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Old 07-21-2009, 04:04 PM   #1
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Question to all Affiliates:Is a TWITTER link on a tour considered a traffic leak?

Would you guys and gals promote a paysite with a twitter link on the tour without any compensation? Do you consider this a traffic leak?

Would love to hear your thoughts on this!
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:40 PM   #2
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yes it is a traffic leak
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:41 PM   #3
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yep, it's a leak
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:41 PM   #4
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Yes it's a leak... show it to type-ins only.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:19 PM   #5
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it's a leak for sure
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:22 PM   #6
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for sure
and it is done already by a few
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:22 PM   #7
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Why would you want it there? The person is already interested and on the tour so why would you want them to sign up to hear about her going to to gym and shit?
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:33 PM   #8
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of course its a leak. you want them to join the site and spend money. anything that takes away from that is a leak.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:37 PM   #9
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It's unanimous. It's a leak. Anything that takes the surfer off site or to a non-credited portion of the site is.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:38 PM   #10
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Why would you want it there? The person is already interested and on the tour so why would you want them to sign up to hear about her going to to gym and shit?
Because... it shows the surfer the site is active, making it appear updates are real, support will answer, someone you could contact, a way to become a fan, a way to follow whats going on with the website, old sites, and new sites.

For the site owner it's a way way to build a relationship/trust so later (or now) the person could be sold whatever you like.... because they trust you.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:44 PM   #11
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why not stick the twitter link in the members area?

or post it only to direct type-ins?
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:56 PM   #12
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Instead of linking, just mention it in a small graphic and maybe show a screen shot of recent twitter updates. It gives the impression of ongoing updates and interaction without being an actual leak.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:57 PM   #13
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why not stick the twitter link in the members area?

or post it only to direct type-ins?
yup exactly! don't have the girl be too friendly to the surfers on the outside or they will never join the site. It's like surfer boards are a great place for girls to get new members but when you are spending a hour a day replying to a single non members 20 pms a day then you are wasting time.

Back on topic, I'm all for telling them in the tour that if they join they will get their twitter, facebook, email and what not just keep that info off the tours
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:59 PM   #14
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:38 PM   #15
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I would have to think twice about promoting any program who's owner wasn't sure what a traffic leak was.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:41 PM   #16
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Yes it's a leak... show it to type-ins only.
I'll throw a vote for this one
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:42 PM   #17
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I would have to think twice about promoting any program who's owner wasn't sure what a traffic leak was.
Ditosta is good people... his focus is in the right place and he wants to do what's best for his affiliates... I've never had any issues with RhinoPays myself and have received all my payouts on time.
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:45 AM   #18
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Yup


would keep me from signing up for the program.
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:56 AM   #19
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sounds like a leakage ...
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:02 AM   #21
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Ditosta is good people... his focus is in the right place and he wants to do what's best for his affiliates... I've never had any issues with RhinoPays myself and have received all my payouts on time.
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Old 07-22-2009, 06:10 AM   #22
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I would have to think twice about promoting any program who's owner wasn't sure what a traffic leak was.
I asked a 2 part question, I am aware that it is a leak but what I really want to know is if webmasters will still promote the site. I've seen alot of new sites with twitter links and I have not heard any backlash as of yet.
I remember when the webmaster referral link on tours was a huge deal but no one has mentioned TWITTER as of yet maybe because it has not become the standard yet.

My knowledge and integrity should not be questioned because I am trying to find out what affiliates agree or disagree with. If you read the OP you will notice that I did not give my opinion on whether or not it's a leak or not.

Alot of great point in this thread thanks for all of the feedback.
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:21 PM   #23
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:47 PM   #24
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:53 PM   #25
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It's a huge leak.

But add it to the memberares and the exit console/popup. That way surfers that would leave your site, might follow the site on Twitter and return to the site later.

Since a lot of programs track both Cookie and IP, there is a chance the webmaster that initially send the surfer to the site, get the credit for the sale


And if they sign up, there is a bigger chance they stay a member longer, if you keep reminding them of updates through Twitter.


I dont personally use twitter, but businesses should use it, since its a more powerfull tool than email-newsletters could ever become

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:09 PM   #26
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:11 PM   #27
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Leak.

Think about the process... the guy is on the site, getting turned on, maybe thinking of joining, then he sees the twitter link, he clicks out of your site, you just lost him.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:13 PM   #28
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what about link to modelling opportunities?
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:31 PM   #29
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have requested the editors remove our twitter link from the blog part of the tour (which just went live today). There's nothing more I hate than a traffic leak.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:02 PM   #30
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what about link to modelling opportunities?
Great question! We see alot of that and I must admit we have it also on our sites but We are recruiting models so that we can keep shooting more great content which benefits the webmaster in the long run.

I think that this is acceptable
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:05 PM   #31
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Great question! We see alot of that and I must admit we have it also on our sites but We are recruiting models so that we can keep shooting more great content which benefits the webmaster in the long run.

I think that this is acceptable
i never understood why programs don't pay a referal fee for that
you send traffic that get you girl that makes you 50k is 50 bucks to much to pay out.
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Any off site link that doesn't pay the affiliate is a leak.

I find it hard to believe you even needed to ask.
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i never understood why programs don't pay a referal fee for that
you send traffic that get you girl that makes you 50k is 50 bucks to much to pay out.
makes sense yeah
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Any off site link that doesn't pay the affiliate is a leak.

I find it hard to believe you even needed to ask.
Again, I want to know if Affiliates will still promote a site with a twitter link on the tour! for no compensation! I stated this above in case you did not read the complete thread.

Webmaster have been sending traffic to tons of sponsors for years when they were not being credited for webmaster referrals only in 2007 did people start to complain and SOME sponsors including ourselves did something about it and made sure credit was given.

So being that twitter is the new thing, are webmasters ready to promote sites with a link or not! It might only hit webmasters a year from now when they start complaining about it.

I am aware that it's a LEAK!!!
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Leak.

Think about the process... the guy is on the site, getting turned on, maybe thinking of joining, then he sees the twitter link, he clicks out of your site, you just lost him.
Or twitter link could be used to promote more features or make the user aware of special things going on in the members area at that moment that the user HAVE TO SEE.

It can be good or bad, depends on the person making it.

Just like an E-mail collection box on a main page can be good or bad, depends purely on the integrity of the program owner so it all depends on the trust level between the affiliates and the affiliate program owner..

Considering many affiliates hardly trust their sponsors with their affiliate check it may be a bad idea.

It's like asking if rain is good or bad
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