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  • Elli
    Reach for those stars!
    • Apr 2003
    • 17991
    #101
    I believe the delicate term is "First Nations."

    Any club will look lame with the lights on. I was quite surprised the first time I saw one of my favourite haunts with the lights on and all the sticky tables, etc etc. Not to mention the bartender wasn't nearly as hot as with the lights off... ;)

    Kudos to Scott for giving it a try in a terribly competitive and rough industry.
    email: [email protected]

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      • SleazyDream
        I'm here for SPORT
        • Jul 2001
        • 41470
        #102
        Originally posted by lazycash
        I understand your point, but for 6 years on this board the majority of Sleazy's posts were self righteous and people are remembering them now that he's down.
        actually i WAS down, now that i'm BACK in adult i don't consider myself down anymore
        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

        Now read without the word dog.

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          • SleazyDream
            I'm here for SPORT
            • Jul 2001
            • 41470
            #103
            Originally posted by NTM
            What does this have to do with anything?

            You said Sleazy was some kind of business genius, and that most people won't achieve anything close to him.

            Well, to me it looks like Sleazy hasn't achieved shit. He got hustled by some idiots for hundreds on thousands of money, ran into the ground his club and his online business, and finally announced bankruptcy.

            Just pointing out that there isn't anything special about him.

            Actually, everything points to him being an idiot.
            my online biz isn't in the ground, it's still doing well actually
            This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

            Now read without the word dog.

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              • Anthony
                Keyboard Warrior
                • Feb 2001
                • 9653
                #104
                Shitty fucking thread.

                Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.

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                  • STAROTICA
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1079
                    #105
                    Originally posted by Vexes
                    Is Randy West still alive?
                    bashing threads are just way 2




                    btw...i am not laughing at you Sleazy....just the attempts of the others with weak board put downs.....come on people....

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                      • datatank
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 5471
                        #106
                        How are there high end aboriginals in this town?
                        Im fascinated

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                          • Dirty Dane
                            Sick Fuck
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 9491
                            #107
                            Originally posted by Farang

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                              • digitaldivas
                                ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 4328
                                #108
                                Originally posted by San
                                I guess not many people have been to real clubs.

                                If you visited European club scene, you'd probably shit yourself.


                                ....lmafo, how right you are! ...what he said
                                ...

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                                  • pocketkangaroo
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2005
                                    • 8452
                                    #109
                                    The club looks fine aesthetically. It looks more like an issue with bringing in the right types of people. 90% of running a succesful club is being able to draw in the right crowds and have the right people doing it.

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                                      • Mutt
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 34431
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                        The club looks fine aesthetically. It looks more like an issue with bringing in the right types of people. 90% of running a succesful club is being able to draw in the right crowds and have the right people doing it.

                                        you're talking about Winnipeg - the murder capital of Canada. it's a rough town. I always ask John what do the young affluent 30 and 40 something year old people like lawyers, accountants, corporate types do there. they don't have much choice.
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                                          • lazycash
                                            Troll Patrol
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 15214
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by JFK
                                            Please dont confuse his board persona ,with him in real life. BUT , I understand what you are saying
                                            Even Sleazy disagrees with you.
                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                            I act in person EXACTLY as I act on GFY.
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                                            Its crazy..."

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                                              • Ron2k1
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 1573
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                my online biz isn't in the ground, it's still doing well actually
                                                It sure does, but what will happen next year?

                                                Your traffic will be gone soon, only if you inovate you will keep on track

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                                                  • Adam_M
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                    • 3800
                                                    #113
                                                    Maybe not the hottest club in town but fuck, how many other GFY'ers own night clubs?
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                                                      • JFK
                                                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 67373
                                                        #114
                                                        Originally posted by lazycash
                                                        Even Sleazy disagrees with you.
                                                        What the fuck does he know ?

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                                                          • StickyGreen
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                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 13076
                                                            #115
                                                            lol @ Winnipeg...
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                                                              • Agent 488
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                • 22511
                                                                #116
                                                                that you tried to bring in a native gang crowd when your previous experience was an internet and message board kingpin shows how extremely naive you were.

                                                                people must have been licking their chops when they saw such a fat and easy mark walk into their view.

                                                                no hate. but just grab some street sense.

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                                                                  • 2012
                                                                    So Fucking What
                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                    • 17189
                                                                    #117
                                                                    at least he can say he owned a club once
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                                                                      • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by Adam_WildCash
                                                                        Maybe not the hottest club in town but fuck, how many other GFY'ers own night clubs?
                                                                        Every single one of them, and it's the hottest club in the WORLD, VIP even wait in line for the VIPMITVIP (Very Important People, More Important Than VIP), to do their thing.

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                                                                          • lagcam
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2007
                                                                            • 2890
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

                                                                            I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

                                                                            I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

                                                                            For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

                                                                            Anyway good luck sleazy.
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                                                                              • ArsewithClass
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Mar 2007
                                                                                • 7957
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                Shitty fucking thread.

                                                                                Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.
                                                                                He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!

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                                                                                  • Blingbaby
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                    • 1079
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by JimmiDean
                                                                                    Looks like any other night club to me ?
                                                                                    Looks like a tacky bar that would take forever to turn a profit..

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                                                                                      • Blingbaby
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2006
                                                                                        • 1079
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                        Besides the small crowd, what do you see that's so crappy about it? Seriously.
                                                                                        Your taste in women pretty much disqualifies you to even comment in this thread

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                                                                                          • Blingbaby
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Mar 2006
                                                                                            • 1079
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                            I understand your point, but for 6 years on this board the majority of Sleazy's posts were self righteous and people are remembering them now that he's down.
                                                                                            Karma's a bitch!

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                                                                                              • STAROTICA
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                • 1079
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                                                                                He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!


                                                                                                I would like to see more of them......I look in phone book....see none.....

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                                                                                                  • Blingbaby
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2006
                                                                                                    • 1079
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                                                    Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

                                                                                                    I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

                                                                                                    I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

                                                                                                    For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

                                                                                                    Anyway good luck sleazy.
                                                                                                    There have been over the years plenty threads with people that went down on their luck and the responses in this post so far are tame compared to the malice Sleazy spit into the faces of people that found themselves in the same shoes he found himself in.

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                                                                                                      • bauhaus
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                                                        • 773
                                                                                                        #126
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                                                                                                          • cam_girls
                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                            • Apr 2009
                                                                                                            • 2968
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            most of the clubs I went to were just big empty rooms with a bar. Looks like a huge club. But I think Sleazy overreacted to the gun, if you're using metal detectors then your bouncers slacked off, just increase security, open up the 2nd floor and double the crowd.

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                                                                                                              • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                • 41470
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                Originally posted by lagcam

                                                                                                                For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

                                                                                                                Anyway good luck sleazy.
                                                                                                                that says a lot..

                                                                                                                thank you for the kind words
                                                                                                                This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                  • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                    • 41470
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                                                                                                    He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!
                                                                                                                    i soooo want to own a swing club one day, it's the ONLY kind of club I'm interested in
                                                                                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                      • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                        I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                        • 41470
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Blingbaby
                                                                                                                        There have been over the years plenty threads with people that went down on their luck and the responses in this post so far are tame compared to the malice Sleazy spit into the faces of people that found themselves in the same shoes he found himself in.
                                                                                                                        can you show me one example?
                                                                                                                        This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                        Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                          • CDSmith
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                                                                            • 51460
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                            that isn't a client, that's one of my security guards... he's 6'3 and in the biz for 20+ years. VERY scarry guy to people who were bad..... lol

                                                                                                                            rob was awesome. I believed in older guards, they are much better
                                                                                                                            That looks like the same Rob I worked with a few times at the outdoor rock fests around Manitoba years ago.

                                                                                                                            If so he's a good guy, definitely the right temperment for door work.
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                                                                                                                              • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                • 38323
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                                                                                                                He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                i soooo want to own a swing club one day, it's the ONLY kind of club I'm interested in
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                                                                                                                                  • MichaelP
                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 7124
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by JFK
                                                                                                                                    You are right, clubs do look like that with the lights on, its the lights dimmed and the crowds at night and the music that create the athmosphere. Stop the hate, a lot of you trolls will never make in your lifetime, what Scott has done in the last few years
                                                                                                                                    words of wisdom as usual

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                                                                                                                                      • Nicky
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 30071
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Anthony
                                                                                                                                        Shitty fucking thread.

                                                                                                                                        Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.
                                                                                                                                        I have to agree.

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                                                                                                                                          • alias
                                                                                                                                            aliasx
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 19010
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            RT@
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                                                                                            that you tried to bring in a native gang crowd when your previous experience was an internet and message board kingpin shows how extremely naive you were.

                                                                                                                                            people must have been licking their chops when they saw such a fat and easy mark walk into their view.

                                                                                                                                            no hate. but just grab some street sense.
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                                                                                                                                              • Vitasoy
                                                                                                                                                GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 58202
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                                http://www.icx.ca/PropertyPhotos.asp...ertyID=8428624









                                                                                                                                                looks decent to me, just poor lighting in the pics and not enough folks chilling


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                                                                                                                                                  • MichaelP
                                                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                    • 7124
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by ztik
                                                                                                                                                    OMG someone needs to post pics of that shit, was so funny so "elite"


                                                                                                                                                    The one at Byscaine Bay's Castle in Florida at Internext (few years ago) was very nice an fun

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                                                                                                                                                      • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 14141
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        FYI: SleazyTube.com is for sale.

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                                                                                                                                                          • BV
                                                                                                                                                            wtf
                                                                                                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 10914
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            No risk no reward.

                                                                                                                                                            You win some and you lose some.

                                                                                                                                                            Life goes on.

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                                                                                                                                                              • xenigo
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 8067
                                                                                                                                                                #140
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by atom
                                                                                                                                                                Does it really surprise anyone that somebody is digging at sleazy on the board? I have nothing against him (except that damn business card he gave me that almost killed me) He was an ass to a lot of people on this board for a lot of years. I'm actually surprised more people are not shitting on him atm.

                                                                                                                                                                Welcome back sleazy ;-)
                                                                                                                                                                He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

                                                                                                                                                                I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

                                                                                                                                                                Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 41470
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by xenigo
                                                                                                                                                                    He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

                                                                                                                                                                    I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

                                                                                                                                                                    Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.

                                                                                                                                                                    can you quote one instance where I did that?
                                                                                                                                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                                                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                                                                                      • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 25463
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                        here's some pics of the club from when i took it over





                                                                                                                                                                        Looks decent to me
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                                                                                                                                                                          • robfantasy
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 6445
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            club advice:

                                                                                                                                                                            since the area you are in is not filled w/ beautiful sexy people or high rolling VIP's, you should have turned that into a gay friendly club.

                                                                                                                                                                            believe it or not, gay friendly clubs (where gays and gay activity is tolerated but straights still come to party) make alot of money.

                                                                                                                                                                            im not saying a hard core gay club with leather pants and no shirts, but where college kids and gay first timers come for the dance music and the bi curious get turned out.

                                                                                                                                                                            i know lots of straight people who own these types of clubs and make a killing
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                                                                                                                                                                              • mikesinner
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                • 5646
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by San
                                                                                                                                                                                Jesus Christs, how can you even call it a club







                                                                                                                                                                                Coming from you, this doesn't sound too encouraging.
                                                                                                                                                                                Looks like most clubs in the Midwest to me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 23400
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                                                                                    lol @ Winnipeg...
                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah.. don't come here... you'd probably get shot anyways.
                                                                                                                                                                                    i like waffles

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 38323
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Iron Fist
                                                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 23400
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                                                                                                                                                            you live in the peg. you never heard of sonar at all?
                                                                                                                                                                                            I have.. just never went... I don't really frequent a lot of the club lately anyways.... just too much bullshit after hours and I'm getting too old for bullshit these days
                                                                                                                                                                                            i like waffles

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Ross
                                                                                                                                                                                                Ik ben een aap
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 18874
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Scott McD
                                                                                                                                                                                                Damn that dude is huge !!
                                                                                                                                                                                                No shit eh? Our clubs dont even let guys half his size in for fear that it will take too many bouncers to control him if it all kicks off... We have a hard time getting Mick and Steven into clubs, they would be like bean poles next to this dude!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • NikKay
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    [QUOTE=lagcam;16121234]Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Quoted for "I totally agree!"

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Quite a few have gotten puffy chests over the years and acted like assholes, and I can't say whether or not Sleazy was one of them. So maybe karma was due... or maybe it was just bad luck and/or bad decisions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Either way, it's not a bad looking club for the location. I live in Raleigh, NC and we certainly don't have any "European" style clubs to compare what we do have to. If someone opened a club like this here and catered to the 21+ college crowd, they'd do well for at least a few months.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • ronaldo
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by xenigo
                                                                                                                                                                                                        He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        On the boards? I might agree. In the INDUSTRY? Totally disagree. The industry extends far beyond GFY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm not a big fan of board personas and I disagree with Sleazy if he says he acts the same on GFY as he does in person. He can come ACROSS that way in person in a casual encounter (he did the first couple of times I met him), but if you actually spend some time with him, he's one of the most generous people in the industry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        The last time I think I saw Scott was at the Vegas (I THINK) airport and he was with his brother. We had hung out a few times before and we were just shooting the shit and for absolutely no reason, he asked me if I'd like an upgrade to first class. After a show I was always exhausted and hate flying so don't do anything other than sleep on the plane, so I politely declined. There are a TON of other stories like that about Scott out there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Anyways, sorry to hear about your club Scott. I'd been wanting to get out there and pop in for a visit but frankly, rarely if ever drive in to Winnipeg. The mom-in-law is there so I tend to steer clear. Good to see you back even if the circumstances are less than ideal.

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