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				VISA nukes "Sleep" sites.
			 
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			 Viva la vulva! 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 I always wondered how people got away with that one. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 ouch...that has gotta suck...what is your source on this? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 One of my favorite things is being woke up by my wife with a blowjob. I'm sure I am not the only one whose 'thing' is similar. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			It doesn't always have to be about 'rape' or consent. In fact nothing about that does anything for me, quite the contrary, but again, I wish I could get woken up like that more often. haha Sorry for the TMI. 
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		 Soon only sites using the missionary position will be "acceptable by VISA... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 fan⋅ta⋅sy 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			1. imagination, esp. when extravagant and unrestrained. 2. the forming of mental images, esp. wondrous or strange fancies; imaginative conceptualizing. 3. a mental image, esp. when unreal or fantastic; vision: a nightmare fantasy. 4. Psychology. an imagined or conjured up sequence fulfilling a psychological need; daydream. 5. a hallucination. 
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		 Thank Jebus I never promote that niche. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 simulated rape is simulated rape. i can tell anyone here to suck my dick... me waking up 3 days later with one of you homos trying, doesn't make it a consensual act. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 waiting to see the source of such rumors 2..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 On gfy people just have to announce something and everyone has to believe it. No needs for links or anything. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yea, the unfortunate thing is that while porn is fantasy, the idiots that watch porn are real, and surely at least some watch sleep porn, think that would be a good way to get a chick that wouldn't normally fuck them, etc.  That's not to say it should be stopped on account of some idiots who will get the wrong idea from it, but honestly I don't think it's such a necessary niche that it should be upsetting for it to go to niche heaven. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i know ccbill had a policy against this, but people just moved to different processors.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			if visa is enforcing this, then people will move to a token type credit system where they spend $ at an account at one site and then use the funds to buy the membership on another site.. (i.e.: a popular video clip sales place does this).. Or they just drop Visa for those sites and give the biz to MC and the others.. (both options however would hurt conversion ratios) if it is true, it is a shame.. I mean what's wrong with a little fantasy.. has nothing at all to do with rape.. having my wife wake me up by sucking my dick (as mentioned before by someone else) is my thing and I have many sites dedicated to this.. it isn't anything to call the police about.. LOL so what is up Visa's moral ass? 
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		 Contact any 3rd Party billing rep(Paycom/CCBill), you can already see that anyone with a major "sleep" site has quickly switched to a localized/aggregate biller, that will only be a temp option for them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			....and I am the fucking source. Here is the source link: Visa nukes "sleep" sites 
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		 I always find a couple webcam models asleep on the job. Pull their processing! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 75% of the girls n these sites are well known pornstars. I don't see what the frush is. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yes, they are adult pornstars/acting, so what has "consent" to do with anything? This is the same as "don't say fuck on TV". Censorship.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			someone can have the 2257 but not the consent of someone? Unless you pay the model for a regular shot and later on get in her house and shot her while she sleep lol 
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	So am I not understanding that he basically just told us all he made it up and it's not true? By the way...not that it matters or anything...but in my opinion you should be able to do anything you want in a film. (not talking about ACTUALLY killing, raping etc.) It's just a movie. They kill and rape all the time in Hollywood movies. Hell I just sat through the latest "Final Destination" movie. A fucking slaughterfest. Anyway, you should be able to simulate any goddamn thing you want to. You want to have a 21 year old dress up like she's 15? So what? You want to have two actors play out a rape scene? So what? You want to bring out the ketchup and fake knives and kill people on film? So what? It's goddamn movies! Jesus Christ! Let people decide for themselves. If people WANT to see it, it will be successful. If people don't want to see it, it will die away quickly. I just can't wrap my head around the notion that some people have the right to tell other full grown adults what they can see, watch, do, read, write, or film. As long as it is consenting adults working on a film together. The govt. is really starting to get on my fucking nerves. I know I'm not the only one.  | 
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 as always said lots of people killed by knifes, but nobody ever get the idea of removing knifes. if there is such act, then Jail that idiot and let he got ass raped/gang banged by horny prisoners, simple as it, No need to hurt anyone's business  | 
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		 "Sleep" will just be changed into "daydreaming" or "coma". Most of the models are not sleeping anyway, so why waste the content when you can easily change the context  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I am the source does not mean I made it up, who are you BTW? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			It's happening right now, sleep sites are getting steam rolled by VISA. When I acquired Long Dong Dollars it came with a site call Sleep Invasion, we closed that site not long after the takeover. Just last week every single one of our billers contacted us to make sure the site was still not accepting customers, they all, I repeat ALL said VISA is aggressively shutting sleep sites down. Doesn't matter if the site is loaded with consenting popular pornstars, VISA says no more 
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 The "left wing" is getting stronger and stronger. Hell in a few years i wonder if the earth won't be an entire "left-wing-communist-planet". Or like 1984 by George Orwell (movie) ! (oh no China here i come)  ) | 
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	This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.  | 
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