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  • Juicy D. Links
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992
    #1

    Question.. why is the USA still at "war" and has all these troops deployed???

    Obama is ready to deploy 30,000 more troops.....in his speech tonight..

    Bush brought us in this war initially for reasons at the time we thought were "payback" for 9/11... but its 8+ years later and what has been accomplished except for all the $$ spent and endless lives lost?

    Enlighten me please?
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    • StickyGreen
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      • Oct 2003
      • 13076
      #2
      The U.S. military is a proxy military. They are used by certain groups of people to achieve their goals.

      For example, one of the main things being fought over in Afghanistan right now is a massive pipeline.
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        • Deej
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          • Jun 2005
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          #3
          I was having this argument with my roommate last night...

          I personally am not convinced of why were there.

          By being there we are not directly protecting our own country. Convince me otherwise...

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            • jtrade
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              I think Sticky is got the idea.. unfortunately

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                • StickyGreen
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 13076
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Deej

                  I personally am not convinced of why were there.

                  By being there we are not directly protecting our own country.
                  We are inviting more terrorist attacks against us simply by being over there, they hate it, they can't stand it, and they are willing to die in order to get us out of there...

                  Would you like it if Afghani tanks and soldiers were all up in your neighborhood here in America? Doubt it...
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                    • joshll
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                      and the states are like what ? 17 trillion dollars in debt ?
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                        • okny
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                          • Aug 2002
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                          #7
                          I mean what is the point the U.S. economy is going to shit and we are trying to save a desert. It's to the profit of the top people in politics and that's it and the rest get to pay taxes for somebody's war.
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                            • Juicy D. Links
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                              • Apr 2001
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by joshll
                              and the states are like what ? 17 trillion dollars in debt ?
                              its OK , AMEX extended the US Gov's credit line to 900 trillion.

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                                • BradM
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                                  • Dec 2003
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                                  #9
                                  I don't get it either. Wasn't Obama voted in so he would END the war not add more troops? So confusing.

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                                    • StickyGreen
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                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 13076
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                      I don't get it either. Wasn't Obama voted in so he would END the war not add more troops? So confusing.
                                      It's not confusing if you were one of the people who could see through the typical bullshit and understood early on in the elections that McCain and Obama were both puppets of the elite agenda, just as most of the Republican and Democrat "duos" they throw at the American people every 4 years are. But Americans fell for all the bullshit... Obama's nice smile and all that crap, they look at it as an American Idol popularity contest or something because they are completely oblivious to the important issues. Anyone who actually thought something was going to "change" with this puppet douchebag in office is probably retarded.
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                                        • TheDoc
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                                          • Jul 2001
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                                          #11
                                          Well, Bin Laden was in the mountains of Afgan, which is like hiding your keys in the Rockies for someone else to find. Being that we help put he structure of Gov in, we took it apart and tried again.

                                          If we pull out of Afgan, they will simply take over. Like they are doing, somewhat, in Pakistan. But being that Pakistan is an actual Gov with a military, etc... we are working with them, rather than taking them over first to take over someone else.

                                          Today we aren't fighting more, we are helping more... yes we still fight, but the war direction has changed. Instead of 'taking over Afgan' we are presenting the idea of 'working with the Afgan people' to make it safe for them.

                                          We need more troops because we can't patrol the areas we clean out... for example when they clear miles of roads, right now we have to re-clear to get back to camp... if we could patrol it, we wouldn't have to do that.. making things appear safer, thus allowing Gov, control, order, trust to be restored.
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                                            • StickyGreen
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                                              • Oct 2003
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                                              #12
                                              When President Eisenhower left office he warned us about the military industrial complex:

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                                                • StickyGreen
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                                                  • Oct 2003
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                                                  #13
                                                  JFK also warned us what was going on:



                                                  People typically respond to this video by saying something like "Well he's just talking about communism." Well you're damn right, he is talking about communism, because the "global conspiracy" he is talking about is exactly that: a plan for a one-world communist government.
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                                                    • StickyGreen
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                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                      Well, Bin Laden was in the mountains of Afgan, which is like hiding your keys in the Rockies for someone else to find. Being that we help put he structure of Gov in, we took it apart and tried again.

                                                      If we pull out of Afgan, they will simply take over. Like they are doing, somewhat, in Pakistan. But being that Pakistan is an actual Gov with a military, etc... we are working with them, rather than taking them over first to take over someone else.

                                                      Today we aren't fighting more, we are helping more... yes we still fight, but the war direction has changed. Instead of 'taking over Afgan' we are presenting the idea of 'working with the Afgan people' to make it safe for them.

                                                      We need more troops because we can't patrol the areas we clean out... for example when they clear miles of roads, right now we have to re-clear to get back to camp... if we could patrol it, we wouldn't have to do that.. making things appear safer, thus allowing Gov, control, order, trust to be restored.
                                                      You must love that kool-aid. Go pour another glass...
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                                                        • Juicy D. Links
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                                                          • Apr 2001
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                          Well, Bin Laden was in the mountains of Afgan, which is like hiding your keys in the Rockies for someone else to find. Being that we help put he structure of Gov in, we took it apart and tried again.

                                                          If we pull out of Afgan, they will simply take over. Like they are doing, somewhat, in Pakistan. But being that Pakistan is an actual Gov with a military, etc... we are working with them, rather than taking them over first to take over someone else.

                                                          Today we aren't fighting more, we are helping more... yes we still fight, but the war direction has changed. Instead of 'taking over Afgan' we are presenting the idea of 'working with the Afgan people' to make it safe for them.

                                                          We need more troops because we can't patrol the areas we clean out... for example when they clear miles of roads, right now we have to re-clear to get back to camp... if we could patrol it, we wouldn't have to do that.. making things appear safer, thus allowing Gov, control, order, trust to be restored.

                                                          we should pullout completely and let nature take its course over there...

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                                                                • billywatson
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  The Military Industrial Complex...plus, what are they all gonna do if we bring them home? Unemployment is double-digits, right?

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                                                                    • Deej
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                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                      • 24386
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                      We are inviting more terrorist attacks against us simply by being over there, they hate it, they can't stand it, and they are willing to die in order to get us out of there...

                                                                      Would you like it if Afghani tanks and soldiers were all up in your neighborhood here in America? Doubt it...
                                                                      Hey man, im with ya...

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                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 13827
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                          we should pullout completely and let nature take its course over there...
                                                                          Nature's course in the case will be them quickly taking the Gov over, killing everyone that was against them, restoring crazy law and then proceed to attack American targets.

                                                                          I'm all for the pull out of Iraq... but Afgan isn't ready for that.
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                                                                            • fatfoo
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              30,000 more troops to deploy? Wow.

                                                                              They should make a musical called "Osama vs. Obama" - it will sell well.

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                                                                                • POed-poster
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Bin Laden is still wasting oxygen. That's why we are still there.

                                                                                  We let him escape in December 2001, probably so we could sell the Iraq war to the rest of the world. I almost hope there really is a Hell! Bush will rot.
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                                                                                    • POed-poster
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by fatfoo
                                                                                      30,000 more troops to deploy? Wow.

                                                                                      They should make a musical called "Osama vs. Obama" - it will sell well.

                                                                                      Obama - I will not send Americans to their death unless completely neccesary
                                                                                      Osama - We will terrorize Americans and hide in mountains and behind a tree
                                                                                      To the far IDIOT right, Obama = Osama
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                                                                                        • StickyGreen
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          The TAPI Pipeline

                                                                                          The 1,680 kilometres (1,040 mi) pipeline will run from the Dauletabad gas field to Afghanistan. From there TAPI will be constructed alongside the highway running from Herat to Kandahar, and then via Quettaand Multan in Pakistan. The final destination of the pipeline will be the Indian town of Fazilka, near the border between Pakistan and India.[3]
                                                                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline



                                                                                          Within Asia, there's something called the "Golden Crescent", an area of illicit opium production. Afghanistan's major export is opium, where i'm sure the CIA would love for it to flourish to further embellish & embrace organized crime. That's one reason for occupation, but there's another motive - transit of the black gold from one of the last bastions on the planet with a huge reserve of oil & gas...

                                                                                          So where's the oil and gas?

                                                                                          The Caspian Sea and gas fields in Turkmenistan, that's where. There is now a sense of urgency to extract these reserves as peak oil has now been reached. Experts estimate the Caspian could hold "possible reserves" of up to 233 billion barrels of oil. By comparison, Saudi Arabia has 261 billion barrels of oil and the United States 23 billion!

                                                                                          The TAPI pipeline will go through Afghanistan and the quasi-government ran by karzai (who was apparently an ex-employee of Unocal, the US oil company who were involved with a memorandum of understanding for the pipeline proposed build way back in 1996). Afghanistan will get huge transit fees for this pipeline, hence the blatant corruption that's going on with Karzai's 'smoke 'n mirrors' tenancy, as he was bought many moons ago and bent over the proverbial barrel.

                                                                                          Proof that oil is the reason...

                                                                                          Look at the map; notice the deaths of military in and around the proposed pipeline, especially Helmand Province. The TAPI pipeline will begin construction in 2010, hence the urgent surge in troop requirements to secure the route.

                                                                                          It's also interesting to note, that a brand new highway was constructed between Herat and Kandahar which the Afghans thought served no purpose, but of course it does serve a purpose because the pipeline will run alongside the highway!

                                                                                          So whilst the Taliban occupy the highlands and poppy fields, the military are busy safeguarding the proposed Herat / Kandahar silk route. If more troops are sent in the name of democracy and fighting Taliban resistance, just expect more casualties of war in and around the this key region, thus corroborating the real reason for the war...OIL.

                                                                                          Oh but wait, nevermind all of that information, we're just there to "get Bin Laden."
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                                                                                            • TheDoc
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                                                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Wow... for like the 100th time this year people have informed us of what we already knew. With you guys being so informed, why are you posting on GFY and not not protesting, making websites to inform people, passing out letters, getting signatures, going on the radio and ACTUALLY doing something about it?


                                                                                              Now back to your normal programed life where we still have troops in Afgan doing an actual job....
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                                                                                                • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                                  I don't get it either. Wasn't Obama voted in so he would END the war not add more troops? So confusing.
                                                                                                  Well he did end the war on terrorism. Just did not get much coverage.

                                                                                                  Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                  we should pullout completely and let nature take its course over there...
                                                                                                  You know that expression, you break it you buy it? Well...

                                                                                                  We just need to stop fucking up countries and then letting nature (bullies and wackos with guns) to take its course. We need to do the right thing and finish what is needed until the Government can run itself.

                                                                                                  I just wish all the money we wasted in Iraq was spent there instead.

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                                                                                                    • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                                      Well he did end the war on terrorism. Just did not get much coverage.



                                                                                                      You know that expression, you break it you buy it? Well...

                                                                                                      We just need to stop fucking up countries and then letting nature (bullies and wackos with guns) to take its course. We need to do the right thing and finish what is needed until the Government can run itself.

                                                                                                      I just wish all the money we wasted in Iraq was spent there instead.
                                                                                                      lol, it has nothing to do with their "government running itself," it has everything to do with protecting the pipeline.

                                                                                                      There are tons of countries in this world where the government is all fucked up... but are we invading them with an attempt to "help them rebuild?" lol, of course not, because there ain't no oil there, its in Afghanistan.
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                                                                                                        • After Shock Media
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I care not about no pipe line.
                                                                                                          I care about countries we fucked up first.

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                                                                                                            • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                                              I care not about no pipe line.
                                                                                                              I care about countries we fucked up first.
                                                                                                              Hate to break it to you, but it doesn't matter what you care about, or what any American cares about for that matter. That is the problem we are facing.
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                                                                                                                • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                  lol, it has nothing to do with their "government running itself," it has everything to do with protecting the pipeline.

                                                                                                                  There are tons of countries in this world where the government is all fucked up... but are we invading them with an attempt to "help them rebuild?" lol, of course not, because there ain't no oil there, its in Afghanistan.
                                                                                                                  We need the Gov to be able to run itself, protect itself, so it can protect our Oil Line that gives us strategic advantages over Asia Countries mainly China.

                                                                                                                  When you can control the regions natural resources that they limited amounts of, you control the Country. This is why China has been on a mission to find its own resources.


                                                                                                                  It's so simple, but simple minded people think it's a big'ol conspiracy.
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                                                                                                                    • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                      We need the Gov to be able to run itself, protect itself, so it can protect our Oil Line that gives us strategic advantages over Asia Countries mainly China.

                                                                                                                      When you can control the regions natural resources that they limited amounts of, you control the Country. This is why China has been on a mission to find its own resources.


                                                                                                                      It's so simple, but simple minded people think it's a big'ol conspiracy.
                                                                                                                      Yea, people like JFK:

                                                                                                                      "We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding it's sphere of influence.......... It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It's preperations are concealed, not published. It's mistakes are buried, not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - JFK

                                                                                                                      Oh but wait, JFK must have been a simple-minded tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist nutjob... my bad...
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                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                          Yea, people like JFK:

                                                                                                                          "We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding it's sphere of influence.......... It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. It's preperations are concealed, not published. It's mistakes are buried, not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed." - JFK

                                                                                                                          Oh but wait, JFK must have been a simple-minded tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist nutjob... my bad...

                                                                                                                          Aye we all get that their is a world wide conspiracy which has followers that speak about the theory but do nothing about it other than post other peoples quotes.

                                                                                                                          Then again... JFK wasn't talking about Afgan, 9/11, terrorism and the possible advantages of having the pipe line.
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                                                                                                                            • theking
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                                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Some people say..."Iraq was/is just about the oil". Some people say..."Afghanistan was/is just about the pipeline". Even if this was all that either is about...oil and gas...do you not understand that nations engage in conflict...for economic well being/survival? If you do not think that economic well being/survival is a reason to engage in the use of force...so be it...but most...if not every nation on this earth (that have the ability to do so) will fight for its economic well being/survival.
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                                                                                                                                • Juicy D. Links
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                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 122992
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                                                                  Well he did end the war on terrorism. Just did not get much coverage.



                                                                                                                                  You know that expression, you break it you buy it? Well...

                                                                                                                                  We just need to stop fucking up countries and then letting nature (bullies and wackos with guns) to take its course. We need to do the right thing and finish what is needed until the Government can run itself.

                                                                                                                                  I just wish all the money we wasted in Iraq was spent there instead.
                                                                                                                                  it was really bullies with guns "per se" before we even got there

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                                                                                                                                    • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                      i saw the need for afganstan - never saw the need for iraq.

                                                                                                                                      neither did the world
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                                                                                                                                        • Glenn Beck
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                          Wow... for like the 100th time this year people have informed us of what we already knew. With you guys being so informed, why are you posting on GFY and not not protesting, making websites to inform people, passing out letters, getting signatures, going on the radio and ACTUALLY doing something about it?


                                                                                                                                          Now back to your normal programed life where we still have troops in Afgan doing an actual job....
                                                                                                                                          I think you underestimate the power that whining on a porn industry forum in front of a handful of people who barely give a shit yields.

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                                                                                                                                            • Glenn Beck
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                                              The TAPI Pipeline



                                                                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline



                                                                                                                                              Within Asia, there's something called the "Golden Crescent", an area of illicit opium production. Afghanistan's major export is opium, where i'm sure the CIA would love for it to flourish to further embellish & embrace organized crime. That's one reason for occupation, but there's another motive - transit of the black gold from one of the last bastions on the planet with a huge reserve of oil & gas...

                                                                                                                                              So where's the oil and gas?

                                                                                                                                              The Caspian Sea and gas fields in Turkmenistan, that's where. There is now a sense of urgency to extract these reserves as peak oil has now been reached. Experts estimate the Caspian could hold "possible reserves" of up to 233 billion barrels of oil. By comparison, Saudi Arabia has 261 billion barrels of oil and the United States 23 billion!

                                                                                                                                              The TAPI pipeline will go through Afghanistan and the quasi-government ran by karzai (who was apparently an ex-employee of Unocal, the US oil company who were involved with a memorandum of understanding for the pipeline proposed build way back in 1996). Afghanistan will get huge transit fees for this pipeline, hence the blatant corruption that's going on with Karzai's 'smoke 'n mirrors' tenancy, as he was bought many moons ago and bent over the proverbial barrel.

                                                                                                                                              Proof that oil is the reason...

                                                                                                                                              Look at the map; notice the deaths of military in and around the proposed pipeline, especially Helmand Province. The TAPI pipeline will begin construction in 2010, hence the urgent surge in troop requirements to secure the route.

                                                                                                                                              It's also interesting to note, that a brand new highway was constructed between Herat and Kandahar which the Afghans thought served no purpose, but of course it does serve a purpose because the pipeline will run alongside the highway!

                                                                                                                                              So whilst the Taliban occupy the highlands and poppy fields, the military are busy safeguarding the proposed Herat / Kandahar silk route. If more troops are sent in the name of democracy and fighting Taliban resistance, just expect more casualties of war in and around the this key region, thus corroborating the real reason for the war...OIL.

                                                                                                                                              Oh but wait, nevermind all of that information, we're just there to "get Bin Laden."
                                                                                                                                              Yep, we need oil to support the lifestyle that affords you the leisure time to whine on the internet about how we get said oil. heh, irony.

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                                                                                                                                                • The Demon
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                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                  Well, Bin Laden was in the mountains of Afgan, which is like hiding your keys in the Rockies for someone else to find. Being that we help put he structure of Gov in, we took it apart and tried again.

                                                                                                                                                  If we pull out of Afgan, they will simply take over. Like they are doing, somewhat, in Pakistan. But being that Pakistan is an actual Gov with a military, etc... we are working with them, rather than taking them over first to take over someone else.

                                                                                                                                                  Today we aren't fighting more, we are helping more... yes we still fight, but the war direction has changed. Instead of 'taking over Afgan' we are presenting the idea of 'working with the Afgan people' to make it safe for them.

                                                                                                                                                  We need more troops because we can't patrol the areas we clean out... for example when they clear miles of roads, right now we have to re-clear to get back to camp... if we could patrol it, we wouldn't have to do that.. making things appear safer, thus allowing Gov, control, order, trust to be restored.
                                                                                                                                                  This tool has finally said something intelligent. However, don't for one second think Bush and Obama have different goals.
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                                                                                                                                                    • The Demon
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                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 7336
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Oh and ignore Sticky and his usual incoherent ramblings about a conspiracy.
                                                                                                                                                      Greed is Good

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                                                                                                                                                        • Minte
                                                                                                                                                          Babemeister
                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 7082
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Glenn Beck
                                                                                                                                                          I think you underestimate the power that whining on a porn industry forum in front of a handful of people who barely give a shit yields.

                                                                                                                                                          Best post of the thread
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                                                                                                                                                            • baddog
                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Afghanistan is a waste of blood and money. That idiot can't figure that out.

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                                                                                                                                                                • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 13076
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Glenn Beck
                                                                                                                                                                  Yep, we need oil to support the lifestyle that affords you the leisure time to whine on the internet about how we get said oil. heh, irony.
                                                                                                                                                                  Technically, we don't need oil.

                                                                                                                                                                  But since you don't know shit I bet that sounds absolutely absurd to you.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • dav3
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                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      we need to gtfo of that shithole
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Dcat
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 1607
                                                                                                                                                                          #43

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                                                                                                                                                                            • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Dcat
                                                                                                                                                                              He was talking about the Iraq war... He didn't say he would stop the warS, we were fighting two wars.

                                                                                                                                                                              He promised "combat troops" would be out by Aug 2010 at the inauguration, that's 3 months longer than what he promised on the campaign trial.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 13076
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, he didn't promise to bring home troops specifically from Afghanistan, so that totally justifies sending 35,000 more there, right?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 122992
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh, he didn't promise to bring home troops specifically from Afghanistan, so that totally justifies sending 35,000 more there, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                      shift them our of Iraq............into afghanistan.... do what they need to do military wise....

                                                                                                                                                                                      (bomb the shit out of taliban wahtever if need be) then get out...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 13827
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh, he didn't promise to bring home troops specifically from Afghanistan, so that totally justifies sending 35,000 more there, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                          During his campaign, he made it rather clear that he was going to beef up Afgan and fight the war we should be fighting.

                                                                                                                                                                                          He is living up to a campaign promise.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • StickyGreen
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 13076
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              The war we should be fighting? lol...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • HandballJim
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 4024
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was eating lunch today at a pizzeria and had a discussion about this with the owner, he made a good point...that if the troops came home now they would not be able to find any work. So just keep them fighting a war.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have no idea what we are doing over there, money spent on the war could be put to so many other good causes. We just need to get Bin Ladin....and worry about our borders.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • spacedog
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 14149
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Remember what happened in Honduras?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The more troops they send over there, the less there'll be here to defend "We The People" when the .gov oversteps its boundaries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The people in power do what they can to remove any internal threats to their existence..

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