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My thinking about Health care.

08-18-2009, 02:22 AM

I am a believer in free enterprise with competition being a driving force...but regulated free enterprise.

1. Insurance companies should be required to allow anyone that can pay for their policy...without preconditions...to purchase a policy.

2. Insurance companies should be required to pay for whatever medical procedures your doctor/doctors determine you may need without...preconditions.

2. States regulate what insurance companies can operate within the State. This should not be allowed. All insurance companies...domestic and non domestic...should be allowed to operate across States...in all states.

3. If one is so poor that one cannot afford to purchase ANY private insurance from any insurance company then there should be government subsidized insurance available for purchase...with one having to pay whatever percentage of their income it is determined that they can afford to pay and still meet necessary needs.

4. All people...from 18 up...should be required to purchase either private insurance or public subsidized insurance.

5. The cost of medical procedures and medicines should be regulated...in a manner that would still encourage R&D.

I think when the dust settles...which would certainly take a period of time...this would be better than having a total socializtion of health care...which I am not in favor of.

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08-18-2009, 03:43 AM

Of course getting the Congress to do battle with the insurance companies...pharmaceutical...States and AMA...is another story.

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08-18-2009, 04:00 AM

well...i dont agree!
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08-18-2009, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by Dirty Lord

well...i dont agree!

Are you in favor of total socialization of heath care...or just have different thinking about health care?

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08-18-2009, 04:11 AM

That sounds pretty sensible to me. America has a good system of health care and you shouldn't re-invent the wheel. You just need 100% coverage and insurance costs to come WAY down. If you get these two things you don't need universal health care. Regulating drug and treatment costs would do bring costs down. I would go further and regulate the cost of insurance premiums, but maybe that's too lefty for most Americans.

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08-18-2009, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by theking

Are you in favor of total socialization of heath care...or just have different thinking about health care?

Different way about health care I think...

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08-18-2009, 04:35 AM

Not having a public system just still blows my mind. A badly government run public system will still do better than a system driven by profit hands down.

Though not really sure thats the issue for you guys... its more a case of your insurance companies, drug companies etc just totally out of control. Until you reign in the profit driven health sector, and cut them out of the political system like a cancer is cut out of the body ... nothing will improve. It's not going to be easy, and it looks like they have too much influence over there for that to happen, but you guys really do deserve better.

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08-18-2009, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by marcjacob

That sounds pretty sensible to me. America has a good system of health care and you shouldn't re-invent the wheel. You just need 100% coverage and insurance costs to come WAY down. If you get these two things you don't need universal health care. Regulating drug and treatment costs would do bring costs down. I would go further and regulate the cost of insurance premiums, but maybe that's too lefty for most Americans.

Well insurance companies/free enterprise are entitled to make a profit and I think if cross state competition were allowed it would get the price of a policy down to where many more could afford to purchase than do. Also the requirement that all must purchase insurance (there are many that can actually afford insurance but do not purchase it for whatever their reasons) would bring in a larger customer base and should help to reduce the premium costs.

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08-18-2009, 05:14 AM

One thing I left off is one should be allowed to deduct the cost of ones insurance from ones taxes.

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08-18-2009, 05:18 AM

this is funny. someone who got free health care because he claimed an injury in military claiming socialized health care isnt good.

aint that a bitch? LOL

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08-18-2009, 05:22 AM

Funny thing.. The Doctors in the US might want to face South and learn some lessons. Some already have, and are making a KILLING with the money.

IN Mexico, a PRIVATE Doctor in this private office is a 40$ visit.. And they dont walk in look in your mouth and walk out. they spend time with you and on average still see 3 or 4 people in an hour. then when they send you to the pharmacy the paper they hand you has the address of one that they will tell you has the best price.. And Its amazing that the doctor, or a group he is in, owns that pharmacy. And do you need blood drawn, well, go to this lab, and guess what. He or his group own that as well. They dont take insurance and most of them make damn good money.

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08-18-2009, 05:27 AM

Double post. Sorry about that

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08-18-2009, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

this is funny. someone who got free health care because he claimed an injury in military claiming socialized health care isnt good.

aint that a bitch? LOL

be glad we paid for your surgery speedbump

I did not claim an injury...I was operated on multiple times while on active duty...died on the operating table more than once...and of course I have the use of the VA as part of the obligation owed me by the government and every citizen that I served. I earned it the hard way kid...and as far as taxes go I am satisfied that I have long ago paid more in taxes than you will pay in your entire lifetime...thank you very much.

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08-18-2009, 05:51 AM

the fact you think just becuse you "served" in the military means you deserve free health care is amazing. You didnt get a limb blown off, you hurt yourself lifting a box LOL

just sit back and think the rest of us owe you a life of free health care becuase you didnt go to college and get a real job, its worst than welfare imho.

as i said, be glad we pay so you can sit on your ass and not have to work anymore, and we pay for your meds, and we pay for your surgery.

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08-18-2009, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by theking

Well insurance companies/free enterprise are entitled to make a profit and I think if cross state competition were allowed it would get the price of a policy down to where many more could afford to purchase than do. Also the requirement that all must purchase insurance (there are many that can actually afford insurance but do not purchase it for whatever their reasons) would bring in a larger customer base and should help to reduce the premium costs.

you don't understand how health insurance companies run. Do a little google search on "wendell potter" he'll give you the skinny on how the insurance companies make their profits.

anything short of dismantling the insurance companies is not reform.
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