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  • xxxjay
    Tube groupie.
    • Aug 2002
    • 13482

    #406
    Originally posted by World Expert Internet Service
    brazzers makes good videos
    And they steal the rest...

    How about this video? Front page of pornhub right now:
    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1173430082

    This is from our new site www.mystepdadmademe.com - which comes out next week. It's nice the brazzers guys to the liberty of releasing this for us.
    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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    • Robbie
      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
      • Aug 2002
      • 20960

      #407
      Originally posted by xxxjay
      And they steal the rest...

      How about this video? Front page of pornhub right now:
      http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...key=1173430082

      This is from our new site www.mystepdadmademe.com - which comes out next week. It's nice the brazzers guys to the liberty of releasing this for us.
      Uhhh...Jay how the hell can they already have one of your vids when the site isn't even open yet.

      Bro, I have been raising hell about the fact that nobody is bothering to protect their content, but you are taking content UN-protection to a whole new level when the pirates are stealing it before you even have it up!
      -Robbie
      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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      • Porno Dan
        Court Jester
        • May 2003
        • 6342

        #408
        Maybe the will make a deal and take over iPorn, they just wrote iPorn a check for $250,000 for bogus traffic.
        Last edited by Porno Dan; 09-04-2009, 08:21 PM.
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        • xxxjay
          Tube groupie.
          • Aug 2002
          • 13482

          #409
          Originally posted by Robbie
          Uhhh...Jay how the hell can they already have one of your vids when the site isn't even open yet.

          Bro, I have been raising hell about the fact that nobody is bothering to protect their content, but you are taking content UN-protection to a whole new level when the pirates are stealing it before you even have it up!
          If it can be downloaded it can be pirated. They burned the DVD to get that one.
          http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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          • Robbie
            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
            • Aug 2002
            • 20960

            #410
            Originally posted by xxxjay
            If it can be downloaded it can be pirated. They burned the DVD to get that one.
            Ah, DVD stuff that you are licensing. Got ya.
            Yep, you're screwed with that kind of stuff right out of the gate.
            -Robbie
            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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            • xxxjay
              Tube groupie.
              • Aug 2002
              • 13482

              #411
              Originally posted by Robbie
              Ah, DVD stuff that you are licensing. Got ya.
              Yep, you're screwed with that kind of stuff right out of the gate.
              We don't have a garden variety licensing deal with Evasive Angles. We have exclusive internet rights. Some of the sites come out at the same time as the DVDs, some before, some after.
              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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              • SamuraiBarbi
                Registered User
                • Aug 2009
                • 11

                #412
                Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                10. Do Not Receive A Financial Benefit Directly Attributable To Infringing Activity Within The Company's Control

                If an online service provider has the right and ability to control infringing activity, it is eligible for the safe harbor if it does not receive a financial benefit directly attributable to such infringing activity. The "direct financial benefit" issue is complex and necessarily dependent on applicable facts and circumstances. Although this issue still remains to be clarified by the courts, Viacom has made arguments regarding direct financial benefit in its lawsuit against YouTube. To the extent that the Viacom v. YouTube case results in a decision, this issue would be one of the more interesting DMCA legal questions the case addresses.

                --

                whether a legit community site that allows user uploads or an illegal tube site, both generate revenue from the advertisement around the content.

                some illegal tube sites offer a "premium" version that gives access to longer videos, better quality, etc.. this would certainly violate DMCA safe harbour provisions for a paid-membership model using stolen content (oh the irony of paysites who used usenet content inside members areas and now crying foul about DMCA)

                ---

                takedowns have to occur in a "reasonable period of time"... 24-72 hours.

                content producers could coordinate their DMCA notices to do a "DMCA bombing" at the same time.

                you would have to have a shared IP attorney ready to then file a lawsuit if the DMCA process wasn't followed. Having a large amount of complaints that were disproportionate to the "legal" content on a tube site, could show that the site owners do know about infringing material.


                Fight the YMCA!

                This sounds like such an epic idea. If you saw multiple videos of yours were being illegally hosted on a tube site and you got together with several dozen others people that had multiple videos illegally hosted on the same site, you could file DMCA's in mass in such quantities that the tube sites wouldn't be able to address them all in the DMCA specified amount of time. Just sit on your requests for removal until you have several hundred / thousand between you and several other site owners and then file in unison.

                That idea sounds like it will actually work.

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                • Robbie
                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20960

                  #413
                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                  We don't have a garden variety licensing deal with Evasive Angles. We have exclusive internet rights. Some of the sites come out at the same time as the DVDs, some before, some after.
                  I'm aware of your exclusive deal. I'm just saying that using an outsource company that is a DVD studio opens you up to anybody, anytime just buying the DVD at an adult bookstore, ripping it and uploading it. You have no protection against that.

                  Different than shooting your own stuff yourself and having 100% control over it was what I was saying.
                  -Robbie
                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                  • xxxjay
                    Tube groupie.
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13482

                    #414
                    Originally posted by Robbie
                    I'm aware of your exclusive deal. I'm just saying that using an outsource company that is a DVD studio opens you up to anybody, anytime just buying the DVD at an adult bookstore, ripping it and uploading it. You have no protection against that.

                    Different than shooting your own stuff yourself and having 100% control over it was what I was saying.
                    I see what you are saying.

                    It also seems like this industry is so fucked up, if you try to scape a few extra bones by putting you stuff out on DVD, you get punished for it.
                    http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                    • SleazyDream
                      I'm here for SPORT
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 41470

                      #415
                      sounds like a slam dunk for a small claims lawsuit...... what's the maximum you can sue for in small claims court in your district?
                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                      Now read without the word dog.

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960

                        #416
                        Originally posted by xxxjay
                        I see what you are saying.

                        It also seems like this industry is so fucked up, if you try to scape a few extra bones by putting you stuff out on DVD, you get punished for it.
                        Agreed, and with sales of DVD's so low (especially in comparison to 5 to 6 years ago) you are really better off not releasing it on DVD.

                        In 2008 I put out CM's "Claudia-Marie Big Titty Southern Milf" and distributed it with Frank (ivd) It made me about 35 grand for my cut.

                        Not worth the time or effort and now with piracy having grown to mammoth proportions...I don't even bother with DVD releases anymore.

                        I'm almost convinced that most people still doing DVD releases are doing them for their own egos and recognition from the L.A. scene (since all the awards are given out for DVD releases).

                        Funny, cause DVD releases are only seen by a handful of people....UNTIL they are released on the internet and then seen by millions.

                        The "awards" shows are really behind the times if you think about it. They should be handing out awards for scenes shot for the internet. That's where the fan base is.
                        -Robbie
                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                        • SleazyDream
                          I'm here for SPORT
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 41470

                          #417
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          Agreed, and with sales of DVD's so low (especially in comparison to 5 to 6 years ago) you are really better off not releasing it on DVD.

                          In 2008 I put out CM's "Claudia-Marie Big Titty Southern Milf" and distributed it with Frank (ivd) It made me about 35 grand for my cut.

                          Not worth the time or effort and now with piracy having grown to mammoth proportions...I don't even bother with DVD releases anymore.

                          I'm almost convinced that most people still doing DVD releases are doing them for their own egos and recognition from the L.A. scene (since all the awards are given out for DVD releases).

                          Funny, cause DVD releases are only seen by a handful of people....UNTIL they are released on the internet and then seen by millions.

                          The "awards" shows are really behind the times if you think about it. They should be handing out awards for scenes shot for the internet. That's where the fan base is.


                          me thinks you're fishing for an award


                          tehe
                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                          Now read without the word dog.

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                          • Robbie
                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20960

                            #418
                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                            me thinks you're fishing for an award


                            tehe
                            You're damn right! Don't I deserve one??? Damn it! Look at ME everybody! Look at ME!!!


                            -Robbie
                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                            • SleazyDream
                              I'm here for SPORT
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 41470

                              #419
                              Originally posted by Robbie
                              You're damn right! Don't I deserve one??? Damn it! Look at ME everybody! Look at ME!!!


                              sorry I was looking at claudia marie
                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                              Now read without the word dog.

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                              • Porno Dan
                                Court Jester
                                • May 2003
                                • 6342

                                #420
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Agreed, and with sales of DVD's so low (especially in comparison to 5 to 6 years ago) you are really better off not releasing it on DVD.

                                In 2008 I put out CM's "Claudia-Marie Big Titty Southern Milf" and distributed it with Frank (ivd) It made me about 35 grand for my cut.

                                Not worth the time or effort and now with piracy having grown to mammoth proportions...I don't even bother with DVD releases anymore.

                                I'm almost convinced that most people still doing DVD releases are doing them for their own egos and recognition from the L.A. scene (since all the awards are given out for DVD releases).

                                Funny, cause DVD releases are only seen by a handful of people....UNTIL they are released on the internet and then seen by millions.

                                The "awards" shows are really behind the times if you think about it. They should be handing out awards for scenes shot for the internet. That's where the fan base is.

                                We put out DVDs becasue it's the only way we can get broadcast and foreign rights deals is if you make DVDs; the buyers won't look at scenes off the net.
                                Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner

                                2021 XBIZ Europe Winner Best Director Site

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