Can anyone explain me NEON DOLLARS refunds? - GoFuckYourself.com

Ramp · 07-26-2009, 02:04 AM

I have never seen any program doing so many refunds.
Honestly it's the first time I see refunds being done...

Maybe it's their tactic to take the reccuring members and don't pay us? LOL

Because I see same person doing more than one purchase and all his money being "refunded"....

Why other cam sites don't do that? Why other porn sites don't do that?

Why neon dollars need to do that?

Ramp · 07-26-2009, 03:25 AM

here's a bump

dav3 · 07-26-2009, 04:48 AM

At one point, I had a bunch of chargebacks from them also. Never had anything like this from any other program, so instantly I felt something was up with it.

Ramp · 07-26-2009, 05:23 AM

You have charge backs in there
While I have refunds... look

dav3 · 07-26-2009, 05:44 AM

When I asked about the chargebacks, I was told "we dont know, bank pulled it back with stolen cc susp.". OK fine, but why weren't all 19 sales from this user charged back, instead of only 6, if it was a stolen card? And why was 1 listed as credit and the rest chargeback, if it was a stolen card?

Ramp · 07-26-2009, 05:52 AM

This is definitely something fishy...

xenigo · 07-26-2009, 05:55 AM

A new spin on an old shave.

HomerSimpson · 07-26-2009, 07:23 AM

chargebacks really suck!

dav3 · 07-26-2009, 11:18 PM

bump for more insight

born2blog · 07-26-2009, 11:22 PM

I'm glad I dropped all of their links and promo stuff

lagcam · 07-26-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3

When I asked about the chargebacks, I was told "we dont know, bank pulled it back with stolen cc susp.". OK fine, but why weren't all 19 sales from this user charged back, instead of only 6, if it was a stolen card? And why was 1 listed as credit and the rest chargeback, if it was a stolen card?

Sadly, chargebacks can hit at any time up to 6 months after the transaction, (and in extremely rare cases evn longer) and it is not unusual for them to hit you in little batches although sometimes you get "lucky" and some from same customer are not reversed.

I am guessing, (because we have no affiliation or association with that site) that the refunds are transactions that they themselves or their processors have flagged as suspect, AFTER they were approved, and they have refunded them prior to them being charged back in an attempt to minimise chargebacks (that sites are penalised for more).

Whatever the case, I am sorry for your loss. Chargebacks are theft, pure and simple.

Elixir · 07-27-2009, 01:00 AM

Damn that suck!!! GOod luck man!

Ramp · 07-27-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam

Sadly, chargebacks can hit at any time up to 6 months after the transaction, (and in extremely rare cases evn longer) and it is not unusual for them to hit you in little batches although sometimes you get "lucky" and some from same customer are not reversed.

I am guessing, (because we have no affiliation or association with that site) that the refunds are transactions that they themselves or their processors have flagged as suspect, AFTER they were approved, and they have refunded them prior to them being charged back in an attempt to minimise chargebacks (that sites are penalised for more).

Whatever the case, I am sorry for your loss. Chargebacks are theft, pure and simple.

This is exactly what they said.

But what a fuck, why I haven't ever seen any other program doing that? Only they?

dav3 · 10-20-2009, 03:43 PM

so, how are everyone's refunds and chargebacks doing at neon cams? i stopped putting focus on them and havent made any new sales, but i did notice some WM referrals are still getting hit with refunds/chargebacks.

fatfoo · 10-20-2009, 04:26 PM

Could be a shave of some kind. Who knows.

l0lf4c3 · 10-20-2009, 04:30 PM

ask commercegate...

Agent 488 · 10-20-2009, 04:30 PM

fuck it. move on. tons of cam programs out there.

07-26-2009, 02:04 AM	#1
Ramp Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,464	Can anyone explain me NEON DOLLARS refunds? I have never seen any program doing so many refunds. Honestly it's the first time I see refunds being done... Maybe it's their tactic to take the reccuring members and don't pay us? LOL Because I see same person doing more than one purchase and all his money being "refunded".... Why other cam sites don't do that? Why other porn sites don't do that? Why neon dollars need to do that?

07-26-2009, 04:48 AM	#3
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	At one point, I had a bunch of chargebacks from them also. Never had anything like this from any other program, so instantly I felt something was up with it. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

07-26-2009, 05:44 AM	#5
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	When I asked about the chargebacks, I was told "we dont know, bank pulled it back with stolen cc susp.". OK fine, but why weren't all 19 sales from this user charged back, instead of only 6, if it was a stolen card? And why was 1 listed as credit and the rest chargeback, if it was a stolen card? __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

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07-26-2009, 05:52 AM	#6
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10-20-2009, 03:43 PM	#14
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	so, how are everyone's refunds and chargebacks doing at neon cams? i stopped putting focus on them and havent made any new sales, but i did notice some WM referrals are still getting hit with refunds/chargebacks. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

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