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Wasn't responding to you, just adding sauce to the mix. Read up on what I posted, you'll see it's quite an advantageous thing to do.

In addition to the existing deduction. And the tax cuts on top of it. :winkwink:

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An easy way to do it would be to simply allow us to deduct our medical expenses. If we spend $100 on co-pays during the year, that's $100 deduction on our taxes. If we get unlucky and end up with $10,000 in medical bills, we have a $10,000 deduction. We allow for deductions on so much stuff that it seems silly that we don't have a system that lets us deduct our medical expenses.

P.S. I know there is a deduction out there but you have to meet some specific qualifications.

I like pie

Yeah be self employeed. I deduct what I pay and what I pay for my son. Why because I can because I actually read the tax code.

As far as getting to deduct all your medical bills? Why? Since when is getting sick a reason not to pay taxes? I can see if that was allowed millions of people suddenly getting "sick"

We allow people to write off their moving expenses, mortage interest, student loan interest, charitible donations, and much more. Don't see why it's a stretch to write off medical expenses.

:: cough cough :: hey doc, I'm sick, I think I need a $100k procedure. What say I kick you back some in order to "do" the procedure?

You think there's a fraud problem now, wait 'til you see what people would try to pull with THAT idea.

While deductions are nice, it doesn't get to the root of the problem which is that health care is getting so expensive a lot of people can't afford it or they can't afford health insurance unless it is paid for by their employer.

So writing it all off would be good for some people, if you don't have the money to pay the bill in the first place, writing it off doesn't really help you much.

You must be the only 1 in 250 million. Even Tim Geithner can't read that shit.

I was told by my accountant that I could only write of medical expenses if they made up a certain percentage of my income or higher. From what I understand any self employed person can write off 100% of the cost of health insurance premiums, but other things like costs of prescriptions or any other medical costs have to reach 7.5% of your income before you can write them off.

Right-wing extremist? lol, you actually buy into that bullshit? Damn you people are so sad... :Oh crap

Most people in this country who understand what is going on hate both of the stupid ass Republican and Democrat parties equally...

It's a deduction. You still have to pay that $100,000 for the procedure to be able to write it off. Getting unnecessary procedures is not going to save you any money.

Amen. They are the same.

I got so pissed off while reading NYT the other day.

Some old lady in Florida was saying that she doesn't want anything to change because it will lower her level of coverage with Medicare. She said that old people need it more than the next person.

Ain't that grand. Apparently, we're supposed to keep the old people alive, but the young people like me, who may have cancer, should have no way to get health insurance. It's OK if I die off so long as she gets to continue enjoying her retirement in Florida. She should have every right to get taxpayers to pay for her health care though.

I have only wished death on a very few people in my life. That lady was one of them.

You know, of course, that the welfare cases are already getting free health care. I mean, they've been pretty much getting free everything all along :1orglaugh

It's the folks who got shit jobs that we're talking about. Particularly the ones who were downsized or offshored out of good jobs and now find themselves barely able to make the mortgage payment. Those are the people with no insurance.

lol, this board is a fucking trip. Amazing that you had to even explain that...:Oh crap

There are some pretty good ideas in here from both sides. You would think if a bipartisan group of citizens (not a lobby) put together a proposal and brought it to each of their representatives, we might see what kind of reaction we could get.

I'll do you one better, I believe 20/20 ran a story about a bunch of old people in some retirement resort in Florida, and this was not a nursing home. These were people with money who were living comfortably. They all visited the doctor as often as allowed by Medicare, to the point where one of them actually said that going to the doctor was a social event for them.

Read this, it made my blood boil just a bit. And you Stossel haters, don't skip it just because it's Stossel. Give it a whirl.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/s...7522306&page=1

Medicare 34 trillion in the hole
Social Security $4.6 trillion but will start rising rapidly very soon.


Not only is this plan not the same Health Care plan Congress receives. Congress/Administration/Presidents etc past present and future are specifically excluded from the bills.

The man's a true American.
Duke

Aside from the " cliché " , can you elaborate why you say so ?

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He screams yet has nothing to say? I'm American, I don't act that way. Or am I not a "true" American?

Pisses me off more than anything. It's so fucking shady.

Um... where exactly did you get that information... I didn't read it in any of the bills. Are you repeating something you heard from your village idiot?

You can't compare a public option to Medicare or Social Security because it's not an entitlement program. It's like the post office. People will still have to pay premiums and it will be a GSE.

Sean Hannity weighs in

"National Socialism is what we see now in this country and in out lives..".. what a fucking idiot. Comparing Nazi Germany and 2009 USA.

"Free doctor's visit..?"

Unlike illegal aliens and welfare queens, the guy actually EARNED his health care defending our country.

You should be ashamed.

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its sad they get these people all worked up to go after their own best interests. Also like it or not alot of people are pissed we have a black president. All this he is taking all our freedoms away really? Obama signed a bill allowing people to carry guns in parks.That seems like a new freedom to me.

Just drag them kicking and screaming like a 2 year old to a dentist.

They dont know whats good for them either.

For once I agree with something you've said. I guess there is a first for everything.

:thumbsup:thumbsup i half expected him to say " springfield highschool football rules" at the end

I dislike both parties and politicians in general, but over the last 20 years the Republican party has continually pushed themselves to the far extreme right. They have become a party not of ideas on how to make this country better, but a party reduced to fear and hate mongering.

I'm a independent but I typically vote democratic, but I damn sure don't see the same constant hate mongering out of the Dems as I do the Republicans. Sure there might be some morons here and there but nothing like you see with the Republicans with the constant shit like purple heart bandaids, and calling every Democrat a socialist whom wants to ruin the country.

They have just gone too far off the deep end and I'm a pretty damn tolerant person. At this point in time the Republican party has gone so far over the edge there is just no reasoning with them anymore. I consider that extremist.

I actually hoped that the ass spanking they took this last election would show them they have gone off track, but instead they are getting worse and further out of touch with reality. We need a solid 2 or 3 party system, but the Repub's aren't solid anymore.

Well Democrats right now are following very socialist ideals... they've been easing into that for quite some time now. That's not an opinion either, that's a fact.

It's not a fact... I think you had better study up on socialism because you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm sorry what? I'm not a Republican or a Democrat either but the Democrats have crossed the line far more than the Republicans, from the original party intentions (I'm generalizing here for obvious reasons)...

Democrats used to promote social liberties and restrict economic freedom...
Republicans used to promote economic freedom and restrict social liberties...

Democrats now are pushing harder and harder on restricting economic freedoms via increased taxes to fund a variety of programs that the US Government really doesn't have the authority to do... Their ideals and intentions are very much Socialist in nature and they are spending cash at an alarming rate! They are changing US laws to fit their own morals and values... that's just wrong.

Republicans now (NeoCons) are pushing for restricted economic freedoms in a different way. They are trying to tighten the US Gov's grip on the capitalist market via regulations. They are not however trying to increase taxes...

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i'm confused on how the banks were nationalized and no one said a thing, but as soon as the government starts trying to give medical to everyone in the country, it's 'socialism'

newsflash: caring for the elderly, social assistance, food stamps are all forms of socialism. you guys really badly need to put down the propaganda and start reading the facts for yourselves.

prescott bush got in serious trouble doing big business with the nazis

"newsflash: caring for the elderly, social assistance, food stamps are all forms of socialism. you guys really badly need to put down the propaganda and start reading the facts for yourselves."

And I don't agree with any of them, take that! As they are all forms of socialism! You are absolutely right! And I never said we were socialists or Demos were socialist. Only that they are following and trying to push through socialist ideals... that's a big difference.

I don't go around throwing big ol Socialist and Fascist stamps in broad sweeping statements like many people do. I just point out that laws and regulations and whatnot that are being passed are very Socialist in nature, and that's a fact :P

I think when people accuse the government of 'indoctrinating' their kids they are probably flat earth home schoolers teaching their kids from those text books that show Jesus riding a T-Rex.