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  • Blackamooka
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2008
    • 495

    #101
    By the way, I'm pretty sure all it would take is a court order to find out without a doubt who is behind all of those sites. That's not that difficult to get....
    The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.

    - Voltaire

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    • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
      Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
      • Jul 2004
      • 38323

      #102
      Originally posted by xxxjay
      Content flatlines in value as soon as you sell it non-exclusively. Sure you might get 10k in one day, but after that you ability to make money from that content again is almost nil.

      More producers need to get that through their heads. Not that the tubes sites are paying for the videos they post anyways.
      Hey Jay, good to see you back in action...

      I understand that the value of content goes down once it is labeled as "non-exclusive", however, the practice until recently has been that the content was licensed for use in Members areas, with only a certain limited amount of content being authorized for traffic generating purposes (15-20 pix or 1-2 minutes of video).

      A person/company that made their money back several times from the content off their own DVDs/sites, and then resells/licenses their content to other webmasters (for limited, paid member only use), should not then bargain basement their content to the rip-off tube/torrents sites, which in effect helps to legitimize their otherwise illegal operations, as well as devalues their content to other people whom only purchased the content since they understood that there was a level playing field, and the bulk of the content could only be displayed in designated Members areas.

      If a 3rd party content producer thinks that they can sell content to pirate tube and torrents sites, and thus undermining the deals that they previously did with legit webmasters, and expect the status quo to prevail, then they are in for a rude awakening.

      If they think there is any future in that business model, since legit purchasers of 3rd party content will quit buying from them, and once one of the pirates posts it on their site, all of the other would-be pirate clients will simply leech off of the original pirate site.

      Yet another adult business model doomed to failure...

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      • natron
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 7458

        #103
        Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
        Last edited by Eric; 07-22-2009, 11:20 AM.

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        • JFK
          FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
          • Jan 2002
          • 67373

          #104
          Originally posted by CAMOKAT
          ask JFK. He has pictures of it on FUBAR but he wasn't there..
          I was there to take pics of the seminars - roundtables, but did not actually sit down and listen to what was said, it was in russian. I rarely sit down and listen to any conference, mainly because its the same old, same old, rehashed 10 ways from centre

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          • AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
            Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
            • Jul 2004
            • 38323

            #105
            Originally posted by JFK
            I was there to take pics of the seminars - roundtables, but did not actually sit down and listen to what was said, it was in russian. I rarely sit down and listen to any conference, mainly because its the same old, same old, rehashed 10 ways from centre


            Exactly why most shooters don't get aroused/erections when shooting - they are too busy focusing on the work...

            Now, if you get aroused during post-production, then you know that you have gold!!!

            Actually, if you are experienced, you generally know it is good when you are shooting it, but you are too preoccupied to acknowledge it, in order to ensure that you have the technical aspects straight as well....

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            • mlove
              the guy
              • Apr 2005
              • 764

              #106
              Originally posted by SomeCreep
              This is an old argument. The bottom line is DMCA laws need to change to make site owners responsible for the stolen content on their site, no matter what, whether a user uploaded it or not. I doubt that will happen though. So although "illegal tubes" are unethical, they still have the law on their side and that's all they need to stay in business.
              The DMCA already does that. Issue a complaint to the isp (usually the owner of the ip block), if the content is still online after several days, follow-up with the isp. If it remains online for more than a couple of weeks, contact your lawyer, and have them file suit against the ISP. However, if the user follows a counter-dmca notice, then they need to provide their address & contact information. At that point, the isp is declared irresponsible for the accessibility of the content, and you follow suit against the owner of the site. If the ISP doesn't get back to you after a couple of weeks, you have a case against the isp.

              Remember, porn & mp3s aren't the only thing that the DMCA protects. If some dickhead felt like copy and pasting every word & page from a book onto a thread in this forum, that'd be a dmca violation too.

              Doesn't stop there. Did you know that the people who operate the Eiffel tower hold a copyright that prohibits even amateur photographers from publishing photos taken of the eiffel tower at night while it's lights are on? Go read this:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_...pyright_claims

              Those people could legally DMCA anyone in the united states for publishing a photo they took themselves.
              If you won't feel as good, I won't feel as cheap.

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              • V_RocKs
                Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                • Nov 2003
                • 32447

                #107
                Sweet! I just saw my first animal porn and cum swapping... never really cared to buy that shit but here they have it for free!

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                • mOrrI
                  It's over there...
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 4212

                  #108
                  Originally posted by xxxjay
                  I won't post the links here because I don't want to link GFY and this shit, but seems like they are into some rape porn as well.

                  passedoutpussy dot com = moviebox = brazzers

                  http://www.passedoutpussy dot com/girls/passedoutpussy404.jpg
                  http://www.passedoutpussy dot com/girls/passedoutpussy559.jpg

                  visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this - brazzers.com, moviebox.com, sexinyourcity.com, and pornhub.com

                  when did it become ok to process RAPE sites?
                  This is not good at all

                  Sad to see this kind of shit...

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                  • mlove
                    the guy
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 764

                    #109
                    Originally posted by mOrrI
                    This is not good at all

                    Sad to see this kind of shit...
                    Speaking as someone who had a rape kink between the ages of 17 and 20, The chances that the video is depicting a legitimate rape is nearly impossible. Additionally, 5/6 of the girls I've dated during the past 2 years have all told me about their rape fantasies, and I role played that fantasy with 4 of them. Really, it's not a big deal. It's extremely common.

                    And the whole "visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this" statement is stupid too. Do you think visa and mastercard would be happy about their cards being used to buy a subscription to a site with a video showing 5 guys draining their load in the ass of a 19 year old thai girl who then pushes the combined load into a martini glass that the camera man pours into her mouth as she chokes herself? As long as the porn is legal, and they don't give a shit.

                    I've bought lube & sounds to shove down my urethra using my visa card. Nobody's called me to tell me they're revoking my membership yet.
                    Last edited by mlove; 07-22-2009, 02:47 AM.
                    If you won't feel as good, I won't feel as cheap.

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                    • Blazed
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1701

                      #110
                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                      You know if you really wanted to fuck these guys you could also send reports to google about all of the paid links they are buying. You can track them easily:

                      http://www.google.com/search?q=link%...ient=firefox-a

                      You can report links by being logged in to google:
                      www.google.com/webmasters/
                      But then the same could be done about your own link trading. Unless you use nofollow which you obviously dont you are also breaking the guidelines, like everybody else on this forum. Reporting that shit to google is pathetic, its not only brazzers buying the links who could be damaged but regular webmasters selling them you are trying to fuck up...

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                      • lazzlo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3709

                        #111
                        back with a bang! thanks for the scoop jay.

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                        • Dirty Lord
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2681

                          #112
                          Hot website!

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                          • lopez
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 299

                            #113
                            as the tube business model seem to work,
                            why doesnt anyone:
                            1. get a tube script
                            2. signup for brazzers paysites
                            3. download their updates every day and put it on your own tube

                            now, keep it only brazzers content to make it really sting.

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                            • american pervert
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6840

                              #114
                              its a shame im not allowed in canada. i'd gladly go up there and sort things out.
                              I can resist everything except temptation

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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32235

                                #115
                                Originally posted by lopez
                                as the tube business model seem to work,
                                why doesnt anyone:
                                1. get a tube script
                                2. signup for brazzers paysites
                                3. download their updates every day and put it on your own tube

                                now, keep it only brazzers content to make it really sting.
                                Well their content is on rapidshare already one way or another.

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                                • V_RocKs
                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32447

                                  #116
                                  Sweet, you just saved me $28!

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                                  • BVF
                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 13975

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude


                                    Joe, your content, which you have licensed and resold to other webmasters (including myself), is all over practically every large tube site:

                                    KeezMovies (purportedly owned by, or in cahoots with Brazzers) - Added 7 months ago (37,000+ views - Miko Sinz in your bedroom sucking your dick):

                                    http://www.keezmovies.com/432331

                                    Pornhub - Page 1 under "Asian" (supposedly also owned by Brazzers):

                                    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...9231b10c726488

                                    Uploaded 1 Year Ago (480,000+ views)

                                    Tube8 - Uploaded 7 months ago (336,000+ views):

                                    http://www.tube8.com/asian/leandra-lee/80796/

                                    RedTube - Over 1.7 million views:

                                    http://www.redtube.com/20407


                                    Sure wish you would do something about this (unless you condone it), since it is devaluing the thousands of dollars worth of content which I licensed from you.

                                    It only took a few minutes for me to find these videos which have been online 6+ months and have been cumulatively viewed by millions for free.

                                    I find it hard to believe that you are unaware...

                                    I sure hope you are trying to contact someone from KeezMovies to remove your content, instead of selling/licensing them your content (since you already made back your investment on that product), because you know they will repost it to surfers for free (in hopes of upsells to the advertisers/affiliate links on their site), while they ruin the value of your content for the people like myself whom licensed your content as bonus content for their Members area.

                                    So which is it?

                                    ADG
                                    It doesn't seem like it would make financial sense to cater to your desires...It's not like you built a site around that content...It's just fluff material, which gets old as all content does...Why would he go through the hassle and expense of getting them to remove content that he already sold when instead, he can just recycle his old content and just sell it to them?

                                    So he's going to abandon that whole business model because you think that your fluff bonus material is being devalued?.....If he does, he's a fool......

                                    Fuck it....embed some of those videos off of the tube sites in your members area....

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                                    • gideongallery
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2003
                                      • 7082

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by Blackamooka
                                      This is true. However, what most people fail to realize is that this is a precedent set in Viacom vs. Google and just because Google can get away with using DMCA to shield itself against punitive damages does not necessarily mean that some fucktard running a porn tube can get away with it also. Somebody just needs to step up to the fucking plate.

                                      In addition, the judge in Viacom vs. Google did not take statutory damages off the table, that has yet to be determined. No precedent has been set, which means that program owners could still sue for statutory damages. The only reason this shit is still legal is because no one is fighting to make it illegal. Yes, what they are doing is perfectly legal at the moment, but let's call a fucking spade a spade. What they are doing is exploiting a legal loophole to rob this industry blind so they can line their pockets.
                                      you do realize that viacom hasn't yet gone thru all the evidence yet
                                      they still could prove that youtube employees themselves uploaded the content.

                                      Of course it is possible that the evidence will prove that viacom employees or agents uploaded the content, which under the DMCA would make viacom responsible for 100% of the legal expenses of youtube including any business loses due to the bad publicity.

                                      they are willing to risk a lot of money to try and CHANGE the law.
                                      personally i think it is stupid since it so easy to exploit the traffic source if you know how.

                                      “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                      • bns666
                                        Confirmed Fetishist
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 11553

                                        #119
                                        nice, i thought 1:2000+ on bdsm/fetish can't get any worse...
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                                        • gideongallery
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 7082

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by BVF
                                          It doesn't seem like it would make financial sense to cater to your desires...It's not like you built a site around that content...It's just fluff material, which gets old as all content does...Why would he go through the hassle and expense of getting them to remove content that he already sold when instead, he can just recycle his old content and just sell it to them?

                                          So he's going to abandon that whole business model because you think that your fluff bonus material is being devalued?.....If he does, he's a fool......

                                          Fuck it....embed some of those videos off of the tube sites in your members area....
                                          or setup a private tracker and upsell a bunch of dating/live chat sites, ama contract was screwed up enough that he actually licienced that behaviour.

                                          “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                                          • Phoenix
                                            BACON BACON BACON
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 35475

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by american pervert
                                            its a shame im not allowed in canada. i'd gladly go up there and sort things out.
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                                            • MaDalton
                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 39861

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
                                              Hey Jay, good to see you back in action...

                                              I understand that the value of content goes down once it is labeled as "non-exclusive", however, the practice until recently has been that the content was licensed for use in Members areas, with only a certain limited amount of content being authorized for traffic generating purposes (15-20 pix or 1-2 minutes of video).

                                              A person/company that made their money back several times from the content off their own DVDs/sites, and then resells/licenses their content to other webmasters (for limited, paid member only use), should not then bargain basement their content to the rip-off tube/torrents sites, which in effect helps to legitimize their otherwise illegal operations, as well as devalues their content to other people whom only purchased the content since they understood that there was a level playing field, and the bulk of the content could only be displayed in designated Members areas.

                                              If a 3rd party content producer thinks that they can sell content to pirate tube and torrents sites, and thus undermining the deals that they previously did with legit webmasters, and expect the status quo to prevail, then they are in for a rude awakening.

                                              If they think there is any future in that business model, since legit purchasers of 3rd party content will quit buying from them, and once one of the pirates posts it on their site, all of the other would-be pirate clients will simply leech off of the original pirate site.

                                              Yet another adult business model doomed to failure...

                                              ADG
                                              this is exactly why I don't sell to tube sites although i could have made some money that way. but i would have screwed up my future business. same applies to "cheap blowout sales" btw
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                                              • Manowar
                                                jellyfish  
                                                • Dec 2003
                                                • 71528

                                                #123
                                                anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

                                                lol

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                                                • dyna mo
                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                  • 68184

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by Manowar
                                                  anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

                                                  lol
                                                  wow, and a slap in the face to top it off.

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                                                  • Machete_
                                                    WINNING!
                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 14579

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by Manowar
                                                    anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

                                                    lol
                                                    royalty fee should be send by epassporte to [email protected]

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                                                    • Klen
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 32235

                                                      #126
                                                      Another new affiliate program from brazzers:
                                                      http://affiliates.ireel.com/

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                                                      • HighSociety
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                        • 1786

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Manowar
                                                        anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

                                                        lol

                                                        omg...bitch slap!
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                                                        • topnotch, standup guy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2008
                                                          • 1562

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by Manowar
                                                          anyone notice the quote at the top of extremetube now?

                                                          lol
                                                          Brazzers has been sticking it to the industry for years now and that's cos of all the idiots who cheerfully bend over and... adapt
                                                          A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                          • Machete_
                                                            WINNING!
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 14579

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                                                            Brazzers has been sticking it to the industry for years now and that's cos of all the idiots who cheerfully bend over and... adapt
                                                            Where did Polisharistocrat go?

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                                                            • LeRoy
                                                              Porn Pusher
                                                              • Jul 2007
                                                              • 13364

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by mlove
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                                                              • TwisterPro
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2009
                                                                • 225

                                                                #131
                                                                lol that is just a smack in the face. How many god damn surfers know what GFY is anyone.. the mother fuckers are just rubbing it in that they are profiting from jacking everyone elses content.

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                                                                • topnotch, standup guy
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                                  • 1562

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by KrisH
                                                                  Where did Polisharistocrat go?
                                                                  Off to fill his wine glass I would imagine.



                                                                  Why do you ask?
                                                                  A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                  • Machete_
                                                                    WINNING!
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14579

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy

                                                                    Why do you ask?
                                                                    Just havent seen him post since I came back from my traveling. He was one of brazzers bigest fans, and would be interesting to see his view on this, since he was aware of the project all along

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                                                                    • quantum-x
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 6863

                                                                      #134
                                                                      Originally posted by mlove
                                                                      Speaking as someone who had a rape kink between the ages of 17 and 20, The chances that the video is depicting a legitimate rape is nearly impossible. Additionally, 5/6 of the girls I've dated during the past 2 years have all told me about their rape fantasies, and I role played that fantasy with 4 of them. Really, it's not a big deal. It's extremely common.

                                                                      And the whole "visa and mastercard wouldn't be happy about this" statement is stupid too. Do you think visa and mastercard would be happy about their cards being used to buy a subscription to a site with a video showing 5 guys draining their load in the ass of a 19 year old thai girl who then pushes the combined load into a martini glass that the camera man pours into her mouth as she chokes herself? As long as the porn is legal, and they don't give a shit.

                                                                      I've bought lube & sounds to shove down my urethra using my visa card. Nobody's called me to tell me they're revoking my membership yet.

                                                                      You're 1000% wrong and it's obvious you've never dealt with a merchant account bank. The depiction of an illegal activity is just as bad as the activity itself, especially when you're explicit about it. There's no difference in the eyes when you are depicting an illegal activity. It would be no different if you did a site with all legal girls who look underage and then advertise about how these girls look so young and make it obvious you're trying to hit the kiddy porn angle, same with beastiality - showing a girl on a horse riding around, and then advertising how all these girls are fucking the horse even if it's not actually true. Fake rape is in the exact same category.

                                                                      And I agree, many people have a rape fantasy - visa and MC dont care. You can argue back that I'm wrong, but I am telling you, YOU ARE WRONG, and thats final. Faking rape is not acceptable to Visa and MC. There is a strict policy against anything that looks nonconsensual, it can end in total termination and being put out of business.

                                                                      Stop pretending like you know, because it's clear you don't know. Pick up the phone and call the people who bank in our industry, tell them you want to do a fake rape site - see what they say.
                                                                      Last edited by quantum-x; 07-22-2009, 08:16 AM.
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                                                                      • MeganS
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                                        • 1487

                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                        LOL...that describes TTBoy to a tee.

                                                                        LOL ... i agree!!

                                                                        I had a nice convo with him recently ... sweet guy, but he is very "right is right"!

                                                                        He has nothing but wonderful things to say about you guys!!

                                                                        xoxo,
                                                                        Megan
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                                                                        • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2008
                                                                          • 372

                                                                          #136
                                                                          I can't wait for the day that Stephanie and hahahahahahaha rip off TT Boy for some cash...

                                                                          First I will stop by JM's office and borrow the "Sunshine Bat" from Jeff, then I will buy a plane ticket to Montreal and patiently await Phil's arrival, I will hand him the "Sunshine Bat" and then I will sit back and enjoy the show. I shall videotape the whole thing, which I will then burn to DVD and send copies to everyone on GFY. We will then upload the video to every tube site known to man, seed it on all the torrent sites and flood rapidshare with the footage.

                                                                          It will be on YouTube and we'll make animated gifs for ytmnd.com and possibly, yes, we will make a facebook cause dedicated to glorifying the footage along with a tube site dedicated to user-generated mashups of those two little squirrel-dicks getting their faces caved in by TT! Oh what a glorious day!

                                                                          TT Boy > a bunch of pussy ass foosball players and thieves.
                                                                          Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                          • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2008
                                                                            • 372

                                                                            #137
                                                                            WTF...you can't say the owner of Brazzers name? WTF? GFY showin' it's BRO card or what?
                                                                            Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                            • maxjohan
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 7219

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                                              Hidden cross sales, prechecked cross sales, hidden prechecked cross sales, tubes, tgps, forums, torrents, chicken little and the virgin mary... what do they all have in common?
                                                                              .......................................
                                                                              I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                              • BFT3K
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Dec 2005
                                                                                • 10764

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by Denny
                                                                                tube sites steal our traffic/money!!!!!!!!
                                                                                The first tube guys should have been eliminated immediately.

                                                                                It's still not too late for some lessons to be learned...

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                                                                                • nudecanada
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 793

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                                  WTF...you can't say the owner of Brazzers name? WTF? GFY showin' it's BRO card or what?
                                                                                  If you go here and view/source their whole staff is listed, including pictures.
                                                                                  http://www.mansef.com/?t=staff

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                                                                                  • Ayla_SquareTurtle
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                    • 3550

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    What is/was the quote? Can't see it on my end.
                                                                                    gone. long gone.

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                                                                                    • maxjohan
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 7219

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      All I can say is this: business people in da bizness



                                                                                      What about building a legimated real long term business for ones in a lifetime....

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                                                                                      • xxxjay
                                                                                        Tube groupie.
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 13482

                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                                                        You're 1000% wrong and it's obvious you've never dealt with a merchant account bank. The depiction of an illegal activity is just as bad as the activity itself, especially when you're explicit about it. There's no difference in the eyes when you are depicting an illegal activity. It would be no different if you did a site with all legal girls who look underage and then advertise about how these girls look so young and make it obvious you're trying to hit the kiddy porn angle, same with beastiality - showing a girl on a horse riding around, and then advertising how all these girls are fucking the horse even if it's not actually true. Fake rape is in the exact same category.

                                                                                        And I agree, many people have a rape fantasy - visa and MC dont care. You can argue back that I'm wrong, but I am telling you, YOU ARE WRONG, and thats final. Faking rape is not acceptable to Visa and MC. There is a strict policy against anything that looks nonconsensual, it can end in total termination and being put out of business.

                                                                                        Stop pretending like you know, because it's clear you don't know. Pick up the phone and call the people who bank in our industry, tell them you want to do a fake rape site - see what they say.
                                                                                        Thanks for saying that so I didn't have to.
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                                                                                        • KillerK
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2008
                                                                                          • 3406

                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                                                          Looks like they are out to fuck up niche traffic for everyone with a Fetish porn tube:
                                                                                          www.extremetube.com

                                                                                          Fun, fun.
                                                                                          You of all people shouldn't complain. Your brothers at AFF bought Zango traffic on your own domain as well as thousands of other webmasters and you still promote them.

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                                                                                          • xxxjay
                                                                                            Tube groupie.
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 13482

                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            Originally posted by KillerK
                                                                                            You of all people shouldn't complain. Your brothers at AFF bought Zango traffic on your own domain as well as thousands of other webmasters and you still promote them.
                                                                                            Like I've said a million times before: It is impossible to avoid doing business with everyone you don't agree with something they are doing. Everyone does something you don't agree with. If you were a big crusader, you'd be stuck doing business with a few mom and pop operations and may feel good because you are :doing the right thing". but making no sales.



                                                                                            Fuck it, I'm gonna start a rape site too!
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                                                                                            • topnotch, standup guy
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2008
                                                                                              • 1562

                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              Originally posted by nudecanada
                                                                                              If you go here and view/source their whole staff is listed, including pictures.
                                                                                              http://www.mansef.com/?t=staff
                                                                                              Looks like all the cockroaches just went scurrying off the page. Nothing there now
                                                                                              A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                                              • Profits of Doom
                                                                                                Monster Rain
                                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                                • 4978

                                                                                                #147
                                                                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                that's the only thing that would work but nobody has the nads to do it. old school porn biz operated that way from what I've read.
                                                                                                Maybe some of the old school brick and mortar mob affiliated guys, but if you think about it the Brazzers guys have already shown much more of a propensity to handle biz in that matter than any of the windbags on here. They already seem to operate with an organized crime mentality and it doesn't appear that anyone's tough talk is frightening them too much...
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                                                                                                • Machete_
                                                                                                  WINNING!
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 14579

                                                                                                  #148
                                                                                                  Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                                                                                                  Looks like all the cockroaches just went scurrying off the page. Nothing there now
                                                                                                  It's there right after
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                                                                                                  • topnotch, standup guy
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                                                                    • 1562

                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                    Originally posted by KrisH
                                                                                                    It's there right after
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                                                                                                    A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                                                    • JFK
                                                                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                      • 67373

                                                                                                      #150
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