VISA nukes "Sleep" sites.

Tell it to a judge. In US. Not Turkey.

You missed the part where I said "say they are 12"...go back and look at Max's older stuff...he dressed the girls up like 12 year olds and actually had the girls say "Fuck my 12yr old ass mister". Big difference. Ever notice that little disclaimer in front of pornos where it says "no actor or actress is portraying anyone under 18"...guess why that's there?

Who want's to sleep?

When Visa Processes payments for you they ARE law.

I've never seen that! Of course it's been a long time since I actually watched a porn dvd or video tape. But I've never seen that before.

serious truth.

Adult and mainstream movies are different, just deal with it. If you refuse to admit they are different then you are the one with the problem.

You can try to defend any fantasy you want and you can use it is just a fantasy as your argument, it does not mean you will win. We are not talking about court though in this thread. We are talking about Visa compliance talk. They do not have courts nor do I think they have arbitration on what you can or can not sell using them.

You can compare dressing up a 21 year old woman as a child and sleep fantasy very easily. All though both are fantasies, an adult having sex with child is illegal and an adult having sex with someone who is not giving consent prior to the act (revocable at any time) is also illegal.

See:

Sex with child - illegal.
Sex without consent - illegal.

Sleep fantasy can very well be enjoyable fun and a interesting fantasy between a couple. It still does not alter the facts though. I do not agree with this but it is how it is. Though I would be pretty sure that you are also not aware that in many states having sex with someone that is drunk is also rape.

Now nobody is making up useless philosophies nor not defending things. You just CAN NOT defend yourself against Visa compliance policy changes. You want to accept their card, you must play by their rules. So I would read that statement a few times before you tell anyone to leave this industry for not fighting.

While I am at it. You should have no issue with someone posting their thoughts and views even if they do not fit into your tiny little jigsaw puzzle mind. The very same shit your saying needs to be defended is in no way different then peoples comments needing to be defended - yet you want to run them out of this business for having different views than yourself.

*disclaimer - I personally have odd moral lines. I am ok with most all porn, would not produce nor fund several types, would not even view or promote several types. I also would not have a problem if some studio hooked up with some special effects guy and had a scene where a guy was doing a chick doggie style, then chopped her head off with a sword quickly and beginning to skull fuck it during the last few fleeting seconds of her life with her body laying under them.

Holy shit! That means I've never had sex without rape being involved! Looks like I've always been raping and being raped at the same time!

I accidentally read tyranny as "tranny". Was very confused. Ruling with an iron cock?

Me too.
I do not just make this shit up though. Pretty sure I violated the marital rape laws as well.

Dude, I just realized that if that Drunk=Rape thing is in effect...I have raped myself masturbating more times than I care to remember.

fucking doh

You've never had sober sex before?? You might want to see someone about that. ;)

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Neither This Place is a fuckin court, nor i m an advocate, what i only do is reminding to some people here what is their job and they should defend it, even though i doudt Some of those are real Adult Webmasters or at least aware of what does being an Adult webmaster mean.

Lastly i advise You to revise for better arguements to be able to defence Your own opinion rather then trying to prove us how smart guy You are and how sarcastic You can be