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  • xxxjay
    Tube groupie.
    • Aug 2002
    • 13482

    #421
    Originally posted by Porno Dan
    We put out DVDs becasue it's the only way we can get broadcast and foreign rights deals is if you make DVDs; the buyers won't look at scenes off the net.
    Good point.
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    • Robbie
      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
      • Aug 2002
      • 20960

      #422
      Originally posted by Porno Dan
      We put out DVDs becasue it's the only way we can get broadcast and foreign rights deals is if you make DVDs; the buyers won't look at scenes off the net.
      You're definitely the exception that makes the rule.
      When you explained that to me a few months ago I was pretty impressed. You found a way to make a buck with DVD sales that I'm not sure the old school studios have figured out.
      -Robbie
      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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      • Robbie
        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
        • Aug 2002
        • 20960

        #423
        Originally posted by Porno Dan
        We put out DVDs becasue it's the only way we can get broadcast and foreign rights deals is if you make DVDs; the buyers won't look at scenes off the net.
        I just thought about that for a few minutes...
        You know, the buyers are making a pretty big mistake in that regard too.

        They don't realize that they are missing some of the best porn being produced today...and some of the most popular. The internet scenes are seen by millions. And the girls in them have huge fan bases that totally eclipse DVD stuff (though that is changing as more and more DVD's feature the girls from the net for that very reason)

        It kinda reminds me of the being in a magazine illusion in girls' heads. Seems like a lot of porn girls all have this fantasy notion that if they get on the cover of an adult men's mag that they are THEN big stars. I try to tell them that yeah...25 years ago that might have been true. But today more people will see them on their website in one day than there would even be issues of that magazine printed for the month.

        But yet that perception remains.

        Same thing with DVD's. When I put CM on Streamate to do paid camshows...Shawn asked me what DVD's Claudia-Marie has appeared on. I told him the DVD's that she has not only appeared on but was on the cover of including a couple of Naughty America ones a couple of I Digital ones and one that we released with IVD ourselves.

        After I showed those to him he was like: Okay cool! Now we can put her in the "pornstar" section! lol

        And that was after he had already asked me to have her come on board to Streamate BECAUSE of her popularity.

        So that perception that being on DVD somehow makes it more "legit" definitely still hovers over the whole business, even though the DVD brick and mortar business is pretty much dead while the internet exposure is getting bigger and bigger.
        Last edited by Robbie; 09-07-2009, 03:11 PM.
        -Robbie
        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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        • Russian
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 430

          #424
          Originally posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle
          One day, these people may just mess with someone crazy enough not to give a fuck about the consequences.
          That's my boy.
          C lick my sig

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          • Nautilus
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2002
            • 1631

            #425
            Originally posted by Robbie
            It kinda reminds me of the being in a magazine illusion in girls' heads. Seems like a lot of porn girls all have this fantasy notion that if they get on the cover of an adult men's mag that they are THEN big stars.
            Well there's a ground for this illusion - being a cover girl of the mag gives you about one month worth of attention span, which is a great deal of "branding", so to say.

            While on the web user attention span is close to zero. 99,9999% of surfers forget about the girl the next SECOND after they clicked the other video. Yes a girl can get one million views to her video in one day on the web, but so do other millions of the web girls, and it means nothing in terms of branding/recognition.
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            • brassmonkey
              Pay It Forward
              • Sep 2005
              • 77396

              #426
              Originally posted by xxxjay
              The occash?...they are still running just fine.
              there was like 40 now its like 10
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              • Robbie
                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                • Aug 2002
                • 20960

                #427
                Originally posted by Nautilus
                Well there's a ground for this illusion - being a cover girl of the mag gives you about one month worth of attention span, which is a great deal of "branding", so to say.

                While on the web user attention span is close to zero. 99,9999% of surfers forget about the girl the next SECOND after they clicked the other video. Yes a girl can get one million views to her video in one day on the web, but so do other millions of the web girls, and it means nothing in terms of branding/recognition.
                I'm not so sure about that.

                Yeah, if you take a sorta generic looking pretty girl and do one scene with her on a website...she'll be forgotten before you even stop looking at her. lol

                But girls who have developed fan bases on the internet are HUGE.

                I can only go by what I see with my own two eyes. And everywhere we have been, from New York City to Atlanta to Los Angeles to Las Vegas...I can guarantee you that I could walk in to most any place in public (shopping mall, restaurant, etc.) with Claudia-Marie and whoever is on the latest cover of a porn mag...and people will recognize and know Claudia-Marie and unless the cover girl is Pam Anderson or some other legit celeb, they will just be seen as some really pretty girl.
                -Robbie
                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                • RadicalSights
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1595

                  #428
                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                  Ask me how I know.
                  how you know

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                  • Nautilus
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 1631

                    #429
                    Originally posted by Robbie
                    But girls who have developed fan bases on the internet are HUGE.
                    Those who developed - yes. But internet lacks the tools of branding/promotion like the cover page of the mag was in it's hay day, which was almost free, required almost no work and was HUGE.

                    Cover pages back in the day provided huge exposure to just a random girl who maybe sucked the right dick but hardly more than that - and this exposure usually went viral, she got people talking about her, comments in the news and other magazines etc etc.

                    What internet has to offer that is similar to this kind of exposure from just one photo session? I just do not see it. Real hardworking girls who have the right promoters who will also work their asses out to get girl's name out there, they can get huge. But mag's cover page was the opportunity for about ANY good looking girl, no matter how lazy.
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                    • RSD
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 425

                      #430
                      Watch out for www.thepornbay.org

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960

                        #431
                        Originally posted by Nautilus
                        Those who developed - yes. But internet lacks the tools of branding/promotion like the cover page of the mag was in it's hay day, which was almost free, required almost no work and was HUGE.

                        Cover pages back in the day provided huge exposure to just a random girl who maybe sucked the right dick but hardly more than that - and this exposure usually went viral, she got people talking about her, comments in the news and other magazines etc etc.

                        What internet has to offer that is similar to this kind of exposure from just one photo session? I just do not see it. Real hardworking girls who have the right promoters who will also work their asses out to get girl's name out there, they can get huge. But mag's cover page was the opportunity for about ANY good looking girl, no matter how lazy.
                        I agree 100%. Back in the day the magazine cover was the bomb. Or even just a spot in the magazine was money. One of my ex-wives was in Hustler back in 1998 and it was a big boost for us economically.

                        But in 2009 that is no longer the case. Magazines just don't sell anymore.
                        -Robbie
                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                        • DateDoc
                          Outside looking in.
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 14243

                          #432
                          Wow, the site is about to break 1k on alexa.

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                          • xxxjay
                            Tube groupie.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #433
                            if i buy some trafficjunky ads...will you stop..please!!!
                            http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...44fa205498c6a3
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                            • xxxjay
                              Tube groupie.
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13482

                              #434
                              god damn you guys are assholes - http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1656987760 - we just released this site yesterday...i hope you all die
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                              • Brujah
                                Beer Money Baron
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 22157

                                #435
                                stickyfingerz will save your sites, xxxjay.

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