent."


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          • Sarah_Jayne
            Now with more Jayne
            • Dec 2002
            • 40077

            #35
            or just actually teach people better ways of eating...weird concept, I know

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            • Fletch XXX
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              • Jan 2002
              • 60840

              #36
              Originally posted by ADL Colin
              Unhealthy by what criteria? I have a friend who is a vegetarian who thinks meat isn't healthy. Is that what you mean by unhealthy? Meat?
              Interesting angle considering meat is carcinogenic, and sugar isn't. This type of tax definitely opens doors to lots of questions regarding "healthy vs unhealthy."

              Taxing carcinogens or taxing sugar, which would help us more?

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              • Tom_PM
                Porn Meister
                • Feb 2005
                • 16443

                #37
                So is the government going to write a check on the backend to the pepsi's and coca colas of the world when profits plunge? Or will the fat pigs keep slurping it up?

                I know for me when NY state entertained this idea, I stopped buying soda altogether. Now, do I buy Kool Aid in the canister pre-mixed with sugar? Or the unsweetned packets along with packets of Splenda?
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                • BFT3K
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 10764

                  #38
                  Maybe a health chart should be created, and the companies that provide the products we consume should be taxed and penalized as follows. This would require a non-biased group of experts of course, but for example...

                  Naturally raised beef, with no growth hormones or antibiotics = no extra taxes or penalties.
                  Modified beef, filled with growth hormones and antibiotics = extra taxes and penalties.

                  Drinks sweetened with real sugar = no extra taxes or penalties.
                  Drinks sweetened with corn syrups and/or poisonous sweeteners = extra taxes and penalties.

                  Bread products made with whole grains = no extra taxes or penalties.
                  Bread products made with processed flour = extra taxes and penalties.

                  This could force the companies that provide our food to think twice before poisoning us, as their profits will be higher if their products are healthier.

                  Just a thought....

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                  • TurboAngel
                    H.B.I.C.
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 30122

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ADL Colin
                    One proposal is calling for what works out to be a 12% tax.
                    That's high as shit, they raised the sales tax here from 7.5 up to 8.75%. 3 years ago they raised it from 6.5 to 7.5 and told everyone it was only for 2 yeas boom you think they took it back down? NO LMAO , this hike is going to go back to 7.5 in 2 years LMFAO! It's Government great? They have raised the Sin tax (smokes and alcohol) and on top of that raise now they kick in another 8.75%.

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                    • flip.green
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 228

                      #40
                      The govt pays subsidies to farmers which drives the price of food down and encourages things like corn syrup. So now they want to tax the bad food that comes from this policy. In a round about way its double taxation, since our taxes pay the subsidies to begin with. I question the logic, since when do more taxes solve bad govt policies?


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                      • BFT3K
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 10764

                        #41
                        If a family or a person is on a limited budget, they are WAY more likely to make bad food decisions, as unhealthy foods are much cheaper, and easier to find.

                        You can feed a family of five at a fast food joint for around $20 - you can buy lots of processed food and crap meat (like hot dogs and bologna), plus sugary drinks at the supermarket for five people, for around $20 as well.

                        If you want natural foods, organic meats and vegetables, fresh fruit, healthy drinks, whole grain breads, etc.... it will be much more difficult (if not impossible) to accomplish for that same $20 budget.

                        Sure, you can probably live on beans and brown rice for a while, but your variety of food combinations in that price range will be very limited.

                        Ideally it should cost MORE to eat crap, and LESS to eat healthy.

                        That should be the challenge we take on. Tax BREAKS for healthy farmers and food producers, and taxes and penalties for those who wish to poison us.

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                        • Sarah_Jayne
                          Now with more Jayne
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 40077

                          #42
                          Unhealthy food being cheaper is a myth. What is usually meant it unhealthy food that you don't have to actually cook is cheaper than healthy foods. Very basic vegetables are not expensive..spuds, carrots, onion, etc but you need to be able to cook a bit to make them into the cheap meals they can be.

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                          • The Porn Nerd
                            Living The Dream
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19784

                            #43
                            New Coke? Marketing fears? Who cares?

                            Good idea tho, if it curbs the drinking of sugar-water. That's why our kids are so fat, and us, too, so anything that reduces the consumption is ok with me. Of course, what a slippery slope, eh? We could be next: a porn tax! Hey, if it reduces the consumption of porn some relegious nuts might think it's a good thing and start lobbying for it.

                            So ultimately: fuck the tax. Never give an inch, they take a mile.
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                            • beerptrol
                              Confirmed Asshole
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12722

                              #44
                              Let's cut out the bullshit. Instead of taxing unhealthy food thay should just tax people for being fat asses. a Fat Bastard Tax. And yes, that means my taxes will be going up if passed lol
                              Last edited by beerptrol; 09-17-2009, 01:08 PM.
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                              -- Ulysses S. Grant

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                              • GatorB
                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 18208

                                #45
                                Originally posted by BestXXXPorn
                                They also want to tax chocolate ...

                                I'd like to fucking punch these assholes in the face that's how I feel about it... look I'm 6'1" 155 lbs, I can drink all the damn soda I want...
                                Fine. when you get diabetes don't ask for MY tax dollars to pay for your treatment then.

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