MadisonAvenue gone?

apparently

" Simoleon now holds offices in the United States, Panama, and the Philippines."

hmmm...

time to chargeback the load of funds i just put in there.

If so, this is a great opportunity for some people/companies that deal in traffic.

Let's just hope that all of the publishers and advertisers get all of their money...

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Very interesting, do you have transsexual sites that sell traffic, or is it strictly man on man gay?

Damn, anyone know what happened?

wow, that quick

Wow.

Well, I know that we're not going anywhere...

I don't think any publisher is getting paid. It's been 2 months I've been waiting, and I know there is many more getting screwed.

Mark needs to get his teeth kicked in.

oh shit..quick

The adult industry needs it's own auditor that assesses the financial health of companies that hold money for others. It could be like a hacker safe button with a real-time threat level.

(yes, I already know the 3,000 reasons why that would never work in the real world)

Wow... that blows!

At the moment it is purely man on man gay traffic. However, we would gladly make room for any transsexual sites that wish to sell traffic with us.

wow thats really fucked up. cant even log in which i guess ill never see a dime from them...

lol...

I need more beer!

sue them. they are not completely broke.. you just have to file first.

I hope not because I love your system.

Theyre outa here

thank baby Jesus ....I left that place a few months ago with a fist full of cash.

People may now need new sources:

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I'll throw a vote for JuicyAds.... lot and lots of long term sites in that database... sign up for free and throw $20.00 bucks in an account and try it out.... seriously.

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What is with all these bullshit companies who can't even stay in business from something as simple as traffic brokering, revshare programs or other stuff that doesn't take 2 brain cells to make decent money at?

Jumped on with them 1 month ago, they could have mentioned something, but of course as per usual there are no ethics or business principles in Adult industry business.

Did they even sell much Gay Traffic?

Another one bites the dust

Saw this earlier. Pretty crazy. Sorry that so many peeps are losing money from this development.

Sad news.

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I got lucky on this one. Marc Womack tried aggressively to recruit me into his publisher network back when he was new. But his interface at the time was wildly hostile and non-intuitive, and the high-pressure "give me your phone number so my guy in the Philippines can get on the phone with you to walk you through everything" stuff didn't work for me. So I never put any of my inventory with them.

All I've ever wanted was an ad broker with (1) a setup to let me directly sell my own inventory slots to advertisers coming in from my pages and (2) the ability to let me exercise absolute control over the ads that appear in my inventory slots. It's been a wild ride.

Adbrite was good at first, back before they got cold feet about adult and co-branded with the AVN people. The AVN co-branding was a disaster when that relationship started going sour; for a while they were literally stealing all the leads generated by the "your ad here" links on my pages, sending it to a generic "leave your email and our run-of-network salesmen will be in touch" page instead of to the advertising sales pages for my inventory.

Then the divorce was finalized and I was back to dealing with Adbrite, now branded as Black Label Ads. That was a disaster because they turned into thieves. Not only did they give themselves a thirty day payment holiday last November ("We are reaching out to inform you that we are changing the payment terms on your account from net 30 to the standard Black Label Ads payment terms of net 60") but even before that they changed their code to throw up an interstitial ad on my "your ad here" links that permanently institutionalize the "skimming my sales leads off to their run-of-network salesmen instead of sending my advertisers directly to my sales page" bullshit. They didn't even offer to pay a referral commission. When I complained, my account manager told me to get stuffed. ("The change that has been made is unilateral, affects all clients at all levels in our business and is not amendable.")

Oh, yeah, and also: Not to mention:

Meanwhile, they stopped disclosing the per-click pricing of the pay-per-click advertising they wanted to put in my zones, and started flooding me with extremely crappy non-performing network ads for penis pills and cams and credit-card-slamming dating sites. Basically, it all just went to shit. To cap it off, when I would get somebody who wanted to direct-buy an ad, I stopped getting emails to alert me, so I couldn't sell my own ads any more. (I never bothered to contact support about that, by then I was pulling my links and zones as fast as I could.)

I made a brief fling at trying Ero-Advertising but there were several things that did not work for me. I was in a bad mood that week and may not have given them a fair shake, nothing bad to report from the experience, just couldn't get their interface to deliver what I needed at the time. Might have been their feature set or their interface but was more probably a PEBKAC issue (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair).

All of which is by way of mentioning that I've been tinkering with Juicy Ads for the last two weeks and I'm liking it a lot so far. Nice clean interface that is intuitive and gives me what I want; very good ability to control the appearance and content of my ad zones; and good sales pages for potential advertisers who hit my "your ad here" links. Best of all, they do great click-through reporting in a way that puts a mutual incentive on advertiser and publisher alike to maximize click-throughs. And, rubber meets road, I've already picked up $500 in ad sales that I wouldn't have made without them. There's room for things to improve, in an "I've got a features wishlist" kind of way -- and I still have a TON of ad zones to roll out onto their network -- but I'm really enjoying the Juicy Ads publisher experience so far.

Even the bros can turn to ripping people off during tough times.

wasn't there some big domain guy behind that program?

their ad are still running on some large sites like www.cam4.com. . wonder if they will get paid

heard they took everyones money and just bailed.

Well, and also in tough times businesses can just flat fail. Even honest businessmen wind up owing money sometimes.

I know what it feels like to be a small businessman who can't meet payroll. Sucks. Sucks even worse to be the unpaid creditor, been there a lot more times.

A few of those times I felt I was deliberately ripped off. But most of them, it was just bad business; sometimes, it was just bad luck or a bad economy.

That's why the "unilateral payment holiday" thing is a red flag for me. Negotiating with creditors for more time is one thing; just taking it is quite another. I can stand being owed money, if the guy who owes me is up-front and trying to work things out. But I can't stand being told "I've decided I don't actually owe you the money for another thirty days." That's a sign that the debtor does not take his obligations seriously. You want to minimize your exposure to guys like that. They are not your bros, and you do not want to be theirs.

Maybe it's time to try www.ero-advertising.com again
And hit up JanH in his icq to ask if he can adapt some things to your requirements.

Not right now -- it's a ways from exactly what I'm looking for -- but I don't rule it out. I left with a "could do business, just not today" attitude.

Exactly, everyone is going to start with that hack "bro" bullshit, including some people that always seem to show up in these types of threads, but the fact remains that Madison Avenue was run by a guy with an excellent track record in this business, and you would have been justified in feeling that this company was going to be a success, too.

In my mainstream expediting business I have a stack of unpaid invoices from small businesses that my company ran routes for, and most of them used to pay like clockwork. Unfortunately times got tough, and I'm left hoping that I'll eventually get paid, even after I've already paid my contractors that ran the routes for me. I seriously doubt any of those small businesses set out to rip me off, they just fell on tough times in a tougher market. It sucks that people probably won't get paid, but saying that Marc Womack is "stealing" money is utter bullshit...

Wow.

Well it was known for a long time it we're not going anywhere!

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Hey F, hit me up.. maybe i can help you with your probs... i know our system is very complex but if you know how it works you can do a lot.

With our system you can serve your own iframes or bannercodes geotargeted to skip our networkads for your wanted countries including wheights.

Our advertisers can buy your spaces for your own prices geotargeted to, this is the best way becasue why should an advertiser buy an spot for worldwide traffic if he cant convert it but only foras example germany or Usa?

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Bad taste, bad bad taste.

So how did you know for a long time it was not going anywhere? Magic 8 ball or?

Bad reading, bad bad reading.

That is not what she said.

I need a new ad rotation service.

Hi Rob!
Check my sig...
after you read what Lloyd said.

one who learns not from the past is bound to...

He said it was known for a long time that it was not going anywhere...

How exactly did he know for a long time that it was not going anywhere?

I find that to be a simple question.

People"Publishers" was talking for a long time about madison.

That is exactly NOT what SHE (presuming Judy is a female) said.

She said, "Well it was known for a long time it we're not going anywhere!"

Pretty confident she is ESL. What is your excuse?

i reccommend any one who funded to contact their card companies now and charge back. send them links to all the threads and the site down notices and screen caps which i've already taken, etc.

he meant HIS company isn't going anywhere, in other words Ero Advertising is here for the long run