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My prediction for "Business OF Pleasure" tonight on MSNBC

07-15-2009, 01:38 PM

It should be interesting to see that "Business of Pleasure" thing on CNBC tonight. I bet when they started that show they were looking for a ratings-boosting-cock-swagger piece about rich pornographers and big-tittied pornstars, but after they researched the story for a bit they found the biz was headed to hell in a handbasket even faster than other sectors. That's when they knew they had a real story.

They probably saw was a bunch of scared people and a lot of phoney optimism, while everyone wondering where the next dollar will come from or looking are to exit the biz. The money has to come in from somewhere and as internet porno people (the current #1 form of distribution) we are at the top of the food chain. If the money is no longer trickling in from the top...where is it going to trickle too? This effects everyone, from production, talent, shooters, manufacturers, and most anyone who is heavily levaraged in the adult business - straight down the line!

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07-15-2009, 01:40 PM

Should be interesting.

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07-15-2009, 01:42 PM

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07-15-2009, 01:43 PM

Heh, I don't agree with ya on what it will be about Jay ....

Pink Visual and the TopBucks crew were very happy to be part of this.

The CNBC crew came out to our offices and spent some time here, very cool to be featured in this. I think you will be pleasantly surprised ... at least I hope. : )

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07-15-2009, 01:45 PM

That's funny. I just started this same thread, with the same sentiment.

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07-15-2009, 01:45 PM

I will be on it speaking Live from a helicopter flying above LA singing michael jackson thriller and then speaking about how small the porn biz really is from a helicopter in downtown LA..

should be interesting... I will throw in a couple Plugs for XXX JAY and OC Cash ;- )

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07-15-2009, 01:46 PM

it will be fucking depressing and every time they throw out that bogus 13 billion dollar number based on nothing. I just roll my eyes.
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07-15-2009, 01:46 PM

just set my dvr to record it incase i forget to watch.. thanks for the heads up

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07-15-2009, 01:46 PM

i'd wager it will be the same as all the other porn *documentaries*

as much risque footage as possible, a brief bit about technology, a porn scape goat scum bag will be interviewed and lambasted and they will follow around a ponr star that tries to act normal while they ask her what her parents think and do the neighbors know and what will you tell your kids you do when they grow up

and that's about it.

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07-15-2009, 01:53 PM

Hey Jay. Is business that bad for you? The majority of posts I read from you give me the impression you are going out of business.
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07-15-2009, 02:02 PM

From my interview with them to the articles about the show tonight:
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=...l1dKZEYgshIpgM

It seems like they are getting a pretty realistic view of the porn industry and the state as it is and what you said, that a lot of the negative things we've done to ourselves. Now, of course, I think they are going to tie that in with some in your face gratuitious sex stuff to boost their own ratings.

I'll record it tonight, but I don't want to see me (if they used me, who knows) live.

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07-15-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Shap

Hey Jay. Is business that bad for you? The majority of posts I read from you give me the impression you are going out of business.

Nah, we are OK. Working harder for less, like everyone else, but people have it much worse than me.

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07-15-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by xxxjay

Nah, we are OK. Working harder for less, like everyone else, but people have it much worse than me.

I figured. You are a smart guy and I know it's really frustrating to have to work harder and spend more for less.

On the bright side in many cases the profit margins we made in the past were pretty insane and unheard of. It was bound to happen at some point.
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07-15-2009, 02:07 PM

I have this feeling that they will paint it like a lot of people do and try to show us as an industry that takes advantage of people then it will move on to how the industry is in a downturn because of all the free porn out there. I think it is going to end up somehow making it look like there is so much free porn there is no way for your kids to avoid it so we are corrupting them.

When it is all said and done it will be a nice ad for the big tube sites.
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07-15-2009, 02:12 PM

Shrug some of the highlights on http://www.cnbc.com/id/29960781/ look reasonable.

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07-15-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Heh, I don't agree with ya on what it will be about Jay ....

Pink Visual and the TopBucks crew were very happy to be part of this.

The CNBC crew came out to our offices and spent some time here, very cool to be featured in this. I think you will be pleasantly surprised ... at least I hope. : )

A friend was interviewed by the press for TV. The way they edited it, it looked like he was saying something totally different.
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07-15-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Heh, I don't agree with ya on what it will be about Jay ....

Pink Visual and the TopBucks crew were very happy to be part of this.

The CNBC crew came out to our offices and spent some time here, very cool to be featured in this. I think you will be pleasantly surprised ... at least I hope. : )

Like Tony404 said...watch out for the edit or you guys may look full of "phony optimism"

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07-15-2009, 02:23 PM

There are so many facets to this industry but most tv spots about it stick to general standard ideas about porn, so it will be interesting to see what they do.

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07-15-2009, 02:36 PM

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07-15-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by burntfilm

There are so many facets to this industry but most tv spots about it stick to general standard ideas about porn, so it will be interesting to see what they do.

My folks live just outside of Providence, RI

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07-15-2009, 02:45 PM

Should be a good show for sure. Theres no signs of any slowdown over here at DTI Cash. Maybe the Japanese arent affected as much when it comes to $$

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07-15-2009, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by xxxjay

My folks live just outside of Providence, RI

Nice, Providence is a pretty ok place to be, great restaurants, clean city and about ten decent strip clubs within 5 miles from downtown.

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07-15-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Heh, I don't agree with ya on what it will be about Jay ....

Pink Visual and the TopBucks crew were very happy to be part of this.

The CNBC crew came out to our offices and spent some time here, very cool to be featured in this. I think you will be pleasantly surprised ... at least I hope. : )

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07-15-2009, 05:45 PM

so far it looks really good and isn't making us look bad.. i missed the first 25 mins but thankfully i have it on my dvr.

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07-15-2009, 05:58 PM

I have to say that was a pretty good show. I'm impressed.
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07-15-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by Shap

Hey Jay. Is business that bad for you? The majority of posts I read from you give me the impression you are going out of business.

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07-15-2009, 06:11 PM

I have to say... For a one man show I have made a lot of money with little to no investment except for my time. To this day it is the same but no where near the insane level of income for almost nothing. Now I actually have to do work.
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07-15-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

I have to say... For a one man show I have made a lot of money with little to no investment except for my time. To this day it is the same but no where near the insane level of income for almost nothing. Now I actually have to do work.

I feel the same way.

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07-15-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by xxxjay

I feel the same way.

I think we all do lol. Especially guys like us that have been around forever
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07-15-2009, 06:38 PM

i fell asleep watching .. snooze
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07-15-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Shap

Hey Jay. Is business that bad for you? The majority of posts I read from you give me the impression you are going out of business.

You know what they say the bigger you are the harder you fall so I'm sure he has reason to be a bit more pissed off than some of us.

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07-15-2009, 06:49 PM

I just fucking love how nbc is selling a dvd of the show with "hidden extras"
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07-15-2009, 07:18 PM

it comes on at 10 here in CALI.

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07-15-2009, 07:26 PM

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it comes on at 10 here in CALI.

It actually showed at 7PM PST...I caught the last 15 minutes. I saw Alli from Topbucks and a bunch of other people I know. I'm going to watch the first part at 10.

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07-15-2009, 10:04 PM

It was easily the most positive piece about porn I've ever seen on TV. Would have been nice to see more internet companies featured though.
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07-15-2009, 10:07 PM

any show with alli from topbucks in it is worth watching

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07-15-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by SleazyDream

any show with alli from topbucks in it is worth watching

I thought Alli's interview was one of the better ones on it.

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07-15-2009, 10:15 PM

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07-16-2009, 03:45 AM

Sadly we did not get it over here. Sounds like a good show.

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07-16-2009, 07:10 AM

I thought it was pretty interesting... caught a couple cameos from GFY regs..

Ama Joe chatting with Max, Liz demonstrating the real touch...

Got it recorded to watch again later, but didn't catch anything I wasn't happy with about the special besides once again giving away tube names to the 3 people that didn't already know them.

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07-16-2009, 07:18 AM

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I watched the CNBC special and was oddly surprised. Partially by the lack of any any honest verification of what was presented as fact, but mostly by the fact that it was biased…..Towards us.

They trotted out the old horse shit numbers, 13 billion dollars a year, blah blah blah. A porn made in Porn Valley every thirty six seconds, and something like 38,000 dollars a second being spent on internet porn. then they g on to talk about how porners have fallen on hard times blaming it mainly on “tube sites” and” filesharing”. Steve Hirsch remarks about the piracy issue as though it is the responsibility of someone other than him and his company to police the internet for people posting his content.

They also trotted out the usual suspects, Wicked, Digital Playground and Vivid and Jesse Jane. Who all pretty much stuck to the script.

they overlaying tone was that of women in the industry and as such you would have thought that Samantha Lewis runs Digital Playground, Joy King runs Wicked and there are few if any men left in power in porn. No mention at all of Ali Joone or Steve Orenstein. The only company with no female representation was Vivid., they let Steve Hirsch do the talking there.

They did a segment with Jesse Jane “back home” in Oklahoma where they come to the errant conclusion that top girls in the biz make 30K a month. That’s a very wrong fact, top girls in porn can make that in a week feature dancin, not counting all the other avenues for making money.

The surprises were a pretty kid glove treatment of Max Hardcore and his, at the time, upcoming trip to Club Fed and the common sense approach Joy King used in her lengthy segment. Joy is good.

The truth for all to see moment came from Steve hirsch, who said that porn has been around since the days of cavemen and it isn’t going anywhere.

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07-16-2009, 08:48 AM

I wonder how much traffic has spiked to all the sites they mentioned.
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07-16-2009, 09:56 AM

all 5 tube sites which were mentioned got a boost of traffic yesterday (if you check alexa)
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07-16-2009, 11:07 AM

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all 5 tube sites which were mentioned got a boost of traffic yesterday (if you check alexa)

Yeah I figured...In the beginning they were not directly mentioning anything, which I thought was good. Then the next thing I know all 5 pop up on the screen...

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07-16-2009, 11:13 AM

Who has time to watch TV? If you have time for that shit, you could be working instead.
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07-16-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by fuzebox

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More like "Official" industry stats don't exist. lol

"Tightly guarded"? Nothing in our business is "guarded" (it used to be until a few years ago)

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07-16-2009, 11:26 AM

For those that missed it or want to watch it again, it's on hulu.

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