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#106

07-22-2009, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by SomeCreep

This is an old argument. The bottom line is DMCA laws need to change to make site owners responsible for the stolen content on their site, no matter what, whether a user uploaded it or not. I doubt that will happen though. So although "illegal tubes" are unethical, they still have the law on their side and that's all they need to stay in business.

The DMCA already does that. Issue a complaint to the isp (usually the owner of the ip block), if the content is still online after several days, follow-up with the isp. If it remains online for more than a couple of weeks, contact your lawyer, and have them file suit against the ISP. However, if the user follows a counter-dmca notice, then they need to provide their address & contact information. At that point, the isp is declared irresponsible for the accessibility of the content, and you follow suit against the owner of the site. If the ISP doesn't get back to you after a couple of weeks, you have a case against the isp.

Remember, porn & mp3s aren't the only thing that the DMCA protects. If some dickhead felt like copy and pasting every word & page from a book onto a thread in this forum, that'd be a dmca violation too.

Doesn't stop there. Did you know that the people who operate the Eiffel tower hold a copyright that prohibits even amateur photographers from publishing photos taken of the eiffel tower at night while it's lights are on? Go read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_...pyright_claims

Those people could legally DMCA anyone in the united states for publishing a photo they took themselves.

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#107

07-22-2009, 02:27 AM

Sweet! I just saw my first animal porn and cum swapping... never really cared to buy that shit but here they have it for free!
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#108

07-22-2009, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by xxxjay

I won't post the links here because I don't want to link GFY and this shit, but seems like they are into some rape porn as well.

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http://www.passedoutpussy dot com/girls/passedoutpussy404.jpg
http://www.passedoutpussy dot com/girls/passedoutpussy559.jpg

visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this - brazzers.com, moviebox.com, sexinyourcity.com, and pornhub.com

when did it become ok to process RAPE sites?

This is not good at all

Sad to see this kind of shit...

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#109

07-22-2009, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by mOrrI

This is not good at all

Sad to see this kind of shit...

Speaking as someone who had a rape kink between the ages of 17 and 20, The chances that the video is depicting a legitimate rape is nearly impossible. Additionally, 5/6 of the girls I've dated during the past 2 years have all told me about their rape fantasies, and I role played that fantasy with 4 of them. Really, it's not a big deal. It's extremely common.

And the whole "visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this" statement is stupid too. Do you think visa and mastercard would be happy about their cards being used to buy a subscription to a site with a video showing 5 guys draining their load in the ass of a 19 year old thai girl who then pushes the combined load into a martini glass that the camera man pours into her mouth as she chokes herself? As long as the porn is legal, and they don't give a shit.

I've bought lube & sounds to shove down my urethra using my visa card. Nobody's called me to tell me they're revoking my membership yet.

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#110

07-22-2009, 03:03 AM

Originally posted by xxxjay

You know if you really wanted to fuck these guys you could also send reports to google about all of the paid links they are buying. You can track them easily:

http://www.google.com/search?q=link%...ient=firefox-a

You can report links by being logged in to google:
www.google.com/webmasters/

But then the same could be done about your own link trading. Unless you use nofollow which you obviously dont you are also breaking the guidelines, like everybody else on this forum. Reporting that shit to google is pathetic, its not only brazzers buying the links who could be damaged but regular webmasters selling them you are trying to fuck up...

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#111

07-22-2009, 03:33 AM

back with a bang! thanks for the scoop jay.

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#112

07-22-2009, 03:45 AM

Hot website!
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#113

07-22-2009, 03:45 AM

as the tube business model seem to work,
why doesnt anyone:
1. get a tube script
2. signup for brazzers paysites
3. download their updates every day and put it on your own tube

now, keep it only brazzers content to make it really sting.
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#114

07-22-2009, 03:53 AM

its a shame im not allowed in canada. i'd gladly go up there and sort things out.

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#115

07-22-2009, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by lopez

as the tube business model seem to work,
why doesnt anyone:
1. get a tube script
2. signup for brazzers paysites
3. download their updates every day and put it on your own tube

now, keep it only brazzers content to make it really sting.

Well their content is on rapidshare already one way or another.
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#116

07-22-2009, 04:21 AM

Sweet, you just saved me $28!
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#117

07-22-2009, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Joe, your content, which you have licensed and resold to other webmasters (including myself), is all over practically every large tube site:

KeezMovies (purportedly owned by, or in cahoots with Brazzers) - Added 7 months ago (37,000+ views - Miko Sinz in your bedroom sucking your dick):

http://www.keezmovies.com/432331

Pornhub - Page 1 under "Asian" (supposedly also owned by Brazzers):

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...9231b10c726488

Uploaded 1 Year Ago (480,000+ views)

Tube8 - Uploaded 7 months ago (336,000+ views):

http://www.tube8.com/asian/leandra-lee/80796/

RedTube - Over 1.7 million views:

http://www.redtube.com/20407

Sure wish you would do something about this (unless you condone it), since it is devaluing the thousands of dollars worth of content which I licensed from you.

It only took a few minutes for me to find these videos which have been online 6+ months and have been cumulatively viewed by millions for free.

I find it hard to believe that you are unaware...

I sure hope you are trying to contact someone from KeezMovies to remove your content, instead of selling/licensing them your content (since you already made back your investment on that product), because you know they will repost it to surfers for free (in hopes of upsells to the advertisers/affiliate links on their site), while they ruin the value of your content for the people like myself whom licensed your content as bonus content for their Members area.

So which is it?

ADG

It doesn't seem like it would make financial sense to cater to your desires...It's not like you built a site around that content...It's just fluff material, which gets old as all content does...Why would he go through the hassle and expense of getting them to remove content that he already sold when instead, he can just recycle his old content and just sell it to them?

So he's going to abandon that whole business model because you think that your fluff bonus material is being devalued?.....If he does, he's a fool......

Fuck it....embed some of those videos off of the tube sites in your members area....

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#118

07-22-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by Blackamooka

This is true. However, what most people fail to realize is that this is a precedent set in Viacom vs. Google and just because Google can get away with using DMCA to shield itself against punitive damages does not necessarily mean that some fucktard running a porn tube can get away with it also. Somebody just needs to step up to the fucking plate.

In addition, the judge in Viacom vs. Google did not take statutory damages off the table, that has yet to be determined. No precedent has been set, which means that program owners could still sue for statutory damages. The only reason this shit is still legal is because no one is fighting to make it illegal. Yes, what they are doing is perfectly legal at the moment, but let's call a fucking spade a spade. What they are doing is exploiting a legal loophole to rob this industry blind so they can line their pockets.

you do realize that viacom hasn't yet gone thru all the evidence yet
they still could prove that youtube employees themselves uploaded the content.

Of course it is possible that the evidence will prove that viacom employees or agents uploaded the content, which under the DMCA would make viacom responsible for 100% of the legal expenses of youtube including any business loses due to the bad publicity.

they are willing to risk a lot of money to try and CHANGE the law.
personally i think it is stupid since it so easy to exploit the traffic source if you know how.

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#119

07-22-2009, 04:52 AM

nice, i thought 1:2000+ on bdsm/fetish can't get any worse...

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#120

07-22-2009, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by BVF

It doesn't seem like it would make financial sense to cater to your desires...It's not like you built a site around that content...It's just fluff material, which gets old as all content does...Why would he go through the hassle and expense of getting them to remove content that he already sold when instead, he can just recycle his old content and just sell it to them?

So he's going to abandon that whole business model because you think that your fluff bonus material is being devalued?.....If he does, he's a fool......

Fuck it....embed some of those videos off of the tube sites in your members area....

or setup a private tracker and upsell a bunch of dating/live chat sites, ama contract was screwed up enough that he actually licienced that behaviour.

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