You have to remember the only reason it was going to take him 3 years is because he saw the experiments they were doing to his kind, so he needed to go back and get help. He said something along the lines of, I will cure you, but I'm not going to let my people be experiments. I am going back home to get help and free my people, and i will cure you.

The aliens were either a worker or warrior class with low intelligence and easily manipulated. Aliens could function like a hive with different castes, maybe selective breeding, genetic manipulation, or a bunch of other reasons.

The leader (or pilot) was not incapacitated. He lacked biogenic fuel to make the ship work. It took him 20 years to collect and refine new fuel.

ah yes, :thumbsup. i recalled that exchange as being more about wikus but it was as you state.


i see now how the character development all comes together right there.

It might not necessarily be a fuel per say but a biogenic compound that is necessary for the ships to work. The technology is partly organic and only works with interaction with prawns. Why it also turns people into prawns is a mystery but it is alien technology and thus you can't really say how it works.

Well the human government probably doesn't want them to take a space ship full of possibly useful alien technology away. Probably better safe than sorry. He doesn't want to be threatening in any way.

They interfaced with the mother ship and used a tractor beam

He is a nice alien who cares about his people and other races. Also he needs the human to get back his space fuel. Probably impossible to get 1.8 million aliens back on the ship. That would take years. They were starving so probably no food on board. Ship probably damaged. Probably wanted to make a fast getaway before he got blasted out of the sky.

The alien specifically said that he knew only one thing that would cause his condition.

Ok let me make this very clear. The aliens were DUMB. Probably borderline retarded. They were a worker or warrior class of LOW intelligence. Major fucking plot point.

1) Probably anti-gravity device
2) I don't really think that the biogenic fluid was a fuel source. More like a control mechanism. Like oil for you car. It may have only been necessary to get the control ship working. The mothership may just work fine.
3) Any time you have aliens they must travel faster than light. Bend space, wormholes, FTL drive whatever. Use your imagination.

This movie was very well done and had a very different tempo. It started out with a documentary type feel to it, to make it seem that this just happened. This was done to catch the audience up to speed to begin to tell the story of Wikas and the main Prawn.



This movie made people use their imagination. It also provoked thought and discussion. People that dont get it are ones that dont like to think when they go to the movies or dont have the imagination to think when they see a movie like this.


Any movie that makes you think about it and promotes discussion days later did a good job with the way and style it told its story.:thumbsup



I actully liked it and thought that it was put together very well. The way it catches the audiance up to speed with what is going on today was genius. :2 cents:

Einstein physics allow for travel via wormholes. This does not break the speed of light barrier.

it wasn't that there were plot holes so much as it was that there was no emotional motivation for any of the characters actions beyond simple self preservation.
no one in this movie really gave a fuck about anyone and neither did i.

not to mention it's a red flag when there's a scene in the trailer that aint in the movie.
y'know, the dark interrogation room with the alien at the table being questioned?
not in the film. put in the trailer simply to give the impression that you were going to see a thinking man's film instead of the action movie you were actually going to see.

like i said earlier.
this movie was a 90 minute excuse for a 15 minute power armor scene.
helluva power armor scene though.

yup, thus my participation in this thread!

:winkwink:

theoretically, yes

I saw District 9. I think it's a "wait to see it on Cable" type of movie.

fun thread!

I loved it! went to the drive in to see it and I didnt know what the movie was about! It totally drew me in from the start! You have to watch carefully to get everything that is going on!

Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

The movie didn't try to explain everything, which is part of what made it a better than typical movie.

just saw the movie and I didn't like it
reason: it was pretty boring I found

i mean 1 alien and half a human could take on an army with those weapons but 1mil+ aliens couldn't even get their shit together?

the movie was just one giant wasteland

This thread shows one glaring commonality.

It seemingly appears that none of you have gone to the website...It is filled with puzzles,
answers many of the questions posted here and leads to a network of other related sites.

IF you want to know more, this is where you go...

http://www.d-9.com/

......


I rest my case. If you don't know what happened to wikus, you're one of those people that gets movies ruined because Hollywood has to explain every little thing to you and wrap it up with a nice neat bow.

I'm glad they didn't do that with this movie, and the viewer actually had to have a brain to follow it and figure it out. It sucks for you because you seem to have missed out on some portions of the movie. But whatever. At least you get to try and blame the movie on an internet forum.

this was an enjoyable thread with posters exchanging thoughts and feelings on something fun and trivial- a movie.



you must of missed those parts, too busy pointing fingers to engage in conversation.

funny thing, convos like the one the rest of us had in this thread remind me of college english and lit classes where we discussed books, movies, short stories, etc. and everyone sorted out the topic for themselves based on everyone's interpretations and input.

people couldn't hide on the internet and try to denigrate other's thoughts in that forum though, big difference for people like yourself.

Yes, it was an enjoyable thread. I very much enjoyed making fun of you, and other people who don't "get" movies. :1orglaugh

LOL so true!

it's sad when people have to make things up just so they can make fun of others and blame others for things.

if you were to actually read this thread you would see that i did get the film- i thoroughly enjoyed watching it and discussing it here amongst the other adults who can have a chat about it.
there's no life-changing message to *get* out of the movie.

the movie was for fun, pure entertainment, like a roller coaster. do i remember every turn, rise or fall on a rr ride? no, i am having too much fun enjoying the whole experience. But when i chat with my friends about how much fun it was, one might say "that one turn was badass!" then i might say "oh yah, i forgot that one, it was badass!"

does not mean i didn't get the ride. or not have fun.

fact is, during this discussion, i simply didn't recall the scene correctly explaining the 3 years hiatus. did i miss it? no. i was enjoying the ride.

I just know about this movie a while ago. Must to check this out.

why wasnt it called district 8 ;)

Grasping at straws much?

I didn't make anything up. You clearly stated you didn't know what happened to wikus. All I did was quote you on it. Nothing more, nothing less.

:1orglaugh

You keep coming back though and trying to make this more than it is. :thumbsup

really?

looks to me like i said otherwise here-




i am going to assume that when you say i keep coming back and making this more than it is you are talking about my comments in regards to your saying it's my fault hollywood dumbs down movies, that i missed the point of the film, that i didn't *get* it and that somewhere i blamed this thread for it all.


yah, i'm grasping at straws & making this more than it is. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup

I would have liked the movie a lot more, if it didn't suck so bad.

I thought the movie sucked

Just watched it. The pig getting shot out of his gun was very funny. I was hoping after those windows blew out, the ship was going to fuck up the city. To spot the civilized aliens they are the ones attempting to have clothing on.
Very entertaining and would watch it again.
8/10
3.5 stars out of 4
A-

They made the movie for under 30 Million, I give them some props for that.

Here's a post I read a couple days ago on a tube site. I still haven't gotten around to seeing this movie.

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Despite this being a science fiction film I would say that unless you are looking for an Independence Day "we beat up some aliens to stop the invasion" then this film is not going to be a right fit.

The director, Neill Blomkamp is a native to South Africa. This film is an extension to his short film "Live in Joburg" (search google video). What this film depicts are events that are in fact hardly fictional. The realism in this story hits close to home. There's a reason for this. Neill decided to tell the story of the Apartheid era in South Africa that lasted from 1948 to 1994. That is a whole lot of years of racial segregation. That's a whole lot of years of racial tension.

What is really great about this film is that it is depicting real life events in a science fiction world. In this film we see Johannesburg dealing with the arrival of aliens who for all intents and purposes are peaceful and want to go home. Yet the government and an outside company MNU do not want this to happen. Because of the species tension of humans and non humans, non humans are segregated into refugee camps that become permanent. The non humans are forced to live in slums. At the end it is shown that they're then going to be made to live in camps or basically a concentration camp.


This film deals with racism on all levels though it would be more apt to label it as "speciesism." We see "speciesism" through ignorance where people who do not understand the non humans fear what they are and what they might do. We see passive "speciesism" which is apparent in many who might not go out of their way to make their beliefs known but would not mind laughing at derogatory jokes, agree quietly with those against non humans etc. Then we see aggressive "speciesism" where people are out spoken about their hatred and some relishing in "dealing" with the non human.

What was great about this was that we see violence, cause and effect on both sides. Both are equally able to commit crimes, violence, etc yet only one side is villified in the media and in the minds of those against the non humans.

What this film does is show or expose our own belief system that we may not necessarily be aware of, especially if we are a passive "speciest" (or racist).

As for discussing the lead role of Wikus; I actually liked that Wikus was still a prick until the end of the film. It quite honestly felt much more real then the sort of "epiphany then the heroic move" that a lot of films do. If anything it probably shows how 99 percent of us would react or what our motives would be. The thing is Hollywood has now made the "epiphany then the heroic move" so commonplace that when the realistic approach (that may in fact aptly portray human behavior) is done and might be actually closer to home base--it feels foreign to us.

I might be reading too much into this but I would like to think that it was written that way to demonstrated the irony that as a human loses his so called "humanity" and becomes more and more alien he is far more "humane" then as a human. It was because of Wikus's lack of change (even when he comes back to help Christopher--I would argue that it was not because some sort of epiphany but the general prickle of one's conscience when one has done something they ought not to do and the fact that one may have possible ruined a chance at being "fixed" ) that made me like the film all the more as it felt much more realistic.

As for Wikus I do think he is the epitome of most racists. Most racists are not the aggressive "wear a white hood" that we think of but rather are the passive aggressive kind that might not stand up for injustices so easily, make derogatory remarks or jokes, believe in the stereotypes surrounding a given person based on race etc. He is a prick to non humans however that's not all who he is. We're reminded of what an ideal husband he is, hard worker etc to basically remind us that like any given human they might have a lot of good about them and yet have this ridiculous bigotry for other people which can in fact kill the sympathy we're supposed to give him. Maybe in fact it was set up this way on purpose. Too many people tend to go "but he was such a nice boy/girl" when they think of people who seemed to be a nice husband (or father, mother, daughter coworker etc) incapable of such hatred. Yet there are countless who fit Wikus's role quite easily. So it should be that even these seemingly nice people need to be reminded of their hatred and bigotry.

So for Wikus we see the ultimate approach to "walk a day in their shoes" as he's now become alien and has now taken up their experiences in a way that he might not have ever understood or cared. Now he has to live their life day by day and deal with the extreme prejudices and especially now that he is another "face" in the crowd.

Then there's the fact that with racism and bigotry there's usually no happy ending as "heroic" moments do not atone for past grievances. Only complete and change and willingness to do away with one's bigotry and work against it could this be the happy ending for the film.

I just saw this movie last night, freakin AMAZING.

no.
i will not rely on a website full of extra shit to make your movie make sense.
not with cloverfield, not with this.

if your movie can't stand on it's own merit, than fuck your website.

after watching this movie just now , i did a search on GFY to see if anybody
already talked about it , and low and behold its my long lost buddy Ty
that starts it hehehehe ....
This movie like any movie has its holes but every movie is like that.
Overall , I would say it is forsure in my best top 3 movie list all time !

agree , they made it very clear that these prawns were stupid :upsidedow