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Old 12-02-2002, 11:20 PM   #1
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the fag has left the building...

Over the last few months i've noticed an increase in anti-gay posters and postings on this board. Being gay, i've learned to just ignore ignorant people who talk without knowing what the hell they're talking about. Ignoring homophobes is just part of it all, and I accept that. But there is a huge difference between a homophobic person, and someone who intentionally verbally assaults another person.

I remember a while back when someone called one of the female posters a c*nt. That person was banned and the word censored, because this is derrogatory to women and fellow webmasters.

However, we gay webmasters are routinely called fags, faggots, fairies, fudge packers, etc and no one seems to care. We are constantly being attacked on a personal level, much like the aforementioned female colleague, yet nothing is done about it. I'm not asking for anything special here, just to be treated the same as anyone else.

We are told we're not normal. We're compared to dog-fuckers. We are made to feel less than human and are just treated like shit in general. Again, all very personal attacks, much like the person who attacked someone's kid a while back too. But since we're just "fags", it doesn't matter apparently.

Stupid things get this board into huge discussions about who is "right" and who is "wrong"... things like signatures. Those of you who I'm speaking of, believe its perfectly ok for you to put straight sex pics in your sigs and posts, but horribly wrong for us to post gay pics. If there is anything I can't stand, its an illogical hypocrite. But then again, hypocracy itself is illogical.

The whole attitude in general bothers me. If you can't stand to see me post on this board, what's going to happen when you see me at a convention? If I don't know who you are, and hand you a card, are you going to punch me? Are you going to call me a faggot to my face and try to start some shit? GFY is hostile, and that's part of the appeal, but you create a very hostile environment off the board because now I've got a list of people I have to avoid anytime I go anywhere on business, for fear of getting the shit beat out of me.

You think I'm being lame and paranoid? I've had my life threatened at least a dozen times on and off this board simply because I'm gay. Read through the posts, you'll see things like "they should just be lined up against the nearest wall and terminated" repeated over and over.

Oh, yeah, speaking of off the board.... Would those of you who ICQ me now and then telling me what a faggot I am and how I should be "put to death like the jews" and "shipped off to an island of faggots" please start using your real ICQ so I can figure out who you are? Especially whoever it was that messaged me today and told me that you "can't wait to see you in January so I can teach you how to be a real man you fucking freak of nature faggot." I'd really like to make sure I don't ever bump into you.

So, anyway... I could go on and on, there are tons of posts for me to reference to prove my point that this board does not care if someone personally attacks a gay guy, but goes crazy if anyone personally attacks a female webmaster or their kids, or anyone else for that matter. I've done my venting and I hope I've made my point.

My sexuality has nothing to do with business, yet anytime I post here I'm personally attacked. I'm even attacked when I don't post here and people wonder where I am. I'm sure this post will draw even more attacks and bullshit. But whatever.... I'm gone.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:24 PM   #2
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Oh, yeah, speaking of off the board.... Would those of you who ICQ me now and then telling me what a faggot I am and how I should be "put to death like the jews" and "shipped off to an island of faggots" please start using your real ICQ so I can figure out who you are? Especially whoever it was that messaged me today and told me that you "can't wait to see you in January so I can teach you how to be a real man you fucking freak of nature faggot." I'd really like to make sure I don't ever bump into you.
Ouch.

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Old 12-02-2002, 11:25 PM   #3
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If you let the smacktards off this board get to you, then they win. Do like I do and laugh at all the little mongoloid motherfuckers. These people are nothing to get worked up over. Broke teenage boys living out some porn fantasy. They lost from the start.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:27 PM   #4
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damn, thats bullshit. some of the nicest guys just happen to be gay. less ignorant macho alpha males who wouldn't eat a piece of toast if someone told them it was gay.
Or pathetic little kids whose only thing in common with their friends besides being ignorant is being assholes.
This is ridiculous.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:30 PM   #5
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Labret's right.

Most of the people threatening you couldn't beat the shit out of a 6 year old girl who had the flu anyways. They're all badasses because they're sitting behind their computers, and tha's about it. In the real world they're a bunch of little cowardly shits.

Don't leave, Dawgy.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:31 PM   #6
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Just put the 15 year old fuckers on "ignore". Not harder than that.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:36 PM   #7
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If you let the smacktards off this board get to you, then they win. Do like I do and laugh at all the little mongoloid motherfuckers. These people are nothing to get worked up over. Broke teenage boys living out some porn fantasy. They lost from the start.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:36 PM   #8
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Is now a good time for me to come out of the closet Dawgy?
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:36 PM   #9
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The gay issue is kind of tough. On one hand many gays are nice decent people. On the other hand they like mens cocks in their asshole.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:37 PM   #10
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if you're truly gone dawgy.... godspeed and be well.

i would like to talk to you!!!!

my icq number is eight four eight six one six.

as to the homophobia... that is one the one thing that really surprised me when i came on the board. I was surprised that 'straight' pornographers would be so distressed. And the fact that it has only gotten worse since i've been around.

I thought people would realize that business is business but it hasn't been that way....

i guess that for some guys where other guys stick their dick is of immense importance to them. why, i have no idea.

people that actually talk to me realize i'm a pretty nice guy and that's all i really care about.... i can do business with them? i mean why would i do business with someone who dislikes me?

and as to the people that have me on ignore... that's their loss.

so 'hahahaha' is a forbidden word? That's funny cuz even when i got divorced... that was one word i never ever used...

i wonder if i'd be banned if i started calling the homophobes hahahahas.

i think i'm gonna try that... and if i do get banned then we certainly know that the board's owners indulge in and encourage a double standard.


edit comment: now that is funny/sad. the word c*nt is replaced by the word hahahaha.

i wonder how long i'd last if i started calling people lazy ******s. we shall have to test this.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:38 PM   #11
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The gay issue is kind of tough. On one hand many gays are nice decent people. On the other hand they like mens cocks in their asshole.
who cares , they are just like anyone else , just diff sex preference , nothing wrong with that.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:39 PM   #12
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Listen to Labret !

Don't go ! Put them on ignore !

I have certain individuals that attack me all the time. It is really their problem..
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:39 PM   #13
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Too many brainwashed right wingers on this board.

They're sometimes fun to laugh at though, you don't have to leave.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:40 PM   #14
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I bet AMP said all those mean things. He is mean when he been hitting the St Ide 40s.

You know what this thread needs now? Gay porn. Back in a sec.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:41 PM   #15
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Labret's right Dawgy, first rule of posting is not to take anything personally.

Second one of course is remember that once you post it, it's there.

And some of the posts that have been made regarding gays sit there like an ode to the complete and total stupidity of some people that frequent this board.

So I'll see you on Saturday as planned, barring any craziness with the move.
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Thats better

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Old 12-02-2002, 11:42 PM   #17
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who cares , they are just like anyone else , just diff sex preference , nothing wrong with that.


I agree.
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damn, thats bullshit. some of the nicest guys just happen to be gay. less ignorant macho alpha males who wouldn't eat a piece of toast if someone told them it was gay.

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Lets be frank, the only people that will ever accept gays are the left wing PC crowd. Thats not to be mean, thats just how it will always be.

Its kind of hard to make the idea of men screwing mainstream.
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Lets be frank, the only people that will ever accept gays are the left wing PC crowd. Thats not to be mean, thats just how it will always be.

Its kind of hard to make the idea of men screwing mainstream.
You don't get out much do you?
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:45 PM   #21
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I, too, hope you don't leave.

Although I am new here, I find the homophobic attitudes around this board very distasteful. As a bisexual woman with many gay and bi friends, I am highly aware of the double standards which so many ignorant men apply to female bisexuals and homosexuals versus male bisexuals and homosexuals. It annoys me greatly. I would have expected a higher level of knowledge about sexuality from a group of adult webmasters.

But I hope you stick it out because if all the gay webmasters leave, I cannot see things possibly getting better. It's not fair that you have to fight for decent treatment, but such is the sad state of our culture. At least know that I, for one, support you for whatever the words of a newbie here are worth.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:46 PM   #22
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i've got a gay sig and i made it to the "who's the biggest girly-girl on gfy" thread, and i've never really done anything girly. i guess some people are just big homophobes

some people on this board just have their heads stuck way up their asses.
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what labret said.. plus.. that way they can keep on fantasizing about that homo island they seem strangly drawn to mentioning.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:46 PM   #24
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Well i dawgy ,
dont let this shit get to you man


I am not gay and i have people say shit to me here and there
why for i shoot mostly gay and trany content !!!!!!!! why people ask well one thereis a killer markit for it and two some much easyer to work with then a female

these jackass that say shit and are being this way i am sure are not true webmasters , and like one said most will not have the BALLS to say this shit to your face ,

i sell to alot of gay men and webmasters that own gay sites that are not gay ether they are all and have been first class with me

i cannt say the same for alot of the ones that have teen female sites


but bro take all that shit they say and do and blow it away , it shows more of who a real jack asss it here and not here

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Old 12-02-2002, 11:52 PM   #26
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I remember a while back when someone called one of the female posters a c*nt. That person was banned and the word censored, because this is derrogatory to women and fellow webmasters.
I take credit for that

what ever happend to the dawgy/lane issue? or maybe it was dawgy/pete.. i forget.. but doesnt this fag owe someone some loot? excuse the punn
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Lets be frank, the only people that will ever accept gays are the left wing PC crowd. Thats not to be mean, thats just how it will always be.

Its kind of hard to make the idea of men screwing mainstream.
I don't know about that, society will evolve, it already has.
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Old 12-02-2002, 11:54 PM   #28
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Lets be frank, the only people that will ever accept gays are the left wing PC crowd. Thats not to be mean, thats just how it will always be.

Its kind of hard to make the idea of men screwing mainstream.
not left wing PC types.. more being mature enough to realise that it doesn't change anything at all about how they interact on a board or conduct business and that anal sex with a man isn't any fucking different than the anal with a woman that half of the homophobes want to do anyway. Also that it's no more or less repugnant than any one of a number of things people get up to in their own time.. i'd rather take a dildo in the ass than listen to 80% of mainstream music or watch "titanic".

im sure there are right wing libertarians who don't giva a fuck about gays.
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Labret...if ya don't stop posting that pic..I'm gonna hurl.
I damn near pit my coffee all over my keyboard..lol

Myself..I am NOT gay...but I mainly choose to run that market.
Converts way better..less competition and fucking good money.

I also run Alt Masters for The Pond..so I know the potiental of gay markets.

Ignore then ignorant fucks...
They are pissed cuz they have NO clue how to tap into the gay market and make REAL money.
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Lets be frank, the only people that will ever accept gays are the left wing PC crowd. Thats not to be mean, thats just how it will always be.

Its kind of hard to make the idea of men screwing mainstream.
That's not quite true. I'm far from a left wing, liberal, everything should be PC nutcase, but I don't really care where Dawgy sticks his dick anymore than I care where all the rightwing homophobics are sticking their's.
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Damn, what a bunch of assholes. It just stuns me that there are still people out there with these horrific attitudes towards gay people. Even more so, I find it appalling that such people go out of their way to be assholes.

I'll always consider you a friend Dale! I'd gladly cancel all of them out of SinTalk and SinHost if any were clients that I could pick out. What a bunch of fucking assholes! Besides, aren't I just the gayest straight man you've ever met? <lol>

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Yeah, and for the record it's NOT merely a right wing thing, I agree with FatPAD on that one.

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Question for those that fully support sexual freedom.

Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

Are you prejudiced against them?

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personaly i dont care if you're a fag, jew, ******, honky, cracker, whatever.... i hate everyone on an equal basis

but I wouldnt worry about someone beating your ass at a convention... Its been shown many times over thru the years that these boards are full of keyboard warriors and nothing else. How many times have you heard "oh yeah? well i'll kick your ass in vegas!" and then count how many times you've heard about someone getting thier ass kicked by another webmaster at some convention. It doesnt happen and probably never will.
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Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

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Do animals and dead people consent?
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Question for those that fully support sexual freedom.

Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

Are you prejudiced against them?
If it's not my pet or my dead relative i really could care less.
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Over the last few months i've noticed an increase in anti-gay posters and postings on this board. Being gay, i've learned to just ignore ignorant people who talk without knowing what the hell they're talking about. Ignoring homophobes is just part of it all, and I accept that. But there is a huge difference between a homophobic person, and someone who intentionally verbally assaults another person.

I remember a while back when someone called one of the female posters a c*nt. That person was banned and the word censored, because this is derrogatory to women and fellow webmasters.

However, we gay webmasters are routinely called fags, faggots, fairies, fudge packers, etc and no one seems to care. We are constantly being attacked on a personal level, much like the aforementioned female colleague, yet nothing is done about it. I'm not asking for anything special here, just to be treated the same as anyone else.

We are told we're not normal. We're compared to dog-fuckers. We are made to feel less than human and are just treated like shit in general. Again, all very personal attacks, much like the person who attacked someone's kid a while back too. But since we're just "fags", it doesn't matter apparently.

Stupid things get this board into huge discussions about who is "right" and who is "wrong"... things like signatures. Those of you who I'm speaking of, believe its perfectly ok for you to put straight sex pics in your sigs and posts, but horribly wrong for us to post gay pics. If there is anything I can't stand, its an illogical hypocrite. But then again, hypocracy itself is illogical.

The whole attitude in general bothers me. If you can't stand to see me post on this board, what's going to happen when you see me at a convention? If I don't know who you are, and hand you a card, are you going to punch me? Are you going to call me a faggot to my face and try to start some shit? GFY is hostile, and that's part of the appeal, but you create a very hostile environment off the board because now I've got a list of people I have to avoid anytime I go anywhere on business, for fear of getting the shit beat out of me.

You think I'm being lame and paranoid? I've had my life threatened at least a dozen times on and off this board simply because I'm gay. Read through the posts, you'll see things like "they should just be lined up against the nearest wall and terminated" repeated over and over.

Oh, yeah, speaking of off the board.... Would those of you who ICQ me now and then telling me what a faggot I am and how I should be "put to death like the jews" and "shipped off to an island of faggots" please start using your real ICQ so I can figure out who you are? Especially whoever it was that messaged me today and told me that you "can't wait to see you in January so I can teach you how to be a real man you fucking freak of nature faggot." I'd really like to make sure I don't ever bump into you.

So, anyway... I could go on and on, there are tons of posts for me to reference to prove my point that this board does not care if someone personally attacks a gay guy, but goes crazy if anyone personally attacks a female webmaster or their kids, or anyone else for that matter. I've done my venting and I hope I've made my point.

My sexuality has nothing to do with business, yet anytime I post here I'm personally attacked. I'm even attacked when I don't post here and people wonder where I am. I'm sure this post will draw even more attacks and bullshit. But whatever.... I'm gone.
Personally, gay people make me uncomfortable, but gay dudes (and of course lesbians) and very welcome at GFY and seem to be smarter than the baseline straight person. I have closed more than one gay hate thread, and will do so if I see more. Unfortunantly, I don't see them all.

If a word is particularly offensive to gays, I will strike it. But that's one word, like I did for c-u-n-t for my lady friends, not eight words, etc.

I have no problem with gays. Hell, our office is in Northen California and I'm the only straight guy working at Adult.com.

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Old 12-03-2002, 12:09 AM   #41
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Question for those that fully support sexual freedom.

Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

Are you prejudiced against them?
ur a moron
that is the dumbest question ever

exactlhy wut labret says
how can u even compare
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:12 AM   #42
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Question for those that fully support sexual freedom.

Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

Are you prejudiced against them?
not that those have got anything to do with homosexuality more than a blowjob or anal sex with a chick has, but i also really don't care about them either.. as long as the animal isn't being hurt... like a dog fucking a woman - it's sick.. but as sick as it is i equally don't give a fuck.. rimming and M2A on chicks repulses me but what the fuck do i care if someone wants to lick a chicks ass? I don't have a problem with anything as long as no-one or nothing is being hurt. I'd be pissed if my GF died and someone fucked the body, but if someone's wife died and he fucked her one last time? so - the - fuck - what?
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"Do animals and dead people consent? "

No, but thats not what I asked. I like to bring up beastiality and necrophila to make sexual freedom people uncomfortable. To kinda get them to show prejudice and contradict themself.


" I am a fascist and I dont care where he sticks his penis. "


Same here. I have no problem what someone does in their own home. I just dont like how the left wing media has an agenda to make this type of behavior normal, when its not.
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:21 AM   #44
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Dawgy,

I'm still straight but if it makes you feel better you can oogle me at work.

There are meager minded individuals that can't see past their way of thinking, nor their own lifestyle. This is sad but true, a fact of life. GFY won't be the same without you.

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Who gives a fuck what two people do with eachother, as long as they both want it?

If you cant stand looking at a gay picture, you should seriously not be in this industry at all. I still get a little uncomfortable when seeing a gay video/hardcore picture, but fuck it, its money.
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:27 AM   #46
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I have no problem what someone does in their own home. I just dont like how the left wing media has an agenda to make this type of behavior normal, when its not.
The only reason it isn't normal is because - You don't do it! Just because it isn't your "style" doesn't mean you can judge someone else accordingly.
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"Do animals and dead people consent? "

No, but thats not what I asked. I like to bring up beastiality and necrophila to make sexual freedom people uncomfortable. To kinda get them to show prejudice and contradict themself.
how does bringing up something unrelated have the ability to contradict? for contradiction to occur the two statements or ideals must be differing on the same grounds.
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:30 AM   #48
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Question for those that fully support sexual freedom.

Do you have a problem with people that like beastiality and necrophilia ?

Are you prejudiced against them?
My view on all issues of "alternative sexualities" comes down to consent. Did both living beings (or however many beings there are involved in the sex) consent to it? Is anybody being harmed?

What this boils down to, as far as beastie and necro: did the goddamn dog/horse/whatever say "Hey, dude, I wanna fuck that skanky ho over there, lemme at her"? If he didn't -- and if he did, take the damn talking dog on Letterman and forget porno -- then you shouldn't be involving him. Beastie porn offends me because a living creature was made to do something that it most likely would not have done on its own.

As far as necro -- I don't want to see it, but I don't give a shit if someone wants to fuck a moldy corpse. I don't understand the attraction to it, granted, but as far as my personal philosophy goes, once you're dead, the spirit is no longer part of the flesh, and the flesh that's left is just leftovers. Fuck away, but...um, bathe in Lysol afterward. Because -- in my opinion, anyway -- ewww.

Consent is the line that you don't cross, as far as I'm concerned. As long as all parties were willing and able to consent, have a ball. take pictures, do it on the evening news, for all I care.

Anyway -- Dawgy, I hope you don't leave because of these assholes. Labret and everyone else who said you should put them on ignore are rught -- and ignoring them will just piss them off. They're little homophobic boys crying for attention. They're just like toddlers -- even negative attention is better than no attention at all. Ignore them and they get frustrated. Leave, and they got what they wanted -- your attention, even if it was just you saying "You win, I'm leaving" -- and then they'll turn their jokes and insults on the next gay webmaster to come along. They won't grow up, we can't make them, and it's no use trying to talk to them about it.

I hope you don't leave, man.
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My view on all issues of "alternative sexualities" comes down to consent. Did both living beings (or however many beings there are involved in the sex) consent to it? Is anybody being harmed?

What this boils down to, as far as beastie and necro: did the goddamn dog/horse/whatever say "Hey, dude, I wanna fuck that skanky ho over there, lemme at her"? If he didn't -- and if he did, take the damn talking dog on Letterman and forget porno -- then you shouldn't be involving him. Beastie porn offends me because a living creature was made to do something that it most likely would not have done on its own.

As far as necro -- I don't want to see it, but I don't give a shit if someone wants to fuck a moldy corpse. I don't understand the attraction to it, granted, but as far as my personal philosophy goes, once you're dead, the spirit is no longer part of the flesh, and the flesh that's left is just leftovers. Fuck away, but...um, bathe in Lysol afterward. Because -- in my opinion, anyway -- ewww.

Consent is the line that you don't cross, as far as I'm concerned. As long as all parties were willing and able to consent, have a ball. take pictures, do it on the evening news, for all I care.

Anyway -- Dawgy, I hope you don't leave because of these assholes. Labret and everyone else who said you should put them on ignore are rught -- and ignoring them will just piss them off. They're little homophobic boys crying for attention. They're just like toddlers -- even negative attention is better than no attention at all. Ignore them and they get frustrated. Leave, and they got what they wanted -- your attention, even if it was just you saying "You win, I'm leaving" -- and then they'll turn their jokes and insults on the next gay webmaster to come along. They won't grow up, we can't make them, and it's no use trying to talk to them about it.

I hope you don't leave, man.
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Kinda wierd

I was just reading the post about halle barry and all the racist comments that were said then I though about how childing and unprofessional GFY is becoming I know lensman didnt create this board to be a place for a bunch of immature probably not even in the biz people to hang out. I know this cause I helped build this board and we thought a lot about what to do with it before we launched it.


I want to do business with professionals not idiots that create 10 different characters so that they can fuck with anyone they have differences with... Not people that cant take there dislikes and keep them to themselves.

I have been here a long time I am the first registered user in fact and I must say its sad to see what this board is becoming cause you dont see it on the other boards so I know it not the industry as a whole.


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