hi Justin :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I love watching all of these dumbass affiliate reps say "You can make sales with us!"... that shit is hilarious to me... how many of you are also affiliates? Do you make sales? I am just wondering because 90% of the affiliate reps that cold call me via icq have about as much of a clue as a box of rocks. I wish I had a dollar for every affiliate rep that has tried to convince me that niche X will convert on my niche A SITE.

suprisedddd??

and you didt make any money last 2 months? :)

how you doing

lets just say this whole operation is on life support...

Yeah i need someone whos been there to review what im doing and help me retool my small scale operation. I did get some good tips last night. In my mainstream biz we had mentors and meeting and shit. I didnt care for none of it because i already knew my shit. Ive always done my on thing been independent and outsold or outperformed my peers. In this thing though, ive fallen on my ass and its sore and pissin me off.

It's not just an "easy answer", it's the truth.

Are you saying that anyone who claims to make sales is not being honest?

no im saying theres go to be alot not making sales or making very slow sales but pretend like there not. I think pushing people away from money only makes them want it more and leads even stronger feelings of hate, jealousy, greed. Think organized crime. Yea they were all crooks but the bigger crooks kept the smaller crooks inline by teaching them their trade making them work their way up then eventually the smaller crooks get their own crews and the bigger crooks get even richer. Excluding murder lol this is a smart practice. This is a easy practice in adult and it was applied alot i believe for many of the "big fish" today. Yea there are alot of guys who get in and do their own thing and do it big on their own. Im not saying i cant cus i have done it in other industries, but their is some certain skillsets needed that im learning the long and hard way. :)

Its mostly centered on blogging and static SEO sites, a combination of SEO, kw targeting, and a few other things.. but take a peek at www.insidewebmastering.com , a project set up to help people brand new to the biz. I help in it with a few others who have done rather well in the biz, though warning its centered around hard work and determination .. not just building half a dozen sites and sitting back waiting for the $ to roll in. :)

I understand you are not brand new, and its often harder to help those who have been around for a while because they often can't be helped, but can't hurt to take a look, especially if your sales are as low as you say :)

hey thanks for this if something helps me i will pay it forward im going over now to check it out

fitty ...thanks to those who give useful info and help out it will come back millions over

If you need help, Sausage know as a different name elsewhere, is a good resource. He helped me when I first stared a few years ago.

Keep at it.

thanks man

Try some new shit, search for your niche and see what the top serp spots are pushing.

List these "several reasons."

build 10 blogs per day
in first month you will have about 2 hits per day with 1 hits to your main site
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day(to your main site) = 300 hits in month 1
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day = 300 hits in month 2
10 blogs daily x 2 hits per day = 600 hits in month 3
10 blogs daily x 3 hits per day = 900 hits in month 4
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Keep doing this shit and you will have enough sales :)

true dat. feel sorry for the newbs right now :(

business is horrible here also.

We think, simple logic being, sell something you can't get for free from a tube site... stick to very unique sites on the outer edges of the spectrum. Look for the small, simple and unique stuff that Big Brother doesn't offer for free.

;)

:2 cents:

Cheers mate :) Glad to see things are working out for you ! :)

L.

Instead of trying to make paysite sales, you can sell traffic, pay per click, or $/k traffic, or you can sell datinggold free joins ($3 for a join) I believe.

give us a try, you will make money

I am curious to read them as well :2 cents:

how do you get traffic? what are your sites? do you have traffic? do you have sites?

these threads suck without a proper way to diagnose the issue. you just get the typical trolls and know it alls virtual ballers posting.

Im sure you know this already...
 

Ok:

1. I think if more webmasters knew how to make a real living at anything online (not just porn) there would be less illegal tatics. Notice i said less. There are people who steal and cheat because the love to steal and cheat. But by far most people just want the money. They want their pain to go away. They dont care how they get it. Alot of the content thieves im seeing really are not "webmasters". In the cases of the pornhubs and redtubes of the world, they knew what they were doing and did it for the money (and part of me believes the thrill of the kill). But at least there would be far less copycats because guys already making money would have shunned their practices instead of participating out of desperation to make money(selling links, uploading, sponsors, host, all those with hand in the pot) and while those illegal tubes may have still been successful, there would be far more legal tubes and legal tactics being used. I look at illegal tubes, and wonder "Is this perosn trying to make money?" and realize most of them dont know how they just aquire alot of traffic and get lucky alot. There first dollar i made online was through an illegal and unethical tatic (spam) because i thought thats how people made money.

2. You want to quit someday right? Dont 99% of adult programs have a webmaster referral program? Some of these programs 2 or 3 levels deep? Are their any porn retirement plans? Even if you invest in ventures in mainstream and real world (stocks, real estate, 401k etc) those are all subject to external forces. You cant control them. You CAN control however a network of people doing the work you taught them and earning you cash potentially for life. MLM? yes their are scams but the business model works for those at the top of their own networks. Mary Kay, Avon, Amway they make it work. How? If you work and do what we do you will make money. And the people who want it make money or else those organizations would die.

3. Even in organized crime, does the boss go out and do the work? But does the boss make money? Of course and he makes more money if his organization expands. He gets a cut of eveything. If you showed guys how to do everything wouldnt it be worth it to find a few hundred people who are clones of yourself? Sausage has a nice plan and im checking it out even though im not a total noob. If someone does shit the boss does not like they are out of the crew (or prolly whacked lol). Well in porn someone could go simply start their own network right? Of course, but 95% wont because they dont want to lose the perks of being on the team (traffic, respect, ease of making money as opposed to starting out fresh). People are loyal to cash and the guy who helps them feed their family and allows them to get nice things.

I could go on and on but short version: pick the right people, teach them, and earn. Many of you think you do this and some sponsor have the right idea with affiliate reps but your not following through. It takes hard work and patience to train people. If you dont have time for either this wont work for you, you will just keep "firing" your noobs.
What experience do i have at this? I run a multi-unit tax franchise (2 location)4 months out of year. This is ok money in tax season outside of it not so much :). I can honestly say i havent made a buck since april, lol (loses in porn, other shit). But i can in that business take a person off the street with the basic requirements in intelligence and some
determination to learn to do 90% of all types of tax returns in 5-7 days. Ive heard the phrase "herding cats" but the ones who really want it will seek you out. Why bash them? why shun them away? When a hungry man with no skills begs for bread to feed his family if you turn him away what does he do? Steal? Figuire out the best way to get to his bread (sometimes illegal)? If you give him a little and show him how to make moreisnt that better? How bout giving him a job in your organization so he earns and earns you more since that is one thing you dont have to do? My thoughts on that. Bye now time for me to smoke my meats :eatmouse

Sorry your right about this, i get about 300-500 uniques a day on my domains mostly from forum and links. My biggest issue is i have no se traffic really. I would like to talk to you in private if you have time.

This is a partial strategy of a bigger strategy..... to do one blog takes me like 2 hours to setup with one post, 10 blogs for me would be 20 hours....

Maybe I am over doing it per blog....

Blah... ok, as far as your SE, it's actually pretty easy, make your site relevant to what you are selling, keywords, keywords, keywords! That is the key.

Some useful links are:

Keyword Tool
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

Optimization Checkers
http://www.seocentro.com/tools/searc...-analyzer.html
http://www.seositecheckup.com

"Audience and Demographics"
http://www.quantcast.com
http://www.alexa.com

Understanding META
http://www.searchtools.com/robots/robots-meta.html
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35291
http://www.seochat.com/

GOOD LUCK!
In the end, it all comes down to determination and will to succeed. You'll get it, but everything is a process. Just keep going, that's the important thing if you feel that this profession is your calling, so to speak.
~ta ta

yeah,
Keep your head up and keep piling on!

Any luck yet?

Affiliate rep's and account managers should really have been real affiliates before they get to work as someone who is to support and even teach the affiliates trying to promote the program. This is often not the case though. :)

I see what you tried to do there but those numbers are just extremely off :)

How come you did not make a sale in 2 months?

+1:2 cents:

depends on how many hours you are putting in ..pimp on

no...thanks for the lead on dti looks awesome dont have a domain for it yet though

Im guessing amount and quality of traffic also i had a site hacked that was top 10 on google for a good term i lost all the data from that domain...i had bought it with most of the content still intact and neglected to do a timely backup...remember my statement about learning the long and hard way

Until greed takes over... it's only a matter of time. :2 cents: