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Gnus · 07-21-2009, 09:04 AM

Ok last thursday we entered an agreement with a dealer on a new car. Price, interest rate, etc. Ok we get a call today saying that CEFCU what's a higher interest than what was agreed upon but in exchange they are going to drop the price we negotiated on the car. I thought a deal was a deal. Can they do this? Can we just tell them here's the car back and forget about it? We signed all the paper work on the car thursday.

Gary

BradM · 07-21-2009, 09:06 AM

Gary,
I had a similar experience. Call them and tell them you're returning the car as the deal proposed doesn't match the contract you signed. Walk in with the keys and put them on the desk of the manager, and have the contract shredded with an addendum stating you returned the car and the deal is void. Keep this record.

When I went to hand my keys in, I got to the desk of the finance manager and magically they were able to hold the deal as per the original terms. By some kind of miracle I guess.

But this voids the contract so you can release liability - from what I gathered and what I experienced.

Gnus · 07-21-2009, 09:12 AM

Ok we had a trade in too. If we returned the vehicle do we get our car we traded back?

Gary

Rochard · 07-21-2009, 09:26 AM

I'm not sure what the legal issues are, but once you sign your name on their contract and drive off with the car, they can't change the deal.

A dealership did this to me with my first car. I walked in, listen to their story, said no, and walked out. The car was mine, legally in my name, and that was that.

BradM · 07-21-2009, 09:27 AM

They would in that case have to return your trade in to you in the condition you gave it to them in.

Be aware this is CA law, and I consulted a CA lawyer. This may be very different in IL.

But the more time you waste the worse off it will be. So go in with the keys and get it done now or there may be a time limit. I think it was a week in CA ( don't recall the exact time frame sorry )

Gnus · 07-21-2009, 10:13 AM

Thanks Brad and Rochard for the advice. Did a little search on it and found this. http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/inde...ntentID=25 00

Going to take the car back tomorrow after we talk to our lawyer.

Gary

dav3 · 07-21-2009, 10:15 AM

shady bastards, good luck man

tranza · 07-21-2009, 10:39 AM

Out of curiosity: what car is it?

Deesnuts · 07-21-2009, 11:06 AM

never trust a dealer

Adam X · 07-21-2009, 11:47 AM

Sounds like one of those scams I read about recently ... I think it was on yahoo.. dealership scams..

they do a deal, get you all signed into paperwork, then change the rates hoping you'll bite after all work you've invested to get to that point... advice in the article was that you should cancel the deal, unless of course they suddenly allow the original deal to go through after telling them you're walking away from it..

CYF · 07-21-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

Thanks Brad and Rochard for the advice. Did a little search on it and found this. http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/inde...ntentID=25 00

Going to take the car back tomorrow after we talk to our lawyer.

Gary

Nice link, that explains everything right there. Sounds like the law is on your side and you can get lawyer fees out of the deal too.

Lawyer up and tell them to fuck off

Gnus · 07-22-2009, 05:31 PM

I went in, handed them the keys to the new car and said "original deal or no deal". They tried to haggle but I stuck to my guns and said "original deal or no deal". I got my car back and down payment. They knew they blew it. I had to say it about 15 times before they got it threw their thick skulls.

Gary

SleazyDream · 07-22-2009, 05:36 PM

and people think pornographers are bad LOL

Gnus · 07-31-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Out of curiosity: what car is it?

We went to a different dealer and got exactly what we was looking for and then some. We bought a 2009 Dodge Caliber SXT fully loaded. The Cash for Clunkers and Dodge's rebate we got a total of $8,000 in rebates. We ended up walking off the lot with a $20,000 car for $12,500. We traded in our 1999 Ford Explorer Sport we've owned for 7 years and it had 207,000 miles on it. It sounds like we did it just in time too. Seems they have ran out of money for the program as of today.

Gary

Gnus · 07-31-2009, 12:11 PM

Here's a pic of the new car.

Gary

Manowar · 07-31-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

We went to a different dealer and got exactly what we was looking for and then some. We bought a 2009 Dodge Caliber SXT fully loaded. The Cash for Clunkers and Dodge's rebate we got a total of $8,000 in rebates. We ended up walking off the lot with a $20,000 car for $12,500. We traded in our 1999 Ford Explorer Sport we've owned for 7 years and it had 207,000 miles on it. It sounds like we did it just in time too. Seems they have ran out of money for the program as of today.

Gary

sounds like an awesome deal man

Porn Grounds · 07-31-2009, 12:19 PM

Killer deal!

Awesome work on those assholes too! I would have been pissed!

dav3 · 07-31-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnus

I went in, handed them the keys to the new car and said "original deal or no deal". They tried to haggle but I stuck to my guns and said "original deal or no deal". I got my car back and down payment. They knew they blew it. I had to say it about 15 times before they got it threw their thick skulls.

Gary

Outstanding!

d-null · 07-31-2009, 05:18 PM

that is surprising that they didn't give you the original deal that was signed for rather than cancel it all, should have maybe had your lawyer handle it and demand the original deal or sue them for breach of contract

bloggerz · 07-31-2009, 05:56 PM

so you have no new car?

Devils Advocate · 07-31-2009, 06:00 PM

i would not be a happy camper if this happened to me!

Gnus · 07-31-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Porn Grounds

Killer deal!

Awesome work on those assholes too! I would have been pissed!

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Originally Posted by Devils Advocate

i would not be a happy camper if this happened to me!

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Originally Posted by d-null

that is surprising that they didn't give you the original deal that was signed for rather than cancel it all, should have maybe had your lawyer handle it and demand the original deal or sue them for breach of contract

We was very pissed off and yes we could of got a lawyer and probably would of had the deal but I felt after them doing what they did I didn't want to deal with them at all plus more time and money which is the a waste in my opinion. They was just shady about the whole thing. It all worked out in the end with another dealer and we even got a better deal.

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Originally Posted by bloggerz

so you have no new car?

Yes we do have a new 2009 Dodge Caliber SXT. Just went through another car dealer is all.

Gary

07-21-2009, 09:04 AM	#1
Gnus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 577	Question regarding buying a new car Ok last thursday we entered an agreement with a dealer on a new car. Price, interest rate, etc. Ok we get a call today saying that CEFCU what's a higher interest than what was agreed upon but in exchange they are going to drop the price we negotiated on the car. I thought a deal was a deal. Can they do this? Can we just tell them here's the car back and forget about it? We signed all the paper work on the car thursday. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782 Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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Gnus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 577	Thanks Brad and Rochard for the advice. Did a little search on it and found this. http://www.illinoislegalaid.org/inde...ntentID=25 00 Going to take the car back tomorrow after we talk to our lawyer. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782 Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Gary, I had a similar experience. Call them and tell them you're returning the car as the deal proposed doesn't match the contract you signed. Walk in with the keys and put them on the desk of the manager, and have the contract shredded with an addendum stating you returned the car and the deal is void. Keep this record. When I went to hand my keys in, I got to the desk of the finance manager and magically they were able to hold the deal as per the original terms. By some kind of miracle I guess. But this voids the contract so you can release liability - from what I gathered and what I experienced.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	They would in that case have to return your trade in to you in the condition you gave it to them in. Be aware this is CA law, and I consulted a CA lawyer. This may be very different in IL. But the more time you waste the worse off it will be. So go in with the keys and get it done now or there may be a time limit. I think it was a week in CA ( don't recall the exact time frame sorry )

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Gnus Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 577	I went in, handed them the keys to the new car and said "original deal or no deal". They tried to haggle but I stuck to my guns and said "original deal or no deal". I got my car back and down payment. They knew they blew it. I had to say it about 15 times before they got it threw their thick skulls. Gary __________________ ICQ -73665782 Domains for sale - milfwatch.com $2k, pornnut.com $500, assforu.com $2K, xxxratedonly.com $1K Last edited by Gnus; 07-22-2009 at 05:32 PM.. Reason: added quotes

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	that is surprising that they didn't give you the original deal that was signed for rather than cancel it all, should have maybe had your lawyer handle it and demand the original deal or sue them for breach of contract __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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