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Due 08-04-2009 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 16145640)
http://www.sin20.com/podcast/062209-...ndly-practices
The guy from ftc says if you have a prechecked cross sale that is a problem. You listen and after he says that there is an awkward silence in the room.
Someone made a huge mistake inviting FTC.

people are basically asking "how far can I go"
He is stating that the adult is not really on their list and people say "it's a growing problem"

Guess what industry just made it to the FTC watchlist :2 cents:

smutnut 08-04-2009 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16146565)
Because that would be illegal, I would go to jail for it. The FTC/DOJ and DEA would crawl up my ass then it would be Bubba's turn.

xSales, aren't illegal. And fine print when the total words on the join form are 20, I don't really think that's an issue.

Why not stop trials, xsales, upsells, cross sales, one clicks, emails at that, actually. Lets stop doing anything that others don't like and only start doing what others approve of.

That's a great thing for business... let's all do it the same!
Once again, I'm not saying to stop anything. And I'm less afraid of bubba than you. I'm just calling a duck a duck. You can fancy it up like that ponzi scheme guy but you'll still get what's coming to you if you are doing things that aren't what you think.

On the other hand if you can show me a way to make 5 grand in one hour I'll take the risk. I just know what I'm doing when I do it and don't try to delude myself

TheDoc 08-04-2009 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16146689)
Once again, I'm not saying to stop anything. And I'm less afraid of bubba than you. I'm just calling a duck a duck. You can fancy it up like that ponzi scheme guy but you'll still get what's coming to you if you are doing things that aren't what you think.
Oh, so the real point is... your morals don't align thus you think it's wrong or your totally stupid, one of the two.

You may want to look up the definition of a ponzi scheme is.

TheDoc 08-04-2009 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16146689)
On the other hand if you can show me a way to make 5 grand in one hour I'll take the risk. I just know what I'm doing when I do it and don't try to delude myself
If I was pullin 5k an hour .............. I wouldn't be here :)

smutnut 08-04-2009 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16146704)
If I was pullin 5k an hour .............. I wouldn't be here :)
At least one thing is clear

Barefootsies 08-04-2009 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16146438)
The shit you guys are talking about in this thread is the reason for the downfall of the industry.

I could give a fuck as long as I get mine, but it seems like you guys think there is a moralistic way to do things which I'm dying to hear more about :1orglaugh
On a side note, Warren Buffet had an interesting quote the other night on MSNBC. He was talking about this current economic situation. He was saying, if he was in a boat with Bernie Madoff and the hole in the boat was on his side of the boat, he would not be pointing and laughing. You have to get out of the crisis together regardless of who's in the boat.

*ponders*

TheDoc 08-04-2009 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16146715)
At least one thing is clear
Aye, I'm not the biggest of all affiliates in porn, that's for sure. My biggest combined day 'in porn' is just short of 15k.

tony286 08-04-2009 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16146752)
On a side note, Warren Buffet had an interesting quote the other night on MSNBC. He was talking about this current economic situation. He was saying, if he was in a boat with Bernie Madoff and the hole in the boat was on his side of the boat, he would not be pointing and laughing. You have to get out of the crisis together regardless of who's in the boat.

*ponders*
That's a great man with long term thinking. We have a serious deficit in that skill in our industry.

Barefootsies 08-04-2009 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 16146791)
We have a serious deficit in that skill in our industry.
True dat.

Brad Mitchell 08-04-2009 07:44 PM
The day the cross sales go away and the market corrects on payouts will be the dawn of a new beginning.. and like any other cataclysmic change, the end of days for some.

Brad

Barefootsies 08-04-2009 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 16147185)
The day the cross sales go away and the market corrects on payouts will be the dawn of a new beginning.. and like any other cataclysmic change, the end of days for some.

Brad
Agreed.

It will be the death toll for a number of programs, and a lot of affiliates.

Snake Doctor 08-04-2009 08:58 PM
I can only hope this comes to pass. What will assholes like this guy do
http://www.amateurcleavage.com/gfy/12dicks.gif
when they can't make millions by hiding a charge for their site on someone else's join page?

I guess he'll have more time to spend on GFY calling people names.

Paul Markham 08-04-2009 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 16146438)
Hold on, I'm the least moralistic or judgemental person on the planet, but when I'm ripping someone off I know it. I'm not one of these people who point my fingers at tube sites or people giving away too much free porn and blame them for the fall of the industry.

The shit you guys are talking about in this thread is the reason for the downfall of the industry.

I could give a fuck as long as I get mine, but it seems like you guys think there is a moralistic way to do things which I'm dying to hear more about :1orglaugh
The situation with this business is the same people buy porn, week after week or month after month. Yet we treat them like one off buyers who can always be replaced. Welcome to the results of thinking ME,ME, ME for years. Many buyers have turned their backs on us.

NETbilling 08-04-2009 11:25 PM
If we play by the rules, we don't get hurt....


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