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  • C H R I S
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    • Nov 2005
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    THE CONSUMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT -From August AVN Online

    The latest imminent ?death? of the adult paysite subscription model

    Regarding the supposedly imminent demise of the online subscription model as the main method of accessing porn sites, Mark Twain may not have quipped, "The rumors of its death have been greatly exaggerated," but he might very well have were he alive to comment on the state of adult commerce. Though he also might have said that if subscription models don't adapt to the times, they should die, for such was the great man's understanding of the ebb and flow of the markets.

    Online subscription models made sense the moment technology allowed them, not least because people recognized them from their offline dealings. It was a proven form of interaction, which is why content-based businesses began replicating their offline subscription models online right from the start, with middling success.

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  • munki
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    • Dec 2004
    • 13393

    #2
    Great read

    I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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    • fris
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      • Aug 2002
      • 55690

      #3
      is it true avn is going out of bizness?
      Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence.

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      • Mutt
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Sep 2002
        • 34431

        #4
        Originally posted by fris
        is it true avn is going out of bizness?
        cue Alanis Morrissette
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        • F-U-Jimmy
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          • Apr 2006
          • 6853

          #5
          I thought they went years ago
          icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!

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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            It was an interesting read.

            Enjoyed it last week while on the shitter.
            Should You Email Your Members?

            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

            Enough Said.

            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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            • SBJ
              So Fucking Fabulous
              • Apr 2003
              • 11387

              #7
              Originally posted by Barefootsies
              It was an interesting read.

              Enjoyed it last week while on the shitter.
              too much info

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              • C H R I S
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                • Nov 2005
                • 10842

                #8
                Originally posted by fris
                is it true avn is going out of bizness?
                LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

                Thanks for the positive input...
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                • C H R I S
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                  • Nov 2005
                  • 10842

                  #9
                  This is also a great read....

                  WHERE HAVE ALL THE AFFILIATES GONE?

                  The ranks may be dwindling, but good recruits and loyal veterans remain valuable weapons in the online marketing arsenal.

                  By Kathee Brewer
                  08/01/2009
                  Affiliates are the lifeblood of online marketing ? right?

                  Once upon a time, the answer to that question was so self-evident as to need no voice. Especially in the adult entertainment industry ? often credited with creating the virtual equivalent of a business model successfully employed for decades by brick-and-mortar companies like Amway and Avon ? recruiting, equipping and deploying an army of sales associates made the difference between rousing financial victory and inglorious defeat. Traditionally, affiliates composed the troops upon whose shoulders Web-based adult empires rose to prominence. Among the fields of cyberspace, some of the most successful affiliates even developed affiliate armies of their own.

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AVNChris
                    This is also a great read....

                    WHERE HAVE ALL THE AFFILIATES GONE?

                    The ranks may be dwindling, but good recruits and loyal veterans remain valuable weapons in the online marketing arsenal.

                    By Kathee Brewer
                    08/01/2009
                    Affiliates are the lifeblood of online marketing ? right?

                    Once upon a time, the answer to that question was so self-evident as to need no voice. Especially in the adult entertainment industry ? often credited with creating the virtual equivalent of a business model successfully employed for decades by brick-and-mortar companies like Amway and Avon ? recruiting, equipping and deploying an army of sales associates made the difference between rousing financial victory and inglorious defeat. Traditionally, affiliates composed the troops upon whose shoulders Web-based adult empires rose to prominence. Among the fields of cyberspace, some of the most successful affiliates even developed affiliate armies of their own.

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                    Agreed.

                    Traffic, affiliates, among other related points have been interesting seminars at the conferences. Especially the programs detailing how they are moving to generating their own traffic in-house and becoming less defendant on affiliate, and whales.

                    Should You Email Your Members?

                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                    Enough Said.

                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                    • tigermtb
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 1062

                      #11
                      There are so many variables related to the current situation.. innovation is the only way out and we will find the way.
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                      • C H R I S
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 10842

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                        Agreed.

                        Traffic, affiliates, among other related points have been interesting seminars at the conferences. Especially the programs detailing how they are moving to generating their own traffic in-house and becoming less defendant on affiliate, and whales.



                        See you at the Internext, we should sit down and chat
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                        • WiredGuy
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512

                          #13
                          With the reduction of affiliates going on, I wonder what will happen at shows, seems these shows are about 90% b2b and 10% webmasters. I remember less than 5 years ago it was the other way around.
                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                          • VeriSexy
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                            • Apr 2002
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                            #14
                            A nice article, good read
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                            • snaker
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1281

                              #15
                              Good stuff,

                              Im skeptical on the whole "mobile porn" that programs are trumpeting as the next big thing.

                              Jerking off to your iphones 3.5 inch screen? I just dont see surfers buyin mobile porn right now
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                              • fris
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 55690

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AVNChris
                                LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

                                Thanks for the positive input...
                                My bad i just read a news article a couple days ago

                                It seems that even porn is not immune from the recession. AVN Online, the offshoot of the trade publication Adult Video News, is ceasing publication. AVN Publisher Tony Lovett wrote to subscribers today saying, "This past year, the economic downturn has taken a harsh toll on industries across the board. Advertising budgets dwindled or disappeared altogether, and trade publications suffered as a consequence. At the same time, we at AVN Media Network began to see a consolidation of the industries."
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                                • JFK
                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 67373

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by AVNChris
                                  LOL - Yeah, we're all flying to Miami for the going out of business party. Y'know Internext.

                                  Thanks for the positive input...
                                  See you there Chris, chill the beer

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                                  • gideongallery
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                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 7082

                                    #18
                                    there are more types of subscriptions then subscriptions for content.

                                    “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                    • Pleasurepays
                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 11913

                                      #19
                                      hahahahahahahhaha

                                      AVN Article - "the consumer is always right"

                                      AVN Announcement - "AVN is going out of business"

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                                      • Voodoo
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                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 10600

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                        With the reduction of affiliates going on, I wonder what will happen at shows, seems these shows are about 90% b2b and 10% webmasters. I remember less than 5 years ago it was the other way around.
                                        WG
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                                        • C H R I S
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Nov 2005
                                          • 10842

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by fris
                                          My bad i just read a news article a couple days ago
                                          And you assumed we were going out of businesss from am article on the
                                          consolidtion of a few of our magazine?

                                          AVN does alot more than publish magazines- and in no uncertain terms we
                                          will be around for years to come.
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