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Old 12-06-2002, 03:37 PM   #1
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US Task Force to crack down on adult pornography: READ BETWEEN THE FUCKING LINES

"U.S. Attorney Gregory Van Tatenhove made the announcement Thursday as part of a campaign to crack down on child and hard-core adult pornography"


This is the key statement. CRACK DOWN ON HARD CORE PORNOGRAPHY. They are linking c h i l d p 0 r n to hardcore. Notice how the news media fails to link this.

How can ANYONE here not see this? This industry is about to be shut down.

Hope the Republicans here are happy.


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Task Force Forms To Catch People Targeting Children On Internet

(LEXINGTON, Ky., December 6th, 2002, 11:25 a.m.) -- Law enforcement officials hope to have a task force battling sexual predators who target children on the Internet by early next year.

U.S. Attorney Gregory Van Tatenhove made the announcement Thursday as part of a campaign to crack down on child and hard-core adult pornography.

Ten years ago, Internet child porn and stalking were virtually nil in Kentucky, but in the past 1 1/2 years, federal prosecutors have pressed 25 child-exploitation cases.

The new task force, which will include local, state and federal law enforcement agents, is to be funded by a $300,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Justice, Van Tatenhove said.

Van Tatenhove said he wanted to sound a loud alarm to parents and others in the community about sexual predators, and warned that people should not be lulled into a sense of safety by computer programs that claim to filter out porn sites and chat rooms.

Instead, parents should treat the Internet as the proverbial playground at which children are strictly taught not to talk to strangers, he said.

"This is a playground where we have to be as diligent as we are elsewhere," he said.

The number of children who use the Internet is expected to grow from 24 million in 1999 to 77 million in 2005, Van Tatenhove said. That's all very good for education, but it also poses a threat.

"Criminals will use it to prey on innocent children," he said.

A study in 2000 by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children showed one in five children who used the Internet had been solicited sexually in the previous year; one in four had been sent unwanted sexual pictures; and one in 33 had been aggressively sexually solicited -- by someone who wanted to meet them, who called them or sent them gifts.
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Ahh, the "industry killer" of the week. People have been screaming about this industry being shut down for years, it's still around isn't it?

And yes, i'd rather have a few wacko conservatives than have more of my income taken away to be given to lazy people who don't want to work. Vote Republican
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When do you guys realize that free access to pornography is illegal? The just want to enforce existing laws and don't tell me that this is news to you. It's not only illeagal in the US but in most every country of the world.
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It's all over.

At least for you Americans. Canada will provide safety for web pornographers like it did for slaves.
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I like how they try to lump hardcore porn sites in the same league with people that are sexually propositioning kids on the net. Fucking retards.
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Old 12-06-2002, 04:00 PM   #6
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When do you guys realize that free access to pornography is illegal? The just want to enforce existing laws and don't tell me that this is news to you. It's not only illeagal in the US but in most every country of the world.
i thought it was illegial to PAY for sex in most every country in the world?????????
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It's all over.

At least for you Americans. Canada will provide safety for web pornographers like it did for slaves.
LOL ...

Thats what Canada needs... A great big underground PORN railroad....

Emancipate the Pornographers!
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The new task force, which will include local, state and federal law enforcement agents, is to be funded by a $300,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Justice, Van Tatenhove said.

What they gonna do with $300k???
run an office staffed with 3 morons who can't even connect to the net????
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When do you guys realize that free access to pornography is illegal? The just want to enforce existing laws and don't tell me that this is news to you. It's not only illeagal in the US but in most every country of the world.
gee andi... what the fuck are you talking about? DO you have a coherent thought somewhere?
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Mrpopup, can a kid get into a strip club? Can a kid get into an adult bookstore ?
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Mrpopup, can a kid get into a strip club? Can a kid get into an adult bookstore ?
Maybe you should reread the article...Its what it DOESNT say. The task force is being set up to investigate HARDCORE pornography and EQUATING it with child porn.

By the way...you know you're a Cambodian when...
You often see ex-Khmer rouge war criminals, who still have blood of Khmer people on there hand, who passed as refugee and now are in America or Canada, but don't do anything about it.
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LOL ...

Thats what Canada needs... A great big underground PORN railroad....

Emancipate the Pornographers!

Exactly.

Only we'd all have to pay GST.
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The new task force, which will include local, state and federal law enforcement agents, is to be funded by a $300,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Justice, Van Tatenhove said.

What they gonna do with $300k???
run an office staffed with 3 morons who can't even connect to the net????
lol. They sound like they're really trying to make a dent!
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The new task force, which will include local, state and federal law enforcement agents, is to be funded by a $300,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Justice, Van Tatenhove said.

What they gonna do with $300k???
run an office staffed with 3 morons who can't even connect to the net????
This is 1st thing that came 2 mind for me also. The porn business is not any place... Hell you have all kinds of ex-dot com'ers tryiny or getting into it.
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If they were "linking" the two, they wouldnt be calling it two seperate things. They are just cracking down on both.

A link would be them implying all hardcore porn is child porn.
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If they were "linking" the two, they wouldnt be calling it two seperate things. They are just cracking down on both.

A link would be them implying all hardcore porn is child porn.
Obviously you have a problem linking implicit sufficiency with explicit necessity.

Go back in your hole.
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Mrpopup, can a kid get into a strip club? Can a kid get into an adult bookstore ?
I've read your posts and it's pretty obvious that you hate the U.S. constitution. You sound like someone who really hates America. Are you even from the U.S.?
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I've read your posts and it's pretty obvious that you hate the U.S. constitution. You sound like someone who really hates America. Are you even from the U.S.?
You never answered his question.
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Is the sky falling??? Again???
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As American as apple pie. I'm just a realist though. Basic logic tells me that if a kid can't go into a stripclub, but can get into hardcorecumsuckers.com theres a bit of a problem.

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After a dozen or so 'concerned' politicians say they spent the money for the cause, "cause they wanted to pad their bank accounts", there'll be about $20 left of that little bit of money that actually goes toward the objective.. as with any other money used to do anything with..
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You never answered his question.
Did blacks used to be slaves? Did women used to be able to vote? Did America used to be part of Britain? Did it used to be illegal to say the words fuck and hahahaha in public performances?

Free speech should be more important to you than money. I know it probably isn't to you, but luckily for you there are people who do not worship the dollar above all else.
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Is the sky falling??? Again???
The sky fell September 11th.

BTW, DO you think Al-Queda was responsible for the Dollars4All.com scandal?
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The sky fell September 11th.

BTW, DO you think Al-Queda was responsible for the Dollars4All.com scandal?
No. That was the John Birch Society's play.
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As American as apple pie. I'm just a realist though. Basic logic tells me that if a kid can't go into a stripclub, but can get into hardcorecumsuckers.com theres a bit of a problem.

This is the type of logic that makes me wonder if we should patent stupidity and sell it. Bound to make bucketfulls from ColKurtz.

Moron can't even figure out the discrepancy between ONLINE and OFFLINE.

"Gee um lets let the government do everything for us"

Read up on your American history bub.... What's happening now in the upper echelons of the executive branch of your government mirrors the very reasons America was born/split from Britain
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expect lots of signups, these guys will use the $300,000 to join sites and see what its about
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What bothers me is.. they want to kill the legit porn, but their actual arguement is about child predators.. and the ratio of kids that are approached over the net by these predators.. this has NOTHING to do with porn on the net.. this is chat room and email bullshit. If all of the porn vanished tomorrow, the predators would still be there, doing the same thing..

Get rid of all chatrooms and email and their problem would be solved. and give child pornographers an automatic death sentence. If they want to fight the real problems.. then fight the problems and quit skirting around it by trying to make legit porn appear to be the source of all of the problems.

The net isn't a babysitter.. parents wouldn't let their kids walk down a dark alley in an inner city at night, but they seem to have no problem letting them surf the net at will and pay no attention to what they're seeing, or who their chatting with...
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The net isn't a babysitter.. parents wouldn't let their kids walk down a dark alley in an inner city at night, but they seem to have no problem letting them surf the net at will and pay no attention to what they're seeing, or who their chatting with...
Exactly. It seems that with some parents, the internet is just like TV or something. They have no concept of what's going on and aren't interested in taking the responsibility to find out.
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how does one make money from children visiting porn sites?
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Get rid of all chatrooms and email and their problem would be solved. and give child pornographers an automatic death sentence. If they want to fight the real problems.. then fight the problems and quit skirting around it by trying to make legit porn appear to be the source of all of the problems.
Your argument is circular. Banning chatrroms and email doesnt do anything...

I tend to subscribe to the theory of thought that we should be preventing the existence of reasons that people like k/p in the first place.
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The same way as those robot chat spammers, dialers
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Your argument is circular. Banning chatrroms and email doesnt do anything...

I tend to subscribe to the theory of thought that we should be preventing the existence of reasons that people like k/p in the first place.
The argument isn't at all circular.. The bulk of the speal dealt with child predators and their desire to approach children.. this is done through email and chat rooms..

Now.. how can you prevent the existence of reasons that people like k/p? They like it because there is something bad wrong with their brain.. and this is something that is as easy to correct as trying to locate the 'mind'..
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How to prevent cp on the net?

its called parents doing their fucking jobs

i am so sick of the government trying to raise
children,, they need to start cracking down on
sorry ass parents

i remember on the news their were parents pissed
because they had pay fines/jail if their kids skipped
school,,

ahh duh do your fucking job and be a parent
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The problem is that our government fails recognize that there is no "right" to internet access.

The parents bought the fucking computer and are the ones paying for internet access.

It's akin to taking your child, dropping him off on Bourbon Street, and then complaining about what he was exposed to.
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The new task force, which will include local, state and federal law enforcement agents, is to be funded by a $300,000 grant from the U.S. Department of Justice, Van Tatenhove said.

What they gonna do with $300k???
run an office staffed with 3 morons who can't even connect to the net????
Exactly! $300K is peanuts and will pay for about 6 agents. If that's all there is, it's a token effort.

Actually, it'll pay for aboiut 4 agents and an office.
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How to prevent cp on the net?

its called parents doing their fucking jobs

i am so sick of the government trying to raise
children,, they need to start cracking down on
sorry ass parents

i remember on the news their were parents pissed
because they had pay fines/jail if their kids skipped
school,,

ahh duh do your fucking job and be a parent
Nahh.. they'd rather blame others for their inability to be parents.. They'd rather sue McDonald's for making their kids fat.. Sue game makers for making their kids kill.. and of course.. porn is the root and reason for so many things..
It's strange that these do-good politicians turn a blind eye to the hate sites and the cult sites.. the REAL problem sites for kids.. Perhaps parents should be more informed about these sites and maybe they'll see that porn is at the bottom of the list when it comes to sites that have a definitely negative impact on their kids..
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If they were "linking" the two, they wouldnt be calling it two seperate things. They are just cracking down on both.

A link would be them implying all hardcore porn is child porn.
in politics and propaganda mentioning two things in the same sentence is linking.. so that when you hear one you draw the moral equivalent on the other... that should be obvious.. drop the semantics.

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I think people fail to realize how much sick kid P really is out there.

and not saying I hold this knowledge, I just know how easy it is while surfing to run into crap like that.
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How to prevent cp on the net?

its called parents doing their fucking jobs

i am so sick of the government trying to raise
children,, they need to start cracking down on
sorry ass parents

i remember on the news their were parents pissed
because they had pay fines/jail if their kids skipped
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ahh duh do your fucking job and be a parent

um cp on the net has nothing to do with parenting...

if you're going to break out the "be a better parent" phrase, at use use it properly...


child predators have always existed in society and we've educated our kids about it....yet, we haven't done a very good job at educating them as to the dangers of online strangers...

while it easy to toss out the "be a proper parent" phrase, a lot of parents AREN'T doing it....should they be? yes, are they? no...so, this is where society has to help as well...it may suck and not fair, but life isn't fair, deal with it...what we'd like to ideally see in society and what exists are two different things...

but it doesn't have anything to do with cp.......
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Yep notice the whole articule was about child porn and child exploitation, but they THREW that Hardcore pornography sites right next to child porn JUST FOR GOOD MEASURE. I had telling people I work in porno cause so many think "Internet Porn = Child porn" its fucking drummed into there heads. I mean my Mother still can't get it out of her head about what I do and worries that i'm doing child porn shit cause she sees it on the tv all the time and thinks thats what I do or that I might do it.

They can't shut us down, but they can make life hard for us, I mean if bush boy really wants he can lay down some heavy enough shit on us. The sky an't falling though, so don't pack your bags for Amsterdamn just yet

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"U.S. Attorney Gregory Van Tatenhove made the announcement Thursday
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Gregory Van Tatenhove is not the US attorney general. John Ashhahaha is.

Gregory Van Tatenhove is the attorney general for the state of Kentuky.

This is political grandstanding. Unclench your butt cheeks. If you're worried, put nudity and hardcore content behind a credit card or AVS as is should be anyway.
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:01 PM   #43
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Maybe you should reread the article...Its what it DOESNT say. The task force is being set up to investigate HARDCORE pornography and EQUATING it with child porn.

By the way...you know you're a Cambodian when...
You often see ex-Khmer rouge war criminals, who still have blood of Khmer people on there hand, who passed as refugee and now are in America or Canada, but don't do anything about it.
What it the url to the article?

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Old 12-06-2002, 07:03 PM   #44
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This is Grandstanding, that's all it is. Some jackass in our government makes a statement, gets a limited amount of funding, and staffs an office for a year. The only thing that gets done is a ton of paperwork is generated.

If the US Goverment wanted to do something about porn, the first thing they would do is shut down newsgroups - And that will never happen.

Even if they did run all of us pornographers out of the US the only thing that will change is that BILLIONS of US dollars will flow to a different country. Just because the US demands it doesn't mean that the rest of the world will follow. Porn doesn't come from the US; It comes from everywhere.
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:03 PM   #45
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"U.S. Attorney Gregory Van Tatenhove made the announcement Thursday
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Gregory Van Tatenhove is not the US attorney general. John Ashhahaha is.

Gregory Van Tatenhove is the attorney general for the state of Kentuky.

This is political grandstanding. Unclench your butt cheeks. If you're worried, put nudity and hardcore content behind a credit card or AVS as is should be anyway.
LOL ok I was wondering about that I would think that this article referes to Kentucky not the enitre nation. I cant say for sure because I never did see a url to the article to read it

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Old 12-06-2002, 07:05 PM   #46
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um cp on the net has nothing to do with parenting...

if you're going to break out the "be a better parent" phrase, at use use it properly...


child predators have always existed in society and we've educated our kids about it....yet, we haven't done a very good job at educating them as to the dangers of online strangers...

while it easy to toss out the "be a proper parent" phrase, a lot of parents AREN'T doing it....should they be? yes, are they? no...so, this is where society has to help as well...it may suck and not fair, but life isn't fair, deal with it...what we'd like to ideally see in society and what exists are two different things...

but it doesn't have anything to do with cp.......
but.. cp on the net has only a bit to do with child predators.. These sickos kidnap, rape and kill.. and yes .. some use kids for porn, but there is much more to them than just cp.
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:15 PM   #47
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Just in case anyone is interested in the Laws in Kentucky regarding porn

http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/531-00/CHAPTER.HTM

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Even if they did run all of us pornographers out of the US the only thing that will change is that BILLIONS of US dollars will flow to a different country. Just because the US demands it doesn't mean that the rest of the world will follow. Porn doesn't come from the US; It comes from everywhere.

uh.. Australia and the Netherlands can't even legalize marijuana or we'll face partial economic sanctions from the US. If they want to fuck you they will..
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:17 PM   #49
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People in Kentucky actually have telephones? I thought other than the horse crowd the entire state was still living in the 1930s...
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:18 PM   #50
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i don't think they care about the missing revenue.. ideology means more than pulling America out of recession. (not that porn could do that of course.. but you get the drift.. loss of revenue and jobs etc.)
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