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  • Realpeachez
    Chief Funstigator
    • May 2008
    • 189

    #1

    Retention and how to raise the % ??

    Hi, I am just curious if any of you have any proven methods of raising your retention %.
    Members contest, constant quality content ect.. are things I am doing but apparently I'm missing something because its been dropping the last couple of months.
    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    Thanks
    M

    ICQ; 397601388
    SKYPE; Matthewkellam
  • brand0n
    been very busy
    • Nov 2002
    • 26983

    #2
    heavy member interaction.

    invite the members to email the models. have the models respond to all emails they get, and be honest. dont tell them you are into water sports when you are not. they catch you in a lie, gone.

    updates. you have to update all the time.

    webcam shows. guys want to see these girls on cam a lot. make sure they set a time and a date and show up for it. guys get pissed when they ditch out on what ever to see this broad and she isnt there.

    build myspace/facebook/twitters and have the girls update those as if they were there real ones.

    fuck with this current economy id have a fucking phone number they could call and talk to the models for an hour, 5 min calls per person 2 nights out of the week.

    the more interaction the models have with the buyers the longer they will be buyers
    want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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    • Profits of Doom
      Monster Rain
      • Feb 2004
      • 4978

      #3
      I think you need to get Peachez to do more than just give blowjobs to keep your members interested. I sold a blog not too long ago that had a few posts promoting her, and there were a TON of comments from annoyed surfers saying they were tired of the blowjobs and wanting to know when she was finally going to fuck on camera...
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      • Realpeachez
        Chief Funstigator
        • May 2008
        • 189

        #4
        Thanks for the info, Guys i appreciate it. Gotta get some cam software so I can run the cam shows in the members area without signing through a company. any suggestions. 123Flashchat is all Ive found so far not sure about them though

        ICQ; 397601388
        SKYPE; Matthewkellam

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        • magmamoose
          Registered User
          • Jul 2009
          • 55

          #5
          Originally posted by Profits of Doom
          I think you need to get Peachez to do more than just give blowjobs to keep your members interested. I sold a blog not too long ago that had a few posts promoting her, and there were a TON of comments from annoyed surfers saying they were tired of the blowjobs and wanting to know when she was finally going to fuck on camera...
          i kinda agree. i promote on my smaller blogs and generate a few hits, but the feedback suggests that the people want more. i guess its a fine line. but to keep people paying its all about trying new things and keeping members feeling special.. however you choose to do so is up to you
          icq: 591405005

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          • Realpeachez
            Chief Funstigator
            • May 2008
            • 189

            #6
            well, I know that the hardcore B/G not coming anytime soon, However we are already filming G/G Hardcore for the first time ever. I plan on releasing it soon but I have a bit of planning to do first. Im thinking this is gonna be a huge step for her Ill let everyone know, Im gonna have a bunch of tools for it so we can all make some money !

            ICQ; 397601388
            SKYPE; Matthewkellam

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            • EscortBiz
              Fuck Checks, CASH only!
              • May 2002
              • 19422

              #7
              A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

              After many many years in the business here is what I found:

              Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

              These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

              The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

              January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

              February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
              enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

              March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

              April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

              May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

              Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

              June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

              July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

              Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
              Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

              Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
              Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

              Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

              Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

              Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

              The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

              This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

              DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

              I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

              The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.

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              • Phallus Fondue
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2009
                • 418

                #8
                damn good post eb.

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                • epitome
                  So Fucking Lame
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 12156

                  #9
                  escrotbiz...you hit the nail on the head. I am one of those people. Even if it costs me $5 extra per month for non-recurring, I will pay it. I want to remain in charge of who gets my money and when. If there is a workaround, I will exploit it.

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                  • Mutt
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 34431

                    #10
                    grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat post EB

                    alot of PPS boys will laugh at it of course but they're in a different business
                    I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                    • BV
                      wtf
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 10914

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EscortBiz
                      A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

                      After many many years in the business here is what I found:

                      Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

                      These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

                      The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

                      January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

                      February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
                      enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

                      March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

                      April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

                      May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

                      Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

                      June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

                      July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

                      Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
                      Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

                      Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
                      Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

                      Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

                      Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

                      Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

                      The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

                      This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

                      DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

                      I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

                      The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.
                      shhhh, tmi

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                      • Phallus Fondue
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 418

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BV
                        shhhh, tmi
                        how is sharing how to retain members tmi? should that not be a shared goal for most webmasters. people around here are bitching about loosing money to tubes, sales are down, making less money, on and on and you say shh to something that could help people make sites better overall. it is not like the information changes anything as far as your sites bottom line, unless you send traffic to other revshare programs and then you should want them to know this.

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                        • NaughtyRob
                          Two fresh affiliate progs
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 29602

                          #13
                          Fantastic insight by EB.
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                          • born2blog
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1801

                            #14
                            this was already mentioned but weekly live cam shows and lots of interaction certainly helps
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                            • UrgeRick
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 47

                              #15
                              Great Fucking Post! Thats what Im talking about. Genuine informative...Damn! I Love this place.
                              UrgeRick

                              www.UrgeCash.com
                              www.UrgeAlliance.com

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                              • Rochard
                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 75733

                                #16
                                Originally posted by brand0n
                                heavy member interaction.

                                invite the members to email the models. have the models respond to all emails they get, and be honest. dont tell them you are into water sports when you are not. they catch you in a lie, gone.

                                updates. you have to update all the time.

                                webcam shows. guys want to see these girls on cam a lot. make sure they set a time and a date and show up for it. guys get pissed when they ditch out on what ever to see this broad and she isnt there.

                                build myspace/facebook/twitters and have the girls update those as if they were there real ones.

                                fuck with this current economy id have a fucking phone number they could call and talk to the models for an hour, 5 min calls per person 2 nights out of the week.

                                the more interaction the models have with the buyers the longer they will be buyers
                                What he said.
                                Herschel Savage
                                Brooklyn, NY

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                                • Rochard
                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 75733

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                  A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

                                  After many many years in the business here is what I found:

                                  Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

                                  These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

                                  The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

                                  January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

                                  February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
                                  enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

                                  March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

                                  April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

                                  May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

                                  Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

                                  June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

                                  July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

                                  Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
                                  Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

                                  Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
                                  Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

                                  Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

                                  Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

                                  Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

                                  The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

                                  This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

                                  DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

                                  I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

                                  The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.
                                  This is good advice too really. Nice.
                                  Herschel Savage
                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                  • Realpeachez
                                    Chief Funstigator
                                    • May 2008
                                    • 189

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for the info its very helpful.
                                    Im gonna test this and see how it works for us

                                    ICQ; 397601388
                                    SKYPE; Matthewkellam

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                                    • BV
                                      wtf
                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 10914

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Phallus Fondue
                                      how is sharing how to retain members tmi? should that not be a shared goal for most webmasters. people around here are bitching about loosing money to tubes, sales are down, making less money, on and on and you say shh to something that could help people make sites better overall. it is not like the information changes anything as far as your sites bottom line, unless you send traffic to other revshare programs and then you should want them to know this.

                                      lol
                                      why help your competition?

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                                      • NemesisEnforcer
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 2122

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Realpeachez
                                        Thanks for the info its very helpful.
                                        Im gonna test this and see how it works for us
                                        Ultimately, you should ask your members. They have the answers.
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                                        Did you ever notice: When you put the 2 words 'The' and 'IRS' together it spells 'Theirs.'

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                                        • Hank_Heartland
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 3987

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                          A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

                                          After many many years in the business here is what I found:

                                          Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

                                          These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

                                          The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

                                          January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

                                          February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
                                          enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

                                          March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

                                          April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

                                          May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

                                          Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

                                          June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

                                          July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

                                          Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
                                          Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

                                          Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
                                          Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

                                          Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

                                          Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

                                          Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

                                          The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

                                          This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

                                          DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

                                          I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

                                          The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.
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                                          • DonovanTrent
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 968

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Phallus Fondue
                                            how is sharing how to retain members tmi? should that not be a shared goal for most webmasters. people around here are bitching about loosing money to tubes, sales are down, making less money, on and on and you say shh to something that could help people make sites better overall. it is not like the information changes anything as far as your sites bottom line, unless you send traffic to other revshare programs and then you should want them to know this.
                                            Thinning the herd, that's why.
                                            Donovan Trent

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                                            • Twig
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2005
                                              • 1949

                                              #23
                                              Great post EB.

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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

                                                After many many years in the business here is what I found:

                                                Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

                                                These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

                                                The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

                                                January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

                                                February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
                                                enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

                                                March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

                                                April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

                                                May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

                                                Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

                                                June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

                                                July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

                                                Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
                                                Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

                                                Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
                                                Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

                                                Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

                                                Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

                                                Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

                                                The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

                                                This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

                                                DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

                                                I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

                                                The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.
                                                Summed up nicely.
                                                Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                Enough Said.

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                                                  • Ice
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                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 26053

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                    A while ago I made a post on the rebill topic

                                                    After many many years in the business here is what I found:

                                                    Many people will cancel within minutes of the join, they will cancel even before they log into the members area, tons of people hate the word "automatic billing" or "recurring billing". For those types of people you can have 5 million porn movies in your members area they will still cancel.

                                                    These people hate rebills so much that if they have an option to join a site for 29.95 Recurring every 30 days and 31.95 No rebills, they will sometimes choose the 31.95 just to make sure its a one time charge and that they dont have to worry about canceling.

                                                    The best rebills come to sites that have a history of constant updates, here is how some sites operate:

                                                    January: surfer joins your site cancels right away, yet he loves the amount of content and sees updates

                                                    February: He tried to login but his membership expired so he buys another membership for 30 days, he doesnt trust you just yet so he cancels again, he logs in allot
                                                    enjoys the content and sees new content all the time.

                                                    March: Login expires, this time thou he trusts you more, he says wait "im anyway logging in every few days let me buy the 50 dollar or 70 dollar 3 mo. option save some money and be less annoyed when im in the jerking off mode not to be able to login" or he says "ill cancel if they stop updating, but for now let me let the membership run as its easier than rejoining" (if you have a membership that is 39.95 to join and 29.95 rebill this can push a few not to cancel given they trust you as there is a financial motivation for them as well).

                                                    April: You continue updating hes happy your happy, he trusts you more he might check out other companies you mention in your members area etc.

                                                    May: You decide fuck updating, you read on GFY it doesnt matter at all

                                                    Mid may: You post to confirm that updates and exclusive content dont matter

                                                    June: Your member sees no update, cock in hand hes frantic he emails you "what happend to the update" you ignore, he cancels

                                                    July: More members cancel and those with longer memberships dont repurchase memberships, you lose trust, and many will never trust you again.

                                                    Aug. You post that: Rebills suck and ccbill scrubs too hard
                                                    Mid Aug You need info on your own merchant account

                                                    Sep: You lower your membership price, not understanding that if people trust your site they will pay a few bucks more and that money is not the top issue for porn even in this economy.
                                                    Sep: you get some software and some script or use a biller script to offer them a low price not to cancel or some deal, you dont understand that at that point even paying 5 cents for your site is too much for them, they already have all your old stuff on their HD.

                                                    Oct: Because there is no new content on your site by now lots of your old stuff is all over the tubes, you make it easy to find because you title each set with a label like "Milf gets fucked in outback steakhouse" followed by the talents real stage name.

                                                    Nov: you throw a real update up but you dont understand that its like starting all over again

                                                    Dec. your make a post that because of the holiday season approaching and the new things you are involved in your are selling your business, you expect to sell it for 10x what the market will pay for it, 100 people waste your time acting as serious buyers, 100 other people offer to run the site for you in exchange for a %.

                                                    The above is very typical in this business and has been for a while, id like to believe that updates and exclusive content dont matter, I mean it would save me a shitload of money and time if id never have to update but in these days especially in these days unique updates do matter.

                                                    This makes the affiliates life easier too, because if your site is trusted then when the affiliate gets a gallery somewhere or some other promo and a old member of yours comes across it and its a new set that gets him excited, it will be easier to convert as you already have this surfers trust.

                                                    DRM and Anything you can do to protect your movies in these days is a must too, back in the day I pulled DRM as it was a nightmare support wise, many where using Windows Media 8 or lower etc, now with most people have windows media 9 or greater and almost everyone has the ability to stream flash you will get less complaints from members, in addition that one clip that they loves or 5 clips they jerk off too all the time wont work after their membership runs up, and in many cases they will rejoin just for those especially if they see new content on your site as well.

                                                    I wish it would be easier to find new faces for my sites, on my site tushymodels.com there is a reason I pay $750 for a model referral, its because the best content will still always be with talent that hasn't been seen in 200 online movies doing the same thing shes doing in your movies.

                                                    The problem is that with the net girls can do some hooking without a pimp and make in a day what porn would pay them shooting for 3 days, making it harder to find hot girls for decent prices.
                                                    I love reading your posts!

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