You are right about that, throwing "glass" at the police is not passive, just because it wasn't "video taped" or made "public" doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'm sure if the police director say it happened, he got some good evidence backing his word :2 cents:

yes those traps is setup by a few stupid people looking for trouble. It's done by some immigrant gangs and some "autonomes". The problem is that those few people get no consequences from their actions, heck if they get a mark from a hit from a cop after throwing various things after the police everybody will scream "how sad, someone should stop those evil cops from hurting our kids"

I did not say they need to behave violent in all situations, but they should be able to respond with violence if people are being violent against them. Especially if they are out numbered. The police should be allowed to show "authority" when needed else they got no authority and nobody needs to listen to them.

P.S. my posts have nothing to do with democracy, Denmark is more of a "red democracy" than anything else, which is the reason I moved out of the country.

I do know in Denmark that if you intend to demonstrate, you can report it in advance and the police will provide you with police escort, close down the streets you are walking etc to ensure everything goes smoothly, anyone that wish to have a passive demonstration will likely do that, there is absolutely no need to do anything else, it's free. A Public service by the tax payers!! :thumbsup

If these people are truly trying to fight for their cause, they would do that, if they are looking to create problems they might do something else, such as messing up a raid or a drug bust :2 cents:

These people don't want a peaceful demonstration. There is no press when that happens. :2 cents:

That's true, so is this case about 2-5 people getting beaten up by the police or is it about 50-100 people getting beaten up by the police ? I never said everybody was violent, but people that is not should probably get out of the way if fights break out with the police

It appears to be primary 1 that is in the news, 1 person with prior convictions for violence against the police. Are you saying that it is someone innocent then ?

Before you teach me too much about how things work in Denmark, can you tell me if you speak and understand danish? Did you read the articles? Did you collect your information from more than one news source ?
My knowledge is somewhat limited as I lived there for only about 28 years.

i totally agree , cops are like gods, if they tell you to move and you dont they should be able to just murder you right there, and if a cop asks you to jump you should ask "how high", if not they should gouge out your eyes and stomp on your testicles.. its very simple.

this happened in canada at a Native Rally in Ontario.. only way it was figured out was cause they didn't change their boots.

scary shit.

right, blame the peaceful protesters for not getting the fuck out... they obviously believe in their cause, they will not leave because a few trouble makers starts throwing rocks...

I ain't following you man...


we drink water here too and take a shit once in a while... Don't make it sound like only you can have an opinion because you live in Denmark.. I aint telling you how Denmark work, where did you get that from? I made comments on two incidents in the video... Few arguments were brought up trying to justify them, they weren't convincing and I'm telling you why... If something I said was wrong, I trust you who have read all the articles to point to me why I am wrong.. but you need to be convincing ;)

I did not say it didn't happen. And if it did, they have to prove it, to convict someone. But like beating that girl in the head, just sitting there - or beat people lying on the ground, who are in condition of shock, can't be justified in any way. The police may hit with sticks to force people to move, but they may not abuse that power...

The police is there to enforce law and order. Nothing else. They already have the authority to use violent force, but not to abuse it. We can't expect the police to teach people to behave, especially not with violence. That will only have the opposite effect. It is the political way it should be handled; harder penalties (through the legal system), but also better social politics. And less racism... Even if Denmark is "red" regarding taxes and public services, it has become very extreme and polarized. We live in the dirt, that Bush and Bin Laden left behind. And the racists/nazis are taking advantage of it :Oh crap

There were demonstrations all day. 20.000 people were demonstrating - and the press was there. There were also demonstrations after this happened. With press.

Yeah, I can see how much discussion that is getting. :helpme

It is a discussion on highest political level. Just like the nazism. Everyone who fight it, have my support :)

to arrest people breaking the law is a waste of time ? but beating them isn't wasting time ? ummm ok.. lol
mainly the beating parts..:thumbsup


did they try walking around them , i saw plenty of space to simply walk past.


because of course being beaten on the legs makes them work better :thumbsup
as opposed to right wing extremists who accept the law and toss cupcakes ?


the funny thing is not a single shred of evidence suggests anyone attacked the police. certainly not on the video nor in anything posted thus far.


it seems readily apparent by the crowds of "extremists" being beaten :winkwink:
who is attacking the police ?

i dont think it has much to do with laws , the word "entry" with the word "denied" before it would imply simply by definition that the person had not entered the country.



i think we all get the idea, every civilized country has these things.


yes i'm sure that was the great goal.. hate to break your one sided view but nobody plans on living in a ghetto on welfare lol

if they dont have a work visa they likely cant get a job so its kinda unfair to assume they plan on never working simply because its impossible for them to work right now..

but really we are straying from the point, the video and thread had nothing to do with who these people are unless your of the opinion that its ok to beat certain people but not others.

The video clearly shows police beating people who were not resisting in any way. Show us ANY evidence to suggest differently and you may have a point , until then your just making excuses for barbaric behaviour.

abuse of power?! GTFO! Its just them showing their authority! People need to know who's the boss or they will not obey :helpme

But what do I know anyhow, I'm not from Denmark and haven't read the articles :winkwink:

Well, you've seen the video by OP? The girl just sitting there, is hit several times, including the head, and when she finally get up and try to escape, the policeman hit her back so she almost pass out. Is that use.. or abuse?

I know i know... just a little sarcasm :winkwink:

lol I'm not going to any of those demonstrations, because your are right about it. Why the hell risk getting beaten up? :Oh crap

Ouch!! There is probably a better way for both sides.

Thread became huge and needs some love now:

fuck them... ! not like that a problem is solved.. with fights and...

fuck those hippies.. btw due - police are using pepperspray in DK now :)

i lol'd :P

i started quoting the people here but then i realised i could quote every single sentence. i clearly got shocked by the replies here. some people here are so dumb and nazi that they are nothing more just a waste of space on this planet. this includes everyone stepping up for violence, no matter what the reason is.

i need to point out KrisH - mate, you are a moron and have no idea about the things you talk about. democracy you say? what it has to do with nazism?! idiot.

idiots.

kktxhbai

how about you shut the fuck up untill you know what went on? you are as clueless about the situation as you most likely are with everything else you comment on.

so climb down in to your 3rd world shithole and stop telling us how bad our democracy is.

You don't need to be a Nazi to despise leftist Marxist radicals who are making every effort to subvert and destroy our societies. It is called having common fucking sense and a survival instinct. :2 cents:

They shouldn't be hitting young women like that :2 cents:

They can beat the shit out of the guys for all I care, a young woman doesnt deserve to be smashed on the back as she is moving away.

in the video to me it looks like they arent beating them that hard.

also..the one girl making the most noise and freaking out...they looked like they were talking to the guy there more...probably saying..why is she flipping out on the ground like that...we dont want to hit her...just tell her to go home..lol

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to know what went on? the fuck cares? i saw what i saw in the video, thats more than enough.

my cluelessness? oh come on, you claim theyre there illegally (like learn to spell), but they receive money... yeah, then theres something wrong on the other side dont you think? none of the countries pay a penny to illegal immigrants. or your mighty country is missing the pennies they could pay up in taxes for those 100 euros they make on the streets or by selling fries? thats why you want to beat them? is that democratic? do you pay your taxes mate after your online income, all honest? this is just 1 thing and i dont want to confront every idiotism you say in this thread.

and anyways, illegal or not, dont fucking beat the people, grab them under the armpit and take them away, thats humane.

my 3rd world... yes, like you have the slightest clue huhh... these actions just made your queen a ruler of a 3rd world country, denmark. beating people laying on the ground. yeah. thats normal. well fuck you.

Fuck those left wing terrorists. They are the worst.

In England they even 'stole' the ashes(urn?) of a mother who passed away. She was the mother of a CEO that works for a pharmacy company who do test drugs on animals, as the law requires them todo.

They demonstrate against everything. Fuck them.

you cant even understand the video, so im not surpriced you dont understand the situation. You are blind to the facts stated above, and therefor its pointless do bebate this with idiots like you.

Enjoy your 3rd world shithold country, while you bash our democracy. Im done with you

i didnt expect an intelligent answer from you, so dont worry, youre cool!

:thumbsup

So you didn't see them hitting people on their backs? on the head? in the kidneys?

It's not just Danish police. Give someone power over others and it will be abused. Human nature. Never trust cops.

i dunno , right wing terrorists are pretty bad too, as a matter of fact , isnt the word terrorist a big tipoff they are probably bad whatever wing they are :)

all left wingers stole the ashes or did you mean 1 guy stole them and you have no idea if any of the people support the theft.

Isnt it kinda silly to label an entire group because 1 guy did something bad ?

So there are cases where it's ok for the police to beat up people (that don't pose a threat and are not convicted of any crime)?

Sure the cops probably could have done it better, but if individuals are attacking the police they need need to be able to respond.

The situation about the individual getting shot "demonstrating" in Gothenburg was because the police was getting 5 kg stones thrown at them by the mob and started feeling overwhelmed.

What the bear said.

lol dude take a step back , your totally totally slanted. Who these people are or what they are doing has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the video. If you were actually there then i might believe you but you weren't so in order to judge the video you must take in all evidence we have been given.

FACT we see the police beating people on the ARMS, LEGS, HEAD, BACK.
Thats indisputable , anyone with eyes can see it.

FACT not one person showed any violent behaviour.

FACT you have not shown a shred of evidence to suggest the crowd was violent.

You are letting your opinion of these people cloud your judgement , just as the police obviously are.

In the usa they have a group of radicals known as the "westboro baptist church" these guys are nutty, disgusting, sick individuals, yet as much as i hate them , if i saw the police beating them like in the video posted on this thread. i would say the exact same thing. BAD COPS !!!

You could give me 1000 reasons why they are fucked in the head, 1000 examples of bad things they did, doesnt excuse police misconduct.

there werent any hit in the kidneys. Every one of the 28 complaints files was released to the press. There were not ONE bruise on any of the peoples back, and the two people that had scratches in the head was from falling and from climbing under the bus.

that is how "hard" the cops hid them... sof enough to not even leave a mark on her back

as I said time and time again... you dont know the facts - only the picture the video tries to paint.

The situation is just like sending jews back to Germany during WWII, because they did not prove with papers that Gestapo was coming for them - papers signed by Gestapo themselves... It is lack of logic, and with a danish government influenced by racism and relations to the right wing nazism, any civil disobedience, passive one, is justified. The police "just doing their job", is a job ordered by the racists politicians, who can't even take some human responsibility for the mess we created together with Bush in Iraq.

i think everyone agrees with you , the problem is the video shows nobody attacking the police and nobody has posted anything to suggest anyone was attacking the police.

Haha, KrisH is informed about the subject, and puts out specific, on target points. Retards then reply with pictures of nazis and spurt out generic university student shit out rights and liberties.

Also Smokey do you know what bias is? You're basing everything over what, a minute and a half long video? If I made a video that had obama saying "pull the plug on grandma" would you call him a mass murderer? idiot.

SmokeyTheBear

I dont give a shit about what you think - really. You dont know what happend here, and yet you think you are informed enough to call the police brutal, when they enforce the law we passed on an democratic fashion.

So you can think what you want.. I dont care. I will support law and order till the day I die, and I will give my life in the fight to protect it.

Personally, I would have run them over whit the bus, and run them over again on the way out if they havent moved in the meantime.

Over here, the police is only allowed to use violence when the demonstrator poses a threat. If a person is lying on the ground and refuses to get up, you arrest him and pick him up...

This is not about leftwing or rightwing... This is about liberty. A country where the police is not bound by the law and can torture people (use pain to compel them to do something) is not a free society, it's a police state...

no offense but you can see right ? like you have ok eyesight ? the video clearly shows the police hitting people in the back and head.. you would have to be superhuman to not get a bruise from a hit like that girl took in the back as she was trying to get away.

but oh gee there are complaint files that show no bruises so thus everything we saw on video didnt really happen .. :winkwink:

like i said before , take a step back, you are way too slanted to have a valid take on it.. You have convinced yourself of an opinion and you wont be swayed despite video evidence that clearly shows you are wrong..

What if tomorrow the police decides that arresting people for petty theft is a waste of police time and that it's better to give the suspect a good beating?

What if tomorrow the police decides that investigating a murder is waste of police time and that it's better to just arrest some random black guy?

What if .....

The second the police decides they no longer need to follow and respect the law... you're in big trouble :(

i'm evaluating a video based on whats contained in it .. is there another way to evaluate a video ? I'm not evaluating the people the politics or the situation , dont care who is right or wrong..

The problem is some people think you need to know "more of the story" to explain why its ok to beat people.

A normal sane person knows you dont beat anyone for no reason...

And good reasons arent " they are left wing extremists" or " they stole someones ashes" , "they are blocking a road" none of those are good reasons, tell me a good reason why its ok to beat unarmed unviolent people and i might agree with you , until then your just sptting your tires :)

What part dident you understand, when i explaind that every single one of the 28 complaints have been released to the press? what part of those FACTS are to fucking hard for you to understand? what part of "the tap she recived in the back dident even leave a mark" ? are you unable to understand? This is medical records done by the public hospitals. But ofcourse YOU as a webmaster know better than them, based on the video you have seen.

I'm sorry, but I trust the docters when they say that NONE of those inspected had recived any serious hits.

why dont you call her and ask her if you dont beleave me? I told you her name and she is listed in the public records

i think i do know , we have the fucking video to see..

i am commenting on the video and all evidence presented thus far, nothing more.

can you point me to your law that says its ok to beat people if they dont move ? i have doubts this is actually a law ..




you support law and order , yet you would murder these people with a bus ?? hmm conflicting statements.. Myabe you dont understand what supporting law and order is , i think you are under the assumption that breaking the law supports the laws.

heres in the usa people who support law and order dont murder people with buses ( food for thought )

Let me show you guys the difference between a peaceful and a violent protest, this video is from 2007 in Copenhagen when the police decided to shut down a very popular house where young people gathered:


Now have a look at the first video again and tell me who out of these two groups is it okay to smack over the head with batons.

im done with this shit... its easy for you to sit 10000 km away and pass judgement based on a 2 min clip you dont even understand.

Fuck your oppinions

Once you have fixed your own fucked up country, then you can start point fingers at other. Untill then, feel free to shut the hell up about things you know nothing about