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tonyparra 09-04-2009 06:54 PM

fitty ...thanks to those who give useful info and help out it will come back millions over

Altheon 09-05-2009 11:27 AM

If you need help, Sausage know as a different name elsewhere, is a good resource. He helped me when I first stared a few years ago.

alias 09-05-2009 12:32 PM

Keep at it.

tonyparra 09-05-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 16282117)
Keep at it.

thanks man

alias 09-05-2009 06:34 PM

Try some new shit, search for your niche and see what the top serp spots are pushing.

RK 09-05-2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16274466)
True but im sure theres lots making good income i think more webmasters should be willing to "mentor" newbs for several reasons, but of course it has to be good match between the two.

List these "several reasons."

LoveSandra 09-05-2009 10:13 PM

build 10 blogs per day
in first month you will have about 2 hits per day with 1 hits to your main site
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day(to your main site) = 300 hits in month 1
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day = 300 hits in month 2
10 blogs daily x 2 hits per day = 600 hits in month 3
10 blogs daily x 3 hits per day = 900 hits in month 4
---------

Keep doing this shit and you will have enough sales :)

digitaldivas 09-05-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16273878)
I'ts not an easy game for someone starting now

true dat. feel sorry for the newbs right now :(

leg4 09-05-2009 11:29 PM

business is horrible here also.

AlphaSky 09-06-2009 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16273692)
To any programs, having a shitty day. I do get some help from some great people on the board, but this is not working for me right now. How too make money in 2009/2010. Suggestions? Any mentors out there? Wanna profit from my labor? Talk to me you may be suprised :thumbsup

We think, simple logic being, sell something you can't get for free from a tube site... stick to very unique sites on the outer edges of the spectrum. Look for the small, simple and unique stuff that Big Brother doesn't offer for free.

;)

DWB 09-06-2009 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16276889)
I love watching all of these dumbass affiliate reps say "You can make sales with us!"... that shit is hilarious to me... how many of you are also affiliates? Do you make sales? I am just wondering because 90% of the affiliate reps that cold call me via icq have about as much of a clue as a box of rocks. I wish I had a dollar for every affiliate rep that has tried to convince me that niche X will convert on my niche A SITE.

:2 cents:

Sausage 09-06-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Altheon (Post 16281806)
If you need help, Sausage know as a different name elsewhere, is a good resource. He helped me when I first stared a few years ago.

Cheers mate :) Glad to see things are working out for you ! :)

L.

fatfoo 09-06-2009 06:31 AM

Instead of trying to make paysite sales, you can sell traffic, pay per click, or $/k traffic, or you can sell datinggold free joins ($3 for a join) I believe.

DebsDeep 09-06-2009 08:39 AM

give us a try, you will make money

fuzebox 09-06-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RK (Post 16283286)
List these "several reasons."

I am curious to read them as well :2 cents:

Agent 488 09-06-2009 08:49 AM

how do you get traffic? what are your sites? do you have traffic? do you have sites?

these threads suck without a proper way to diagnose the issue. you just get the typical trolls and know it alls virtual ballers posting.

tonyparra 09-06-2009 01:32 PM

Im sure you know this already...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16283286)
List these "several reasons."

Ok:

1. I think if more webmasters knew how to make a real living at anything online (not just porn) there would be less illegal tatics. Notice i said less. There are people who steal and cheat because the love to steal and cheat. But by far most people just want the money. They want their pain to go away. They dont care how they get it. Alot of the content thieves im seeing really are not "webmasters". In the cases of the pornhubs and redtubes of the world, they knew what they were doing and did it for the money (and part of me believes the thrill of the kill). But at least there would be far less copycats because guys already making money would have shunned their practices instead of participating out of desperation to make money(selling links, uploading, sponsors, host, all those with hand in the pot) and while those illegal tubes may have still been successful, there would be far more legal tubes and legal tactics being used. I look at illegal tubes, and wonder "Is this perosn trying to make money?" and realize most of them dont know how they just aquire alot of traffic and get lucky alot. There first dollar i made online was through an illegal and unethical tatic (spam) because i thought thats how people made money.

2. You want to quit someday right? Dont 99% of adult programs have a webmaster referral program? Some of these programs 2 or 3 levels deep? Are their any porn retirement plans? Even if you invest in ventures in mainstream and real world (stocks, real estate, 401k etc) those are all subject to external forces. You cant control them. You CAN control however a network of people doing the work you taught them and earning you cash potentially for life. MLM? yes their are scams but the business model works for those at the top of their own networks. Mary Kay, Avon, Amway they make it work. How? If you work and do what we do you will make money. And the people who want it make money or else those organizations would die.

3. Even in organized crime, does the boss go out and do the work? But does the boss make money? Of course and he makes more money if his organization expands. He gets a cut of eveything. If you showed guys how to do everything wouldnt it be worth it to find a few hundred people who are clones of yourself? Sausage has a nice plan and im checking it out even though im not a total noob. If someone does shit the boss does not like they are out of the crew (or prolly whacked lol). Well in porn someone could go simply start their own network right? Of course, but 95% wont because they dont want to lose the perks of being on the team (traffic, respect, ease of making money as opposed to starting out fresh). People are loyal to cash and the guy who helps them feed their family and allows them to get nice things.

I could go on and on but short version: pick the right people, teach them, and earn. Many of you think you do this and some sponsor have the right idea with affiliate reps but your not following through. It takes hard work and patience to train people. If you dont have time for either this wont work for you, you will just keep "firing" your noobs.
What experience do i have at this? I run a multi-unit tax franchise (2 location)4 months out of year. This is ok money in tax season outside of it not so much :). I can honestly say i havent made a buck since april, lol (loses in porn, other shit). But i can in that business take a person off the street with the basic requirements in intelligence and some
determination to learn to do 90% of all types of tax returns in 5-7 days. Ive heard the phrase "herding cats" but the ones who really want it will seek you out. Why bash them? why shun them away? When a hungry man with no skills begs for bread to feed his family if you turn him away what does he do? Steal? Figuire out the best way to get to his bread (sometimes illegal)? If you give him a little and show him how to make moreisnt that better? How bout giving him a job in your organization so he earns and earns you more since that is one thing you dont have to do? My thoughts on that. Bye now time for me to smoke my meats :eatmouse

tonyparra 09-06-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 16284570)
how do you get traffic? what are your sites? do you have traffic? do you have sites?

these threads suck without a proper way to diagnose the issue. you just get the typical trolls and know it alls virtual ballers posting.

Sorry your right about this, i get about 300-500 uniques a day on my domains mostly from forum and links. My biggest issue is i have no se traffic really. I would like to talk to you in private if you have time.

Badmaash 09-06-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveSandra (Post 16283407)
build 10 blogs per day
in first month you will have about 2 hits per day with 1 hits to your main site
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day(to your main site) = 300 hits in month 1
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day = 300 hits in month 2
10 blogs daily x 2 hits per day = 600 hits in month 3
10 blogs daily x 3 hits per day = 900 hits in month 4
---------

Keep doing this shit and you will have enough sales :)

This is a partial strategy of a bigger strategy..... to do one blog takes me like 2 hours to setup with one post, 10 blogs for me would be 20 hours....

Maybe I am over doing it per blog....

digitaldivas 09-06-2009 04:32 PM

Blah... ok, as far as your SE, it's actually pretty easy, make your site relevant to what you are selling, keywords, keywords, keywords! That is the key.

Some useful links are:

Keyword Tool
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

Optimization Checkers
http://www.seocentro.com/tools/searc...-analyzer.html
http://www.seositecheckup.com

"Audience and Demographics"
http://www.quantcast.com
http://www.alexa.com

Understanding META
http://www.searchtools.com/robots/robots-meta.html
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35291
http://www.seochat.com/

GOOD LUCK!
In the end, it all comes down to determination and will to succeed. You'll get it, but everything is a process. Just keep going, that's the important thing if you feel that this profession is your calling, so to speak.
~ta ta

burntfilm 09-06-2009 04:46 PM

yeah,
Keep your head up and keep piling on!

alias 09-06-2009 04:51 PM

Any luck yet?

Nicky 09-06-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16276889)
I love watching all of these dumbass affiliate reps say "You can make sales with us!"... that shit is hilarious to me... how many of you are also affiliates? Do you make sales? I am just wondering because 90% of the affiliate reps that cold call me via icq have about as much of a clue as a box of rocks. I wish I had a dollar for every affiliate rep that has tried to convince me that niche X will convert on my niche A SITE.

Affiliate rep's and account managers should really have been real affiliates before they get to work as someone who is to support and even teach the affiliates trying to promote the program. This is often not the case though. :)

Nicky 09-06-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveSandra (Post 16283407)
build 10 blogs per day
in first month you will have about 2 hits per day with 1 hits to your main site
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day(to your main site) = 300 hits in month 1
10 blogs daily x 1 hits per day = 300 hits in month 2
10 blogs daily x 2 hits per day = 600 hits in month 3
10 blogs daily x 3 hits per day = 900 hits in month 4
---------

Keep doing this shit and you will have enough sales :)

I see what you tried to do there but those numbers are just extremely off :)

notime 09-06-2009 04:59 PM

How come you did not make a sale in 2 months?

qxm 09-06-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16286067)
I see what you tried to do there but those numbers are just extremely off :)

+1:2 cents:

GAMEFINEST 09-06-2009 05:35 PM

depends on how many hours you are putting in ..pimp on

tonyparra 09-06-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16286041)
Any luck yet?

no...thanks for the lead on dti looks awesome dont have a domain for it yet though

tonyparra 09-06-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16286069)
How come you did not make a sale in 2 months?

Im guessing amount and quality of traffic also i had a site hacked that was top 10 on google for a good term i lost all the data from that domain...i had bought it with most of the content still intact and neglected to do a timely backup...remember my statement about learning the long and hard way

Iron Fist 09-06-2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16285468)
People are loyal to cash and the guy who helps them feed their family and allows them to get nice things.

Until greed takes over... it's only a matter of time. :2 cents:

tonyparra 09-06-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16286738)
Until greed takes over... it's only a matter of time. :2 cents:

true till a certain degree..but i think its more 50-50 than tilted either way


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