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Tukhman 12-09-2002 01:54 PM

Ryan,

It aint' bragging if it's true :1orglaugh

sync 12-09-2002 01:55 PM

We let BGP do the inbound routing for us. AboveNet proved to be a much better provider than Yipes and therefore most (not all) routes were selected over them. Route servers propogate only the selected best route, not all routes available to our subnets. Get on a real router ( not a route server which is a route reflector client ) and do a sh ip bgp xx.xx.xx.xx for our network.

Do we need to give you BGP 101 lessons, if your going to post something, atleast do enough research to back up your argument. The circumstances of the past 2 weeks were out of our hands, if there was something this bunch of crazy russians could have done, it would have been done. Believe you me!

LikeWhat 12-09-2002 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman


Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

Muhahahah? who are you kidding?

.:Frog:. 12-09-2002 01:55 PM

Tukhman - When will things be stable?

X-treme 12-09-2002 01:57 PM

Hey all,


Sals forgot the answer that he had to edit his post...hahah(retard)

Listen we all know that LWI had a situation this past week and we all know that when someone goes down all the haters come out to play .

The bottom line is thats natural in these case to thrash companies but seriously when is enough.... I understand that people are trying to get buissnees through this situation but honestly it's the wrong approach, you guys should be earning your braggin rights not bad mouthing people at the top....

I saw this thread ever since it developed and honestly nothing but hatters..You guys should be ashamed of your selves acting like little crack heads who have nothing better to do with all this yyayyayyayayayaya come on webbastards have a little respect for your elderly....

picindex 12-09-2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-)

Half of them hating like they know us, more like they know of us. The rest are trying to get some attention, we appreciate all the marketing innovation (LikeWhat?) ;-))))

As to competiton, you guys are all sweated up, most of you can't keep your dick up, still trying to get to the top.

Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

Like I said before you talk too much shit for someone that has a host that can't keep a fucking connection up. I think everyone here hating does not need to know you - your customers and you give us a good idea on what kind of person you are. You lie directly to your customers and on this board.

Your a real professional guy. I want to do business with you!

sync 12-09-2002 02:00 PM

We're using a Foundry Networks BigIron 8000 for our core1 router, and a BigIron 4000 router for our core2 location.

Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet. The amount of CAM entries that need to be created are too much and the interface fails. Foundry Tech support has spent well over 100 hours in the past week to try and determine on how to improve/resolve this but without any luck.

We do not loose hope, even when our vendors tell us there is no solution. We will always be here fighting to keep your connection up. What we tell customers/post on boards does not directly relate to the huge concerted effort in our organization to get your stuff back online.

We're here to stay, and the sooner these problems are resolved, the sooner we can all get back to work and start making $$MoneY$$.

picindex 12-09-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
Ryan,

It aint' bragging if it's true :1orglaugh

So far from what I have seen nothing you have said has been true.

salsbury 12-09-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
We let BGP do the inbound routing for us. AboveNet proved to be a much better provider than Yipes and therefore most (not all) routes were selected over them. Route servers propogate only the selected best route, not all routes available to our subnets. Get on a real router ( not a route server which is a route reflector client ) and do a sh ip bgp xx.xx.xx.xx for our network.

Do we need to give you BGP 101 lessons, if your going to post something, atleast do enough research to back up your argument. The circumstances of the past 2 weeks were out of our hands, if there was something this bunch of crazy russians could have done, it would have been done. Believe you me!

why on earth would routers only show ONE BGP route? that would be retarded. let me show you an example.

here is an excerpt from Yahoo!'s BGP path (IP used for this is 64.58.76.179)

BGP routing table entry for 64.58.76.0/22, version 10253
Paths: (50 available, best #22)
16150 20757 3356 17110
217.75.96.60 from 217.75.96.60 (217.75.96.60)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 16150:65304 16150:65321
6539 3561 17110
216.18.63.137 from 216.18.63.137 (216.18.63.137)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
3549 3561 17110
208.51.113.253 from 208.51.113.253 (207.136.163.27)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 3549:2022 3549:30840
3561 17110
208.172.146.2 from 208.172.146.2 (208.172.146.2)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best

this is just a few out of many. please note that there are at least TWO routes there. 3356->17110 and 3561->17110 . that is level3 and cable and wireless, respectively, to yahoo. note the one that says "best". under your logic, that would be the ONLY one displayed, because it is the current route.

but that is wrong.

route-views.oregon-ix.net is has a very large view of the internet's BGP tables. it shows that LW only has a route advertised by Yipes.

compare this to say.. SexTracker's 11608 AS. tons o routes.

and i call bullshit on your "it's out of our hands" argument. passing the buck isn't gonna do you or your customers or your reputation any good.

apologies to the non-techies here. basically what i'm saying is that LW has one route, presently advertised to the internet at-large, while competitors have a shitton of different routes advertised.

FrankyW 12-09-2002 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by picindex


Like I said before you talk too much shit for someone that has a host that can't keep a fucking connection up. I think everyone here hating does not need to know you - your customers and you give us a good idea on what kind of person you are. You lie directly to your customers and on this board.

Your a real professional guy. I want to do business with you!

Who would WANT to do business with you?

You don't even know what goes on, stop commenting and listen.

:321GFY

salsbury 12-09-2002 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by X-treme
The bottom line is thats natural in these case to thrash companies but seriously when is enough.... I understand that people are trying to get buissnees through this situation but honestly it's the wrong approach
hi X-treme. #1, this is just a web board.

#2, please point out where i'm trying to get business. please? you can't. thank you. try again.

picindex 12-09-2002 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
We're using a Foundry Networks BigIron 8000 for our core1 router, and a BigIron 4000 router for our core2 location.

Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet. The amount of CAM entries that need to be created are too much and the interface fails. Foundry Tech support has spent well over 100 hours in the past week to try and determine on how to improve/resolve this but without any luck.

We do not loose hope, even when our vendors tell us there is no solution. We will always be here fighting to keep your connection up. What we tell customers/post on boards does not directly relate to the huge concerted effort in our organization to get your stuff back online.

We're here to stay, and the sooner these problems are resolved, the sooner we can all get back to work and start making $$MoneY$$.

LOL! You guys need to get a Cisco or if you want to be hardcore a Juniper. This is funny. How many ISPs use Foundry on their side? How many hosts use Foundry to route traffic? No wonder you have so many problems! :)

The only thing Foundry is good for is load balancing and switching.

traffictrader 12-09-2002 02:05 PM

damnit Salsbury! I was sooo gonna use a yakov smirnoff reference, but you beat me to it. in soviet russia board posts you!

salsbury 12-09-2002 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
Despite what it's advertised on www.foundrynet.com this router can not support 999mbps/sec on 1 gigabit interface that is diversely routed to the Internet.
sometimes the cisco tax is worth it, eh man? :)

FrankyW 12-09-2002 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by picindex


LOL! You guys need to get a Cisco or if you want to be hardcore a Juniper. This is funny. How many ISPs use Foundry on their side? How many hosts use Foundry to route traffic? No wonder you have so many problems! :)

The only thing Foundry is good for is load balancing and switching.


AOL and Exodus use Foundry. Do you have anything else intelligent from your moronic ass today? :thumbsup

LikeWhat 12-09-2002 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW


Who would WANT to do business with you?

You don't even know what goes on, stop commenting and listen.

:321GFY

bla bla bla...

picindex 12-09-2002 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW



AOL and Exodus use Foundry. Do you have anything else intelligent from your moronic ass today? :thumbsup

Not sure what AOL uses. Don?t really care.

I know for a fact Exodus uses Cisco routers because I have seen them in several of their data centers. I don?t recall seeing a Foundry. They are certified as a Cisco Powered Network.

sync 12-09-2002 02:20 PM

First off, Exodus is a failing company bought over by Cable and Wireless.

Secondly, they had Foundry BigIron aggregate routers at their New Jersey City facility when I used to do work there over 1 year ago.

Additionally, currently we are advertising our routes out 2 AS's.

6517 + 11846, Yipes / Network Plus respectively.

The reason you see only 1 is because our MFN connection is not up, if it was these problems wouldn't be happening. As for why 11846 is not showing up, that's a good question, but here's our BGP summary to prove what I'm saying:

Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend
64.61.24.149 11846 ESTAB 1h 9m11s 115416 0 8 0
66.7.129.225 6517 ESTAB 2h23m50s 115877 0 7 0

As you can see: 11846 has 8 routes sent to it, meaning we are advertising 8 networks through Network Plus.
And 7 routes sent to 6517, 7 routes advertised through Yipes.

Additionally, as soon as the cross connect is functional we will begin advertising our subnets to/through MFN in addition to these 2.

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Pipecrew 12-09-2002 02:25 PM

Hey Nick when Salsbury loses his job, can you hire him to update galleries for me? :1orglaugh


LikeWhat..... What pussy host are you? too afraid to post in your real name? figured as much

salsbury 12-09-2002 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
The reason you see only 1 is because our MFN connection is not up, if it was these problems wouldn't be happening. As for why 11846 is not showing up, that's a good question, but here's our BGP summary to prove what I'm saying:

Neighbor Address AS# State Time Rt:Accepted Filtered Sent ToSend
64.61.24.149 11846 ESTAB 1h 9m11s 115416 0 8 0
66.7.129.225 6517 ESTAB 2h23m50s 115877 0 7 0

As you can see: 11846 has 8 routes sent to it, meaning we are advertising 8 networks through Network Plus.
And 7 routes sent to 6517, 7 routes advertised through Yipes.

Additionally, as soon as the cross connect is functional we will begin advertising our subnets to/through MFN in addition to these 2.

which network(s) are going through InfoHouse/NP1/11846? i have been hunting around and haven't been able to find it. is it a separate set of netblocks? btw, i am checking non-route-views routers as well.

pipecrew, how's your business handling the downtime? just curious how you stay so cheerful and positive about LW. btw i don't think i'm eligible to work in canada, so i'd have to telecommute. what are your terms?

sync 12-09-2002 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by salsbury


which network(s) are going through InfoHouse/NP1/11846? i have been hunting around and haven't been able to find it. is it a separate set of netblocks? btw, i am checking non-route-views routers as well.

Our main ARIN-delegated subnet is advertised to both/all peers.

LikeWhat 12-09-2002 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Hey Nick when Salsbury loses his job, can you hire him to update galleries for me? :1orglaugh


LikeWhat..... What pussy host are you? too afraid to post in your real name? figured as much

Actually, I'm not a host. I'm just a 'hater'.

FrankyW 12-09-2002 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LikeWhat


Actually, I'm not a host. I'm just a 'hater'.

More like a victim of abortion! :1orglaugh

m0rph3us 12-09-2002 02:40 PM

:glugglug

if anyone need hosting that has uptime and is ALREADY on a 10Gbps network, let me know.

LikeWhat 12-09-2002 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrankyW


More like a victim of abortion! :1orglaugh

Good one 2 pac!

sync 12-09-2002 02:43 PM

Just wanted to be the first to let you know that the local loop issue has been resolved and traffic will now be passing on MFN/AboveNet.

YAY!

So long as these loops stay up and clean we will NOT GO DOWN!


YAY YAY YAY!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

salsbury 12-09-2002 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
Just wanted to be the first to let you know that the local loop issue has been resolved and traffic will now be passing on MFN/AboveNet.

YAY!

So long as these loops stay up and clean we will NOT GO DOWN!


YAY YAY YAY!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

congrats. both routes are announced simultaneously, too.

i wonder if that shit they put in carpets would help, they say it's a dirt repellant. i dunno tho, carpet salesmen are kinda creepy.

funkmaster 12-09-2002 02:47 PM

"if anyone need hosting that has uptime and is ALREADY on a 10Gbps network, let me know."

... show me a single datacenter in LA that hasnīt got 10Gbit !!

Trixel 12-09-2002 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sync
Just wanted to be the first to let you know that the local loop issue has been resolved and traffic will now be passing on MFN/AboveNet.

YAY!

So long as these loops stay up and clean we will NOT GO DOWN!


YAY YAY YAY!:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


hahahahahahah
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m0rph3us 12-09-2002 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
"if anyone need hosting that has uptime and is ALREADY on a 10Gbps network, let me know."

... show me a single datacenter in LA that hasnīt got 10Gbit !!

talk to trixel. It's ONE HOST that has 10Gbps capacity.. not the entire datacenter. Not in LA btw.

Sin_Vraal 12-09-2002 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
"if anyone need hosting that has uptime and is ALREADY on a 10Gbps network, let me know."

... show me a single datacenter in LA that hasnīt got 10Gbit !!

Yea, I guess I got a 10gbps network too HAHAHAH, if I need more bandwidth Gx gives it to me. Show me sustained 10gbps and I'll be impressed... not a foundry with a 10 gige blade.

m0rph3us 12-09-2002 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sin_Vraal


Yea, I guess I got a 10gbps network too HAHAHAH, if I need more bandwidth Gx gives it to me. Show me sustained 10gbps and I'll be impressed... not a foundry with a 10 gige blade.

I was talking about capacity not total usage. 9Gbps GigEs to be exact with 50% usage.

funkmaster 12-09-2002 02:55 PM

http://www.trixel.com/ -> 10 times better than likewhoa ... for sure !!

Pornwolf 12-09-2002 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-)

Half of them hating like they know us, more like they know of us. The rest are trying to get some attention, we appreciate all the marketing innovation (LikeWhat?) ;-))))

As to competiton, you guys are all sweated up, most of you can't keep your dick up, still trying to get to the top.

Now relax, Sals, my little business deal can make you lose a job... don't be stressed up, I'm days away from wrapping it up ;-)

muhahahah

Hey Nick, want a record deal? You are ready for Hot 97.:winkwink:

Fletch XXX 12-09-2002 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tukhman
What's there to respond, bunch of haters and wanna-be's, life's that easy ;-)


Sounds like your clients are the ones complaining no one else.

Is that really what you think of your clients? A bunch of haters?

Your clients come here to complain and thats a response.

hahaha

funnnnnyyy

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