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stickyfingerz · 08-14-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Im just piointing out your hypocrisy when it comes to you being anti-socialism. You want to help illegals get here so they get free medical, but are against any form of health care reform because as you constantly say it is "stealing from one to give to the other" who you think pays for all the health care illegals get? Their anchor babies births? You and me.

Personally I have nothing against illegal immigrants, I dont even care about land borders. Don't confuse me pointing out your hypocrisy as a stance on this particular issue.

You run around here screaming that Obama is a communist and are anti-health caer but then here you come in and paste the text from Ellis like you are your brothers keeper? get real, hypocrit.

So you think illegals want to leach off the system, and I believe they just want the opportunity to be full citizens, and be legal productive tax paying citizens. I believe the system in place for immigration is bullshit and that is the reason they end up being illegal in the first place. Some of the hardest working people I know are Mexicans, and most of them have great morals and have no desire to be a burden on the system. What I believe is giving them a chance, not giving them a hand out. I believe in offering opportunity and giving them a fair chance. Yet somehow you compare that to forced free health care run by the government.

You fail at logical comparisons as usual. And AGAIN I am ALL for affordable health care for all, just no government run health care paid for by our taxes. Why don't I believe in it? If you honestly think the government can run a health care system without it being a bloated stupid system that ends up lowering everyones overall health care then you are an idiot.

There needs to be reform of the current system. Not a new socialist run health care program. Done talking to you. Better off cleaning my house and scrubbing toilets. Im likely to get more intellectual stimulation and better logic that way.

brassmonkey · 08-14-2009, 05:58 AM

they should deport him after he get out of jail

czarina · 08-14-2009, 05:58 AM

that's such BS! illegal or not, they're human beings and they deserve at least a little bit of water.

what the hell is going thru the heads of those all high-and-mighty a-holes in Arizona, when every single one of them is an immigrant of some sort?

brassmonkey · 08-14-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina

that's such BS! illegal or not, they're human beings and they deserve at least a little bit of water.

what the hell is going thru the heads of those all high-and-mighty a-holes in Arizona, when every single one of them is an immigrant of some sort?

wtf it's illegal and u dont live here!!

they were all over home depot is was fucking a pain even the land fields had a bunch standing there waiting to work taxfree. if i find an illegal working here im calling the sheriff

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

So you think illegals want to leach off the system

I don't *think* anything, articles like this about where I lived state enough to back that up.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr...-immighealth27

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Sacramento County voted in February to bar illegal immigrants from county clinics at an estimated savings of $2.4 million. Contra Costa County followed last month by cutting off undocumented adults, to save approximately $6 million. And Yolo County is voting on a similar change next month, which would reduce costs by $1.2 million.

Again, don't confuse me pointing out your hypocrisy with any stance on this issue. Taking a jab at hypocrits is what GFY is for, and you certainly make an easy target when it comes to hypocrisy.

You act as if illegals do not cost tax payers any money, then want to call any health care reform communist nazi shit. Its laughable.

Having lived where illegals were responsible for having clinics shut down and Americans could no longer use them, I tend to see things in the real world. Fact is, counties are having to ban illegals from using them now...

Has nothing to do with my personal stance on the issue, we talking about tax dollars and medical services. You dont want Americans to have what you want to give to illegals. Hilarious..

Personally, I hope one day we get rid of flags and all borders. But hey, im a Libertarian, what do I know?

Manowar · 08-14-2009, 06:05 AM

unsurprising, they are really cracking down

czarina · 08-14-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

wtf it's illegal and u dont live here!!

they were all over home depot is was fucking a pain even the land fields had a bunch standing there waiting to work taxfree. if i find an illegal working here im calling the sheriff

hey, only because I chose to leave the US behind, doesn't mean I'm not entitled to my opinion. I'm a US CITIZEN and above all I am a fair person.

pornguy · 08-14-2009, 06:06 AM

Kind of funny Fletch. Because those same Mexicans that are illegal in Miami WONT go to the hospitals and clinics because they are afraid of being deported.. I think those documents that they claim have been a little bullshitted.

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Kind of funny Fletch. Because those same Mexicans that are illegal in Miami WONT go to the hospitals and clinics because they are afraid of being deported.. I think those documents that they claim have been a little bullshitted.

Please dont cofuse me posting numbers as my stance on anything. My family lived in this area (New orleans) before it was even called the US.

My family is made up of folks from all over, some are immigrants from Korea, Vietnam, France, germany, all over.

But I also lived in Cali (1/3 of all illegals exist in Cali) and have seen the clinics and hospitals close, to deny that fact is ignoring the truth.

No man or woman on earth should be denied medical, I am only pointing out Sticky hypocrisy...

pornguy · 08-14-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Please dont cofuse me posting numbers as my stance on anything. My family lived in this area (New orleans) before it was even called the US.

My family is made up of folks from all over, some are immigrants from Korea, Vietnam, France, germany, all over.

But I also lived in Cali (1/3 of all illegals exist in Cali) and have seen the clinics and hospitals close, to deny that fact is ignoring the truth.

No man or woman on earth should be denied medical, I am only pointing out Sticky hypocrisy...

No arguments with me.. I don't know what he has said in the past so Im out of that. I just know I have seen on ride along's with Rescue in Miami and Metro dade where they would do some major stitching and such on them because they refused to go to the hospital or clinic.

As for the human factor.. I think the guy with the water should have been trespassed from the location as anyone else and they should be told to never return..

What this case will do, is stop anyone from assisting someone that they think might be an illegal immigrant. If the immigrant falls down having a heart attack, based on this law, and someone helps they can be arrested.

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 06:20 AM

I dont know anything about situation in Miami.

But in Cali, illegals walk the street without fear of deportation man. In fact,... illegals go to clincs and get health care without any fear. Only until recently did they start to fear deportation, and its because of the latest immigration discussions. For decades illegals abused the sytem and it has now collapsed.

Again, personally i think all humans deserve medical services, however, in this day and age those services cost money, and it comes from Stickyfinger taxes.

And when you live in Cali and see American denied services illegals get for free, it makes you wonder what kind of system we running?

if you have a social SSN and go to hospital youll get your life saved, but youll be billed. In cali, illegals can have heart attack on your property, not only do you risk getting sued, you also pay for their heart transplant and they never get a bill... horrible situation but where do we go from here?

stickyfingerz · 08-14-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I don't *think* anything, articles like this about where I lived state enough to back that up.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr...-immighealth27

Again, don't confuse me pointing out your hypocrisy with any stance on this issue. Taking a jab at hypocrits is what GFY is for, and you certainly make an easy target when it comes to hypocrisy.

You act as if illegals do not cost tax payers any money, then want to call any health care reform communist nazi shit. Its laughable.

Having lived where illegals were responsible for having clinics shut down and Americans could no longer use them, I tend to see things in the real world. Fact is, counties are having to ban illegals from using them now...

Has nothing to do with my personal stance on the issue, we talking about tax dollars and medical services. You dont want Americans to have what you want to give to illegals. Hilarious..

Personally, I hope one day we get rid of flags and all borders. But hey, im a Libertarian, what do I know?

Again you are an idiot cause you just don't get it. Having a stance on not wanting government run health care, and having a stance on believing the immigration system is fucked up and needs reformed to make it easier for people to become citizens is not hypocrisy AT ALL. Its a strawman argument just as all your other arguments are. Your logic is full of fail.

You are yapping about the current end result of a failed immigration system. People that are having to leach off the system in order to sustain living is an end result of them not being able to pay taxes in the first place or receive legal benefits from working a job legally.

If the immigration system was reformed there would be a lot less illegals, a lot more people paying into the tax system, health care costs would be lower as more would have health care plans through their employer. So what I am saying is that the failed immigration system is a cause of higher health care costs. The immigrants are already here no debating that. More will come because they want to live in America by choice. If they were offered legal status they would take it. They would gladly pay in taxes and be glad to not be looking over their shoulder. They would be glad to be fully legal, and would be proud to be United states citizens. This would help lower everyones health care costs by lowering the leaching of the system. Fuck why am I wasting my breath ?

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You are yapping about the current end result of a failed immigration system.

Incorrect, I am yapping about a guy who barks all day about how he doesn't want a single penny of his taxes going to help fellow Ameicans, but then comes in a thread and tries to portray himself as his brothers keepers by quoting text from Ellis. LOL

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Fuck why am I wasting my breath ?

because I called you on your hypocrisy and it gets under your skin is my guess

gideongallery · 08-14-2009, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

youre one funny guy. In one thread you scream up and down all day about how socialism is bad, that you dont want your taxes going to help out other Americans... then here you are trying to act like your brothers keeper? LOL

this shit is hilarious.

I am all for helping out my fellow man, but you "anti-health care reform" folk crack me up.

You dont want to help your own fellow americans get affordable health care, but want to save evey illegal coming into the country to use your tax dollars. as you say it is "stealing from one to give to the other" yet you support illegals coming into US???

BUAHAHAH

if you reply at all make sure you quote the yellow...

there is a difference between charity by choice and charity forced upon you in the specific way the government want it to happen.

TarPy · 08-14-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Denaz

Plastic bags i could understand, but when was the last time wildlife ate a plastic water bottle o_O?

I've got photos of a baboon eating a plastic bottle cap... /shrug

stickyfingerz · 08-14-2009, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Incorrect, I am yapping about a guy who barks all day about how he doesn't want a single penny of his taxes going to help fellow Ameicans, but then comes in a thread and tries to portray himself as his brothers keepers by quoting text from Ellis. LOL

because I called you on your hypocrisy and it gets under your skin is my guess

Tell you what bubba. Start finding where I said I don't want a single penny of my taxes going to help my fellow Americans. You are an utter and complete idiot. You keep telling me what I've said in the past. Go on and find it and link me to where I said these things. Keep parroting what you "think" I said though. Its always amazing to me how people tell me what I said all the time haha.

stickyfingerz · 08-14-2009, 07:28 AM

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I dont know anything about situation in Miami. But in Cali, illegals walk the street without fear of deportation man. In fact,... illegals go to clincs and get health care without any fear. Only until recently did they start to fear deportation, and its because of the latest immigration discussions. For decades illegals abused the sytem and it has now collapsed. Again, personally i think all humans deserve medical services, however, in this day and age those services cost money, and it comes from Stickyfinger taxes. And when you live in Cali and see American denied services illegals get for free, it makes you wonder what kind of system we running? if you have a social SSN and go to hospital youll get your life saved, but youll be billed. In cali, illegals can have heart attack on your property, not only do you risk getting sued, you also pay for their heart transplant and they never get a bill... horrible situation but where do we go from here? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	that's such BS! illegal or not, they're human beings and they deserve at least a little bit of water. what the hell is going thru the heads of those all high-and-mighty a-holes in Arizona, when every single one of them is an immigrant of some sort?

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	All hail Lord Obama he will save us all.... Every now and then, Obama opens his eyes and the world springs into existence. When a tree falls in the forest, Obama hears it. Obama can clap with one hand. Prometheus was punished for plagiarizing Obama. Obama can make a journey of a thousand miles without a single step. Socks worn by Obama are used for climbing walls in Spiderman movies. Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race when she learned Obama's true name. "Obama" is the very first word in the English language to be a verb, adjective, noun, pronoun, adverb, interjection, superlative and pronad. (Pronad is a new category made specifically for the word "Obama" so its power can be fully realized). When Obama squints dreamily into the distance, he can see next week's lottery winning numbers. But he never plays because that would mean poverty of ambition. Obama can calculate your guilt just by looking at the numbers in your checkbook. A microphone into which Obama has spoken, heals asbestos-related disorders and colorectal cancer by direct application. Every time Obama talks about change, a baby diaper becomes clean and a homeless person's cup fills up with nickels. Every time Obama talks about "hope," coma patients regain consciousness and chant "We are the ones we've been waiting for." Obama's famous stare once converted 15 Islamic fundamentalists into secular progressives, all of whom are currently employed by Countrywide Home Loans. Obama is 50% typical White person. Obama's real mother was young John Kerry who reproduces asexually when coming into contact with foreign Marxists. Obama often says "uh" in his speeches in order to irritate Bill O'Rilley who hangs onto his every word. Obama always overpays his taxes because he believes that the government will find a better use for his money than he ever could. When Obama rids the world of nuclear weapons, the red button in his office will control the thermostats in American homes. Obama brings change to the world every time he closes his eyes and imagines that Twin Towers never existed. After a hearty meal Obama has been known to send off a tiny ripple of hope. This tiny ripple of hope in Chicago can cause change throughout the world. When Obama relaxes at home with his family he switches to a British accent. Obama's wife is a Klingon. Obama's children are named Child 1 and Child 2 respectively. Our universe is held together by the force of Michelle Obama's benevolent willpower, but her patience is running thin. Michelle Obama has saved humanity from destruction many times and is slightly annoyed that we haven't returned the favor. Monica Lewinsky owns "I Barack for Obama" bumper sticker. Everything Obama touches begins to vote Democrat. More dead people voted for Obama than for any other Democrat candidate in the history of Chicago politics. The tingle that crawled up Chris Matthews' leg has taken control of his brain and is reporting a full preparedness to take over the world. Obama can make things disappear just like David Copperfield can, but he hates taking things away from the community. US Mail Service published Obama's resume on a new first class stamp. In the movies, Obama's part is played by Robert Redford. Obama can inflate a hot air balloon in one blow. He does it for the children. Obama used to spell his name as Ubama but changed it to avoid confusion with Usama bin Laden. When Obama fixes his gaze on the clouds, he is reading his next great line from the big teleprompter in the sky, which is unseen to ordinary humans. One time the Republicans paid a voodoo priest to reprogram the teleprompter, and then Obama delivered the speech by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick instead of his own. But courageous journalist Bob Woodward uncovered the plot, forcing the Republicans to resign. As a result, Obama became even more popular with the downtrodden who didn't know that it was Gov. Patrick's speech. Obama wrote "Stairway to Heaven" and many other songs popular among the downtrodden. Obama's love for the downtrodden heats up the planet's atmosphere by 5.8 degrees Fahrenheit, while his loathing of George W. Bush cools it down by the same amount. That's why the scientists have been unable to detect any significant variations in average global temperatures. The main point of Al Gore's book "Earth in the Balance" is that a disastrous climate change can be averted if we all help keep Obama emotionally balanced. Obama visited Benjamin Franklin in a dream and told him how to live his life serving the community, but all that Franklin could remember was, how to fly a kite. Scientists discovered that a constant repetition of the words "hope" and "change" increases the size of penis in male patients by up to three inches. Any sentence containing the name "Obama" and ending in a question mark has been determined to be racist. The only exceptions are rhetorical sentences such as "Is there any way that Obama could be more perfect?" Obama smokes so you don't have to. Obama's cigarettes have been registered at the EPA as a renewable power source contributing 5,000 Megawatts of electricity to the national power grid every time he takes a draw. The "smoke" that comes out of Obama's mouth contains rare gases that help replenish the ozone layer and neutralize the industrial pollution. Obama once downed a Fox News satellite simply by clicking on a universal TV remote in his living room. Obama then reprogrammed the remaining satellites to broadcast reruns of Keith Olbermann's show, thus expanding the consciousness of the average American TV viewer and raising awareness by 19%. When Obama speaks about universal healthcare, the risk of cardiovascular diseases decreases by 58 percent, and the risk of cancer decreases by 60 percent. Obama knows that his healthcare plan is going to work because he personally tested it in a leper colony, where he healed everyone by shaking hands and kissing babies. In Portland, Oregon, Obama fed a multitude of 75 thousand with five government subsidy forms and two rolls of red tape. An unkind word about Obama's family serves as a passkey to the hottest rings of Hell. When Obama smiles, somewhere in America a door opens to an abortion clinic. When Obama claps his hands, a child is born in a Third World country. When Obama stomps his foot, a sweatshop closes in Asia, with thousands of children in the streets demanding that the United States send them financial aid, food, and medicine. Deep down, everyone's an Obama.