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Is anyone promoting dollars4all.com? Well you won't be after seeing this....

12-03-2002, 07:29 AM

Shave anyone?

Here's a screenshot from their admin area:
http://64.38.235.153/dollars4all.jpg

If you think it's fake, why not log into it yourself and have a look...

http://www.dollars4all.com/administr...calculator.php
user: serggal
pass: foryou

What else can you say about it...what a fucking scam.
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12-03-2002, 07:33 AM

And how did you get access to their system?

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12-03-2002, 07:35 AM

Wow, is this true Dollars4all.com?
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12-03-2002, 07:35 AM

I can't wait for some big gov agency to come in and rattle a few people's cages...it would be so fun to hear about some of these guys going to prison.

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12-03-2002, 07:35 AM

Confused

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12-03-2002, 07:36 AM

I don't get it:-)
How did you find this? You login to their own stats area?

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12-03-2002, 07:37 AM

Who is behind "Dollars4All.com"?

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12-03-2002, 07:38 AM

Look at the shitty conversion ratios.
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12-03-2002, 07:38 AM

hmm
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12-03-2002, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by ControlThy
And how did you get access to their system?

It's going around icq, got it from a few different friends, many pissed of webmasters....
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12-03-2002, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by justsexxx
I don't get it:-)
How did you find this? You login to their own stats area?

Something leads me to believe we might have a disgruntled employee on our hands ;) and btw...who the fuck is a "gruntled" employee?

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12-03-2002, 07:40 AM

Geez you'd have to shave with retention like that
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12-03-2002, 07:41 AM

those retention rates are awful, plus they seem to shave quite a bit.

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12-03-2002, 07:41 AM

Fucking awesome good job on the hack
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12-03-2002, 07:42 AM

so is this how most paysites make money? throw up some plug in content, shave like mad and make extra coin on upsells?
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12-03-2002, 07:43 AM

Dayum.

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12-03-2002, 07:43 AM

Keep posting this and forward to to whom ever in the governement controlls these things.

I would assume the attorney general

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12-03-2002, 07:44 AM

holy shit... they are BIG time shavers
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12-03-2002, 07:46 AM

I wonder what their new name will be when they close up and come back?
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12-03-2002, 07:46 AM

hehe, im waiting to see dbarry's words.. he owns it
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12-03-2002, 07:47 AM

Yikes!!!!!!!

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12-03-2002, 07:47 AM

maybe more interesting is how little business they are doing. even with that huge razor they aren't making anything, must be something else going on because with numbers like that they have to be losing money.

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12-03-2002, 07:47 AM

From their front page

Having trouble converting your traffic?
Look no further! Advertise trial signups on our seven outstanding niche sites and make cash like the old days! We are paying $30 for each trial signup, no exceptions! With over 5 years experience, we know how to convert your traffic into signups! Attracting fresh tours that update on a regular basis ensure the best conversion ratios possible!

Maybe they should change that no exceptions part?

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12-03-2002, 07:48 AM

Serious eye opener.
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12-03-2002, 07:49 AM

damn
this is fucking unbelieveable
i always thought something like that does not exist
i thought those people claiming they have been shaved by sponsors were wrong
but damn
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12-03-2002, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Gary
those retention rates are awful, plus they seem to shave quite a bit.

All these pay per sign ups shave.. This is how they pay you $35 a trial sign up.. ALL OF THEM.. Have you ever seen the inside of some these sites? What a joke..
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12-03-2002, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Lenny2
From their front page

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Look no further! Advertise trial signups on our seven outstanding niche sites and make cash like the old days! We are paying $30 for each trial signup, no exceptions! With over 5 years experience, we know how to convert your traffic into signups! Attracting fresh tours that update on a regular basis ensure the best conversion ratios possible!

Maybe they should change that no exceptions part?

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12-03-2002, 07:51 AM

From their terms page

Our files will prevail in determining amount of valid hits, signups, and E-mail subscribers.

Ummmmm, which one of your files will prevail?

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12-03-2002, 08:03 AM

never mind
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12-03-2002, 08:05 AM

WOW how did you found out?

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12-03-2002, 08:06 AM

Funny.

..and I'm off.
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12-03-2002, 08:08 AM

wow, thats an eye opener

from the user / pass looks like a custom hack done for someone, I wonder if they have any more planned

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12-03-2002, 08:08 AM

You can't see it in the screenshot, but the column on the far right (yep/nope) is actually labelled "Shave".

I wonder what's really going on here.

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12-03-2002, 08:10 AM

Yeah better could make a screenshot of that as well, before dollars4all find out

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12-03-2002, 08:11 AM

That's funny but true. There are some sites that don't shave but most of the big pay per sign ups do.

My advice: find a site that doesn't shave and send your traffic there.

One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.
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12-03-2002, 08:11 AM

What amamzes me is thety are stupid enough to put that info on the net. Did they not think someone has the brains to hack into it??

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12-03-2002, 08:14 AM

You can't see it in the screenshot, but the column on the far right (yep/nope) is actually labelled "Shave".

I wonder what's really going on here.

Sounds like they can look at a glance and see whether a webmaster is getting credit on the rebills or not by the "Yep, this one was shaved", "Nope, this one wasn't shaved".

And lets call it what it is... Theft!

If you had 100 sales you would have been "shaved" $1770 if you promoted the teen site. Pretty serious if you ask me.
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12-03-2002, 08:15 AM

Hm, I hate to say it but this looks kind of real.

Check out ...

Whoa! Looks like it just got shut down.

Oh, well, http://www.dollars4all.com/administration was full of other things like "build_pwd_database.php" and "admin.php", etc. Also, a bunch of data dirs. It looked like a real administrative script collection.

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12-03-2002, 08:15 AM

I guess we won't see a reply from dollars4all in this thread

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12-03-2002, 08:17 AM

Yep it's closed now hahaha

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12-03-2002, 08:17 AM

A tat too late I'm afraid though

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12-03-2002, 08:19 AM

Sure we'll see a reply. Someone is going to have to come in here and tell us how it was all faked by some hacker/ex employee. Doesn't matter, though, even if it isn't true, I'd day their sunk. At least with anyone who logged in before it got shut down.

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12-03-2002, 08:20 AM

Holy Moly never seen anyone caught redhanded like that before.

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12-03-2002, 08:21 AM

I wonder if we'll still get the usual rally of sponsors claiming that shaving doesn't exist and that we are just being paranoid or that maybe it's our traffic, or our banners are stale, or we need to improve our sales abilities,etc.. lol
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12-03-2002, 08:24 AM

Almost every sponsor shaves....prolly not as much as these guys tho.
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12-03-2002, 08:24 AM

Why is this theft allowed but someone stealing a chocolate bar from a 711 would get in more trouble? I don't understand.

Is there no place to report such shady business?

of course it is possible some ex-employee planted that page and leaked the login/password. Its impossible to tell.

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12-03-2002, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by RockDaddy
I wonder if we'll still get the usual rally of sponsors claiming that shaving doesn't exist and that we are just being paranoid or that maybe it's our traffic, or our banners are stale, or we need to improve our sales abilities,etc.. lol

Well it is now well known that "shaving" does happen, however, it is unfair to accuse all programs of shaving.

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12-03-2002, 08:27 AM

Am I the only one who noticed that that file contained..uh maybe I am.

Nevermind.

Hee hee, got work to do.

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12-03-2002, 08:29 AM

I expected that someone would close that account and a friend uploaded it on a freehost server:-)

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12-03-2002, 08:29 AM

They are based out of the netherlands so you probably have no legal jurisdiction there. One more thing to take into consideration when promoting a sponsor now I guess.

Although, I've been doing this since '96 and this is the first "documented" evidence I've ever seen. I'm sure it will be a very long time before you ever see it again. Sadly.
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