The man's a true American.
Duke

Aside from the " cliché " , can you elaborate why you say so ?

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He screams yet has nothing to say? I'm American, I don't act that way. Or am I not a "true" American?

Pisses me off more than anything. It's so fucking shady.

Um... where exactly did you get that information... I didn't read it in any of the bills. Are you repeating something you heard from your village idiot?

You can't compare a public option to Medicare or Social Security because it's not an entitlement program. It's like the post office. People will still have to pay premiums and it will be a GSE.

Sean Hannity weighs in

"National Socialism is what we see now in this country and in out lives..".. what a fucking idiot. Comparing Nazi Germany and 2009 USA.

"Free doctor's visit..?"

Unlike illegal aliens and welfare queens, the guy actually EARNED his health care defending our country.

You should be ashamed.

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its sad they get these people all worked up to go after their own best interests. Also like it or not alot of people are pissed we have a black president. All this he is taking all our freedoms away really? Obama signed a bill allowing people to carry guns in parks.That seems like a new freedom to me.

Just drag them kicking and screaming like a 2 year old to a dentist.

They dont know whats good for them either.

For once I agree with something you've said. I guess there is a first for everything.

:thumbsup:thumbsup i half expected him to say " springfield highschool football rules" at the end

I dislike both parties and politicians in general, but over the last 20 years the Republican party has continually pushed themselves to the far extreme right. They have become a party not of ideas on how to make this country better, but a party reduced to fear and hate mongering.

I'm a independent but I typically vote democratic, but I damn sure don't see the same constant hate mongering out of the Dems as I do the Republicans. Sure there might be some morons here and there but nothing like you see with the Republicans with the constant shit like purple heart bandaids, and calling every Democrat a socialist whom wants to ruin the country.

They have just gone too far off the deep end and I'm a pretty damn tolerant person. At this point in time the Republican party has gone so far over the edge there is just no reasoning with them anymore. I consider that extremist.

I actually hoped that the ass spanking they took this last election would show them they have gone off track, but instead they are getting worse and further out of touch with reality. We need a solid 2 or 3 party system, but the Repub's aren't solid anymore.

Well Democrats right now are following very socialist ideals... they've been easing into that for quite some time now. That's not an opinion either, that's a fact.

It's not a fact... I think you had better study up on socialism because you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm sorry what? I'm not a Republican or a Democrat either but the Democrats have crossed the line far more than the Republicans, from the original party intentions (I'm generalizing here for obvious reasons)...

Democrats used to promote social liberties and restrict economic freedom...
Republicans used to promote economic freedom and restrict social liberties...

Democrats now are pushing harder and harder on restricting economic freedoms via increased taxes to fund a variety of programs that the US Government really doesn't have the authority to do... Their ideals and intentions are very much Socialist in nature and they are spending cash at an alarming rate! They are changing US laws to fit their own morals and values... that's just wrong.

Republicans now (NeoCons) are pushing for restricted economic freedoms in a different way. They are trying to tighten the US Gov's grip on the capitalist market via regulations. They are not however trying to increase taxes...

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i'm confused on how the banks were nationalized and no one said a thing, but as soon as the government starts trying to give medical to everyone in the country, it's 'socialism'

newsflash: caring for the elderly, social assistance, food stamps are all forms of socialism. you guys really badly need to put down the propaganda and start reading the facts for yourselves.

prescott bush got in serious trouble doing big business with the nazis

"newsflash: caring for the elderly, social assistance, food stamps are all forms of socialism. you guys really badly need to put down the propaganda and start reading the facts for yourselves."

And I don't agree with any of them, take that! As they are all forms of socialism! You are absolutely right! And I never said we were socialists or Demos were socialist. Only that they are following and trying to push through socialist ideals... that's a big difference.

I don't go around throwing big ol Socialist and Fascist stamps in broad sweeping statements like many people do. I just point out that laws and regulations and whatnot that are being passed are very Socialist in nature, and that's a fact :P

I think when people accuse the government of 'indoctrinating' their kids they are probably flat earth home schoolers teaching their kids from those text books that show Jesus riding a T-Rex.

Show me your gift certificate! Fire David Letterman! :winkwink:

Meet Joe The Plumber 2.0. Expect to see him a lot now.

Murderers, pedophiles, rapists, etc in US jails also earned their free health care.

Something is fucked up here...

Healthcare for Military is a completely different ballgame...

The monies spent for that purpose fall under the Cost of Defending the United States category which is probably the most justifiable tax dollar expenditure you can ever possibly come up with :P

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"In October 1917 a Russian revolutionary named Vladimir Lenin, campaigning on the promise of “change,” led his Bolshevik party to victory. Lenin was convinced that redistribution of wealth would “draw heaven down to earth.” As such, Bolshevik bureaucrats in Moscow began printing money, seizing church assets, confiscating private property, nationalizing Russian banks, factories, and farms, and providing a system of socialized medicine.

Indeed, in 1918, Lenin introduced a cradle-to-grave health care system that utterly bankrupted the Soviet economy.

One would think that the utter failure and devastation that ensued in the wake of Lenin's failed socialist experiment would have precluded any other government from following the same foolhardy footprint.

Unfortunately it did not.

In October of 1949 Mao Tse-tung established the People's Republic of China and began a similar socialist experiment (The Great Leap Forward) devastating the Chinese economy and ultimately leading to the starvation and killings of some 50 million Chinese citizens.

The 1984 movie release of The Killing Fields forever memorialized the attempt on the part of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge to create the ultimate “brotherhood of man.” The result was measured in economic devastation and millions of deaths. Dr. Jay Richards, social commentator and author of Money, Greed and God, notes an ultimate irony in the movie: Dith Pran escapes the Cambodian killing fields and finds rescue in a Thai Red Cross Station as the lyrics of John Lennon's “Imagine” waft soothingly through the air—Lenin's failed socialist experiment forever immortalized in song.

Says Richards: “Lennon's anthem describes a sort of godless kingdom of God. We're asked to imagine a future ‘brotherhood of man’ where ‘all the people’ live ‘life in peace’ ... a world with ‘no possessions’ where ‘all the people’ share ‘all the world.’”

“Never has an idea had such catastrophic consequences.”

Perhaps an even greater horror in the present is that those who are blithely unaware of history may well be resigned to reliving its horrors. Even now as China is rapidly moving away from socialist economics, Western economies seem bent on an opposite persuasion. Listen closely to the rhetoric of present political power brokers and you will hear both the legislation of Lenin and the lyrics of Lennon wafting through the air.

This brings me to the urgency of writing you today.

While false prophets cry peace and safety (even promising that the greatest of all revivals is right around the corner—spiritual and economic), and while political pundits cry “Imagine there's no Heaven” as they craft a godless utopia on earth, you and I have been faithfully exposing darkness to light.

Socialism in the century past led to economic and spiritual chaos. We know only in principle what will happen in our future as the specter of socialism continues to haunt our own generation."

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/t...d=7390&posts=1

good point I never thought that:thumbsup