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Old 07-12-2009, 08:39 AM   #1
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To all the retards who still believe in Obama and global warming shit

Soon you will have to buy carbon credit for every pictures and videos you host, if 20 mg of carbon emission are generated reading an article online, how much do you think is generated when someone jerks off for a couple of minutes???????

What's next? I really feel sorry for all of you who still believe in this carbon shit and global warming bullshit.

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Whatever crazy taxes or politics, wrong or not, doesn't change the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
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the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
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I would put it more on Gore for pushing the agenda. Unfortunately inventing the internet wasn't a big enough achievement for this tool.
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There is scientific consensus. Do you want me to post all their peer-reviewed papers?
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Whatever crazy taxes or politics, wrong or not, doesn't change the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
LMAO actually the earth has been COOLING. The UN's best case predictions are not even close to how COOL the earth is RIGHT NOW. So how can you believe anything these globalist scientists have to say?

Yes its Glenn Beck and he is a nut job but the guy he is interviewing is from the EPA and all their data points to GLOBAL COOLING

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Its amazing how people have been brainwashed into believing this global warming crap. Sheep going to slaughter, and don't know it.
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There is no evidence to prove the earth is warming, there is evidence to prove the earth is cooling. It is so damning that the Obama administration removed it.
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LMAO actually the earth has been COOLING. The UN's best case predictions are not even close to how COOL the earth is RIGHT NOW. So how can you believe anything these globalist scientists have to say?

Yes its Glenn Beck and he is a nut job but the guy he is interviewing is from the EPA and all their data points to GLOBAL COOLING
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif
The earth has been cooling??

A climate period is 30 years, and you know as well as me, that it vary. But the average trend is warming.
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There is scientific consensus. Do you want me to post all their peer-reviewed papers?
lol, you may want to listen to this(http://www.viddler.com/explore/ceivideo/videos/47/), before you make a fool of yourself. Global warming is the next big scam, to cash money in from the idiot lower classes.
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lol, you may want to listen to this(http://www.viddler.com/explore/ceivideo/videos/47/), before you make a fool of yourself. Global warming is the next big scam, to cash money in from the idiot lower classes.
You should listen to the real climate scientists. Not amateurs like Monckton.
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Stick to the peer-reviewed science. Not junk science.
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The main point of contention is that 99% of the CO2 emissions are natural! Ie Volcanoes and shit look it up...
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The earth has been cooling??

A climate period is 30 years, and you know as well as me, that it vary. But the average trend is warming.
So what were "experts" saying about the climate 30 years ago

From the 1970s

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?We have about five more years at the outside to do something.?
? Kenneth Watt, ecologist

?Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.?
? George Wald, Harvard Biologist

?We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.?
? Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

?Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.?
? New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

?Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.?
? Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

?By?[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.?
? Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

?It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.?
? Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

?Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions?.By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.?
? Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

?Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support?the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution?by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half?.?
? Life Magazine, January 1970

?At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it?s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.?
? Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
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Are you people insane? The earth is WARMING UP. Who says? NASA and NOAA just to name a couple. Cooling? COOLING? WTF? Have you not seen any videos of the ice metling away in the polar regions?
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So what were "experts" saying about the climate 30 years ago

From the 1970s
Out of context. That was just some speculations in popular press back then based on a small amount of scientists. There has never been scientific consensus about global cooling.
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You should listen to the real climate scientists. Not amateurs like Monckton.
No, I shouldn't. I should realize we are living in a cancer epidimic, that men's ability to father children is failing, and think of fifty other actual problems that are 'here' now, but didn't get the attention of corporate politics/media.

Then I would realize that the 'global warming' peddlers don't give a damn about the environment, or the betterment of the human condition, but are simply out to raise taxes.
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There is scientific consensus.
There once was scientific consensus that the world was flat...

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Do you want me to post all their peer-reviewed papers?
do you want me to post the "Global warming" petition signed by 31000 scientists?
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

Want me to post some books about the medieval warm period and the little ice age?

Want me to post some articles about scientists that accidentally replaced their data for the month of october with data from the month of september and used those numbers to "prove" that it was "exceptionally hot" in the month of october?

Want me to post some articles about how the activity of the sun affects the weather on earth?

Want me to post some articles about Greenland... and why it's called GREENland?

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No, I shouldn't. I should realize we are living in a cancer epidimic, that men's ability to father children is failing, and think of fifty other actual problems that are 'here' now, but didn't get the attention of corporate politics/media.

Then I would realize that the 'global warming' peddlers don't give a damn about the environment, or the betterment of the human condition, but are simply out to raise taxes.
Curing cancer and other problems should be dealt with of course. But does that change the state of climate?
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I think Global Warming probably exists. It's been getting warmer in Toronto. So warm, I was always walking around in only a shirt in the winter-time.
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Curing cancer and other problems should be dealt with of course. But does that change the state of climate?
You should stick to making tasty breakfast pastries.
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I think Global Warming probably exists. It's been getting warmer in Toronto.
There's no doubt about the fact that the climate is changing... Climate has changed since the beginning of the earth and will continue to change... It's a normal process...
There's however no reason to believe that human activity has caused or is causing the kind of climatic changes described by Al gore, obama etc etc
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True. And??

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Do you want me to post their titles and non-related scientific papers?



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Want me to post some books about the medieval warm period and the little ice age?
I prefer papers than books. But I know what you mean. However, the question is not about natural variations, but how much the climate differ from the expected variations.

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Want me to post some articles about scientists that accidentally replaced their data for the month of october with data from the month of september and used those numbers to "prove" that it was "exceptionally hot" in the month of october?
Minor mistakes can happen, but that doesn't change the facts. They never used this to prove anything, because they corrected it.

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Sun affects weather, yes. So do CO2.

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Want me to post some articles about Greenland... and why it's called GREENland?
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that's mostly just based on the dependency on coal for electricity. problem fixed if they are switched to nuclear, solar, wind or hydro.
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There's however no reason to believe that human activity has caused or is causing the kind of climatic changes described by Al gore, obama etc etc
I agree to that. Stick to the real scientist. And at the same time; do not listen to the think-tanks and other so-called "experts" with their denial blogs and junk pages, who never submitted any approved peer-reviewed paper about climate.
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Curing cancer and other problems should be dealt with of course. But does that change the state of climate?
No, I will however have to offset these taxes by dumping the church tax, I'm downloading the formula now, so they can delist me
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No, I will however have to offset these taxes by dumping the church tax, I'm downloading the formula now, so they can delist me
Good idea. I think the climate is more important than church.
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Whatever crazy taxes or politics, wrong or not, doesn't change the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
despite the fact that the earths temperature follows the suns activity better than it does mankind's increased use of fossil fuels over the last 100+ years? or that the oceans are not warming?

http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity+Diminishes+Researchers+Predict+Anot her+Ice+Age/article10630.htm

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Are you people insane? The earth is WARMING UP. Who says? NASA and NOAA just to name a couple. Cooling? COOLING? WTF? Have you not seen any videos of the ice metling away in the polar regions?
whats funny about this is that the people that took these videos often don't tell you when they were taken - its a normal process that in the summer of those regions that temps warm up and ice falls off - then in winter, it cools back down and ices up. Its all about context, like the picture of the polar bear on the tiny piece of ice.
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despite the fact that the earths temperature follows the suns activity better than it does mankind's increased use of fossil fuels over the last 100+ years? or that the oceans are not warming?
Theories like Henrik Svensmarks is interesting, but his theory has been disapproved. For the last 30 years the correlation is not there:
http://www.mps.mpg.de/images/projekt...te/climate.gif

The oceans have been cooling for a few years, but just like the land-air, it varies, and the climate trend is warming.
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whats funny about this is that the people that took these videos often don't tell you when they were taken - its a normal process that in the summer of those regions that temps warm up and ice falls off - then in winter, it cools back down and ices up. Its all about context, like the picture of the polar bear on the tiny piece of ice.
Yeah?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph....1900-2007.jpg

How do you explain this?
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LMAO actually the earth has been COOLING. The UN's best case predictions are not even close to how COOL the earth is RIGHT NOW. So how can you believe anything these globalist scientists have to say?

Yes its Glenn Beck and he is a nut job but the guy he is interviewing is from the EPA and all their data points to GLOBAL COOLING

Yes like Glenn Beck would never fabricate shit that the ignorant masses that watch his crap show will believe. You know the Church shows have "scientists" that can "prove" man and dinosaurs lived together 6000 years ago.

man I need to go through these threads and put every idiot neo-con supporter or global warming denier on ignore so I no longer have to be bothered by the stupidity. What's next denying the Holocaust?
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how do you explain this?

http://www.c3headlines.com/2009/04/n...ove-norma.html

how very typical - cry that the arctic ice is melting - then conveniently leave out that the antarctic ice is expanding.
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The only constant we can say for sure is the neverending argument over global warming.






P.S. - thankfully we've concluded the earth is still flat...and the moon is made of cheese.
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how do you explain this?

http://www.c3headlines.com/2009/04/n...ove-norma.html

how very typical - cry that the arctic ice is melting - then conveniently leave out that the antarctic ice is expanding.
Got a REAL source?

you linkr

Read here about Antarctic ice. Unfortunately, for global warming scientists and alarmists, the real evidence that the South Pole is not melting just continues to grow and refutes their predictions.

yes totally professional and UNBIASED news reporting. Sorry as soon as I see bais code words I IGNORE everything someone has said. So your source=FAIL. Try again or you like to fuck goats.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:49 AM   #41
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how do you explain this?

how very typical - cry that the arctic ice is melting - then conveniently leave out that the antarctic ice is expanding.
First you say it is "summer melting" in Arctic (which is a lie you have been told from the movie Great Global Swindle) and now you complain about crying about it, when told the truth?
The average sea ice in Antarctic has been stable, same with polar icecap, but that does not change the fact (as predicted) that the northern regions and Western Antarctic is melting. If more ice in north melt, and it will, it will force more warmth to Greenland and accelerating melt of the ice cap. That is dangerous, and same with Western Antarctic. The trend is there, so why deny it?

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Old 07-12-2009, 10:53 AM   #42
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Whatever crazy taxes or politics, wrong or not, doesn't change the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
Many scientists disagree. Many believe we are actually COOLING right now.
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Old 07-12-2009, 11:02 AM   #43
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Many scientists disagree. Many believe we are actually COOLING right now.
"right now"... how 'many' serious scientist deny global warming for the past climate period (30 years) and the past 150 years? The matter is not what is observations within some few years of time, but what happens over longer periods.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:21 PM   #44
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The main point of contention is that 99% of the CO2 emissions are natural! Ie Volcanoes and shit look it up...
Christ !!!! moving out of North America ... Way too many VOLCANOES and shit ....

earthtrends.wri.org/pdf_library/data_tables/cli3_2005.pdf
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:05 PM   #45
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LMAO actually the earth has been COOLING. The UN's best case predictions are not even close to how COOL the earth is RIGHT NOW. So how can you believe anything these globalist scientists have to say?

Yes its Glenn Beck and he is a nut job but the guy he is interviewing is from the EPA and all their data points to GLOBAL COOLING

I feel sorry for anyone who links to Beck. Continue thinking global warming doesnt exist and that the earth is 7000 yr old
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Whatever crazy taxes or politics, wrong or not, doesn't change the scientific fact that global warming is happening and CO2 is causing it.
What caused all the previous global warming periodes the earth had thousands of years ago?
What causes the same global warming going on on Mars right now?
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Soon you will have to buy carbon credit for every pictures and videos you host, if 20 mg of carbon emission are generated reading an article online, how much do you think is generated when someone jerks off for a couple of minutes???????

What's next? I really feel sorry for all of you who still believe in this carbon shit and global warming bullshit.

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Believe in global warming or not, if they tax it we will all be effected including you
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global warming should never have been made a political issue really. Political opinions are stupid and pointless. Oh yes, your opinion is right, your way of thinking is the only way, blah blah. Don't you morons realize that no one idea or ideal is correct? That it takes the coming to togther of many different opinions to forum something that is resonable and works for most people? Nah, I didn't think so. Stop fighting each other on every fucking issue and try to come to some kind of compromised resolution instead of letting your ego and need to be right get in the way of moving forward at all....
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Loser republicans cry endlessly like little girls.

But they are feeble and can't accomplish a thing.

Booo hooo hoooo - cry all you want, wingnuts. Nobody cares anymore. You had your chance to govern, and all you proved was you can't get anything done.

Now you are reduced to endless crying - and nobody with power gives a shit - you can't even be effective little girls.
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