Pixel Tracking Sales..... WHAT!!!??? - GoFuckYourself.com

MIS · 08-07-2009, 01:57 PM

If you not sure what this is, well.... this is your chance to know what it is

Do any sponsors do this? processors do this? I was wondering if anyone does this, and how they would go about setting it up with sponsors/processors.

Pixel tracking is a small 1x1 image that is put on a "thank you" page after a sale. This pixel code is generated by a script by the affiliate and helps to track which sales came from what traffic source and which banners.

I already know about sponsors offering campaign creating option, so in b4 "we already do that with campaign creation"

Pleasurepays · 08-07-2009, 01:58 PM

are you on drugs son?

Allison · 08-07-2009, 02:05 PM

Most sponsors can add pixel tracking for a specific request, I know we can if it's specifically necessary or for a worthwhile deal.

GrouchyAdmin · 08-07-2009, 02:08 PM

It wouldn't be difficult to do that, but the question is what would necessitate such a thing.

xsabn · 08-07-2009, 02:09 PM

more sponsors should ad pixel tracking, its helps a lot converting, seeing where the traffic comes

Altheon · 08-07-2009, 02:09 PM

I think it would be awesome if there was some form of conversion tracking we could set up independently but I think the response from 99% of the sponsors will be: "hell no".

seeandsee · 08-07-2009, 02:09 PM

sponsors that have nothing to hide will do it

GrouchyAdmin · 08-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altheon

I think it would be awesome if there was some form of conversion tracking we could set up independently but I think the response from 99% of the sponsors will be: "hell no".

The biggest issue you are going to find is the overhead; even with a relatively simple system this is generating on average one table hit (at least) for any traffic that may not even visit the sponsor.

You're going to see more of a stats counter from this than any actual useful data with the commonly-used systems as they are now; unless the member actually visits the tour or the checkout page, it's mostly just overhead unless you're tracking nested - and that's going to take some decent design.

The other issue will be finding some common ground between the external software and the checkout. You can use a shared UUID set from the pixeltracker which will be read/used for checkout, but that's still not horribly useful.

kristin · 08-07-2009, 02:18 PM

I don't know a lot of companies that offer this straight out to WMs yet.

It's definitely one of the best ways to accurately track your clicks.

baddog · 08-07-2009, 02:24 PM

We do that ourselves. Don't need the program to do it for you.

TMM_John · 08-07-2009, 02:36 PM

Pixel tracking, which is a very old way of doing things, comes into play when the success/thank you page is controlled by a 3rd party. If I'm running and affiliate network and I have 100 merchants under it which I have no control over I need to ask them to put a "pixel" on their thank you page which will inform my network software that a sale occurred.

This is not the best way of tracking things as there are lots of things that can go wrong and lots of ways to mess with it. It is best to have the processor who is processing the sale notify the software of all transactions, which is what we do with NATS and what most in adult do. This is much more reliable and accurate. The adult industry in this respect is doing way better than mainstream. The requirement of doing it this way means that all processors/payment methods/etc. must be fully integrated with the affiliate software. We can do this in adult much more easily than a mainstream network of 100 merchants all processing in their own way could. It would be more cost effective for the affiliate program owner to say "put a pixel on your page that calls a script in my software" rather than invest the time to integrate 100 various systems.

The pixel is not helping to identify that a sale is "yours" in any way. It is simply posting info that a sale happened to the affiliate software/network.

If you are referring to the "pixel" posting back as a way for you, the affiliate, to get info when a sale occurs for your own internal stats/optimization then that is a bit different. NATS v4 can achieve this without the pixel by having NATS post to you when sales/transactions occur (configurable by the program owner).

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-07-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

It wouldn't be difficult to do that, but the question is what would necessitate such a thing.

Are you serious? I mean, I rarely seen you say something stupid. But this, well....

BradM · 08-07-2009, 03:09 PM

We allow affiliates to do this. It's just another way to verify sales. I have no problem doing it.

who · 08-07-2009, 03:11 PM

my god this thread is retarded.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-07-2009, 03:18 PM

Never had any trouble getting a pixel placed with any mainstream networks. A lot actually have the option for you to add your own pixel. Doubt you'll ever get one setup that easily in adult. Then the adult webmasters laugh about how shaving is openly accepted in mainstream? Shaving is fucking brutal in adult...

jigg · 09-05-2009, 08:02 PM

there is no reason why in 2009 a sponsor isn't supporting pixel tracking.
Mainstream is doing it more and more, automated or via your aff rep, and it's easy as copy and paste.
Google supports it too.

Mainstream ad networks support it as well.

i'd be weary of a sponsor who refuses to add my pixel if I ask them to

datatank · 09-05-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

We do that ourselves. Don't need the program to do it for you.

You have access to your customers browser after they join a sponsors paysite?

datatank · 09-05-2009, 08:38 PM

Quickbuck offers it too.
Yes there are some great reasons to use pixel tracking

PPC is just one of them

SeanLEE · 09-05-2009, 08:57 PM

Im quite sure most of these webmasters use a little bit of pixel tracking in their cookie dough- thus why sales are all over the place

fatfoo · 09-05-2009, 09:11 PM

Pixel tracking, sure, why not. It's no trouble to place a pixel.

Iron Fist · 09-05-2009, 09:19 PM

I want 100x100 pixels.... they are a 100 times more accurate than 1 pixels.

Nicky · 09-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Quick Buck offers pixel tracking to their affiliates. And $40+ PPS is nice too

Tango · 09-05-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

I want 100x100 pixels.... they are a 100 times more accurate than 1 pixels.

don't say shit like that on a Saturday night when half of us have drank a 1/2 case of something or another - god damn that was funny

Mutt · 09-06-2009, 12:26 AM

i don't understand, pixel tracking is ape technology - how is it better than creating campaigns in affiliate tracking software like NATS?

you think you can't be shaved using pixel tracking?

thegemini · 09-06-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigg

there is no reason why in 2009 a sponsor isn't supporting pixel tracking.
Mainstream is doing it more and more, automated or via your aff rep, and it's easy as copy and paste.
Google supports it too.

Mainstream ad networks support it as well.

i'd be weary of a sponsor who refuses to add my pixel if I ask them to

Could you please give some mainstream sponsors urls with pixel tracking? I will sign up under your ref

thegemini · 09-06-2009, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

i don't understand, pixel tracking is ape technology - how is it better than creating campaigns in affiliate tracking software like NATS?

you think you can't be shaved using pixel tracking?

You are correct, you don't understand.
If you advertise site under multiple keywords for multiple countries, then you would have to create campaign for each country/keyword combination.
i.e. 10 keywords + 5 countries = 50 campaigns.
You've got everything tracked but it's quite unreadable and you have to process results manually into xls or something. (You won't be able directly check country or keyword overall performance)
Not to mention that if you are using broad match keyword types then you won't know from which particular keyword user has arrived and bougt sth.

gideongallery · 09-06-2009, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegemini

You are correct, you don't understand.
If you advertise site under multiple keywords for multiple countries, then you would have to create campaign for each country/keyword combination.
i.e. 10 keywords + 5 countries = 50 campaigns.
You've got everything tracked but it's quite unreadable and you have to process results manually into xls or something. (You won't be able directly check country or keyword overall performance)
Not to mention that if you are using broad match keyword types then you won't know from which particular keyword user has arrived and bougt sth.

nats allows you to create the campaign dynamically by putting the keyword into the url string.

it only a couple of lines of code to pass the values into the url variable
and then an echo to write it out as html

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 09-06-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegemini

Could you please give some mainstream sponsors urls with pixel tracking? I will sign up under your ref

most if not all will support pixel tracking. i know neverblue allows the affiliate to add them yourself. i've seen it elsewhere. i just use neverblue a lot so i know them off the top of my head. great network...

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08-07-2009, 02:08 PM	#4
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	It wouldn't be difficult to do that, but the question is what would necessitate such a thing. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

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seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	sponsors that have nothing to hide will do it __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

08-07-2009, 02:18 PM	#9
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	I don't know a lot of companies that offer this straight out to WMs yet. It's definitely one of the best ways to accurately track your clicks. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

08-07-2009, 01:58 PM	#2
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	are you on drugs son?

08-07-2009, 02:09 PM	#5
xsabn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 203-069-778 Posts: 2,815	more sponsors should ad pixel tracking, its helps a lot converting, seeing where the traffic comes

08-07-2009, 02:09 PM	#6
Altheon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	I think it would be awesome if there was some form of conversion tracking we could set up independently but I think the response from 99% of the sponsors will be: "hell no".

08-07-2009, 02:24 PM	#10
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	We do that ourselves. Don't need the program to do it for you.

08-07-2009, 02:36 PM	#11
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	Pixel tracking, which is a very old way of doing things, comes into play when the success/thank you page is controlled by a 3rd party. If I'm running and affiliate network and I have 100 merchants under it which I have no control over I need to ask them to put a "pixel" on their thank you page which will inform my network software that a sale occurred. This is not the best way of tracking things as there are lots of things that can go wrong and lots of ways to mess with it. It is best to have the processor who is processing the sale notify the software of all transactions, which is what we do with NATS and what most in adult do. This is much more reliable and accurate. The adult industry in this respect is doing way better than mainstream. The requirement of doing it this way means that all processors/payment methods/etc. must be fully integrated with the affiliate software. We can do this in adult much more easily than a mainstream network of 100 merchants all processing in their own way could. It would be more cost effective for the affiliate program owner to say "put a pixel on your page that calls a script in my software" rather than invest the time to integrate 100 various systems. The pixel is not helping to identify that a sale is "yours" in any way. It is simply posting info that a sale happened to the affiliate software/network. If you are referring to the "pixel" posting back as a way for you, the affiliate, to get info when a sale occurs for your own internal stats/optimization then that is a bit different. NATS v4 can achieve this without the pixel by having NATS post to you when sales/transactions occur (configurable by the program owner). __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS! Last edited by TMM_John; 08-07-2009 at 02:38 PM..

08-07-2009, 03:09 PM	#13
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	We allow affiliates to do this. It's just another way to verify sales. I have no problem doing it.

08-07-2009, 03:11 PM	#14
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	my god this thread is retarded.

08-07-2009, 03:18 PM	#15
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	Never had any trouble getting a pixel placed with any mainstream networks. A lot actually have the option for you to add your own pixel. Doubt you'll ever get one setup that easily in adult. Then the adult webmasters laugh about how shaving is openly accepted in mainstream? Shaving is fucking brutal in adult...

09-05-2009, 08:02 PM	#16
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	there is no reason why in 2009 a sponsor isn't supporting pixel tracking. Mainstream is doing it more and more, automated or via your aff rep, and it's easy as copy and paste. Google supports it too. Mainstream ad networks support it as well. i'd be weary of a sponsor who refuses to add my pixel if I ask them to __________________ ...... eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two ...... Last edited by jigg; 09-05-2009 at 08:04 PM..

09-05-2009, 08:38 PM	#18
datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	Quickbuck offers it too. Yes there are some great reasons to use pixel tracking PPC is just one of them

09-05-2009, 08:57 PM	#19
SeanLEE Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,556	Im quite sure most of these webmasters use a little bit of pixel tracking in their cookie dough- thus why sales are all over the place __________________ I spammed in threads!

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fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	Pixel tracking, sure, why not. It's no trouble to place a pixel. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	I want 100x100 pixels.... they are a 100 times more accurate than 1 pixels. __________________ i like waffles

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Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	Quick Buck offers pixel tracking to their affiliates. And $40+ PPS is nice too __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

09-06-2009, 12:26 AM	#24
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i don't understand, pixel tracking is ape technology - how is it better than creating campaigns in affiliate tracking software like NATS? you think you can't be shaved using pixel tracking? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!