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iBill · 07-08-2009, 10:28 PM

Please have a look at xbiz site.

Thanks

SilentKnight · 07-08-2009, 10:31 PM

Iron Fist · 07-08-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBill

Please have a look at xbiz site.

Thanks

See, i'm a lazy SOB... so no thanks.

sicone · 07-08-2009, 10:41 PM

iBill has made lots of headlines, just search GFY

Shoplifter · 07-08-2009, 10:52 PM

This is the most awesome practical joke ever.

WiredGuy · 07-08-2009, 10:57 PM

I can appreciate the fact your trying to make a billing company out of an old name, but honestly, the name ibill will always be a tarnished name in this industry. best of luck though.
WG

SBJ · 07-08-2009, 11:03 PM

you should change your name to "I bill but don't pay"

lazycash · 07-08-2009, 11:04 PM

Trying to use the old name with negative goodwill is one of the dumbest marketing ploys I've ever seen.

CYF · 07-08-2009, 11:05 PM

Did you guys pay everyone back?

tony286 · 07-08-2009, 11:18 PM

man to use that name you must think we are a very stupid industry. lol

F-U-Jimmy · 07-08-2009, 11:19 PM

Fuck off Iballs

F-U-Jimmy · 07-08-2009, 11:26 PM

?Look, there?s a history to the name and a lot of people remember the name,? he said. ?Out of every 20 people I talk to about our services, only one will give me a hard time over what transpired with the old iBill.?

?At one point, there was so much hate mail, but over time I?ve noticed a huge tone-down. It?s getting a lot less negative.? ( seems like he needs some more mail ?)

On promoting the new iBill, Brown said the company hasn?t really done any advertising, with the exception of message-board promotions, but he?s open to meeting with webmasters at the adult trade shows ? with one caveat.

?If we get a booth, I might have to bring a bulletproof vest,? he said. ( might ?)

F-U-Jimmy · 07-08-2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYF

Did you guys pay everyone back?

Can pigs fly ?

CYF · 07-08-2009, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy

Can pigs fly ?

bobby666 · 07-08-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ

you should change your name to "I bill but don't pay"

Dirty Dane · 07-09-2009, 12:02 AM

I sell win95

Jack Sparrow · 07-09-2009, 12:05 AM

I really dont understand a new company would buy this, i mean.
Google for 2 minutes and you know your better of starting from scratch, even IF we think they are really new.

tigermtb · 07-09-2009, 12:40 AM

Not rebranding is a terrible decision.

Pretty sure iBill still owes me money, too.

Doubtful we'll do business with them.

Paul Markham · 07-09-2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

Trying to use the old name with negative goodwill is one of the dumbest marketing ploys I've ever seen.

Forget the hate and think about it calmly.

When I look at the money held by CCBILL or Epoch every month I think to myself. Do I want that money held by people I don't trust totally?

Anyone willing to risk their money (AND affiliate) with a company run by people capable of making such a big mistake do not warrant my trust.

Jon Oso · 07-09-2009, 01:04 AM

I am so glad I joined this forum and have been reading these threads.

I would be devastated to join the adult community, and if I was successful in sales and whatnot be completely fucked over by the company that's supposed to be sending me my money. I think it would completely soil me on the entire industry.

I would probably put a bullet through the head of everyone that was involved and their families.

If I was that company, I wouldn't have the balls to EVER show my face again, much less have the brass to start the company up again with the bullshit "It wasn't me" excuse.

Nobody has started a class action lawsuit yet?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-09-2009, 01:08 AM

Dear Jonas Brown/iBill,

How about instead, you simply pay me the $30,000+ worth of sales that I made using your billing system.

If you do, I won't even hold you accountable for the lost rebills and other major costs that I incurred because of iBill's lies and incompetence.

If that is asking to much, then at least have the decency to explain who actually took the money I earned (people paid for my product and I delivered it, even though iBill screwed me over), and why they have any right not to pay me the money which they were only the processor for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there appears to me to have been some major breach of fiduciary responsibility and somebody should be held accountable.

In Laymen's terms, I spent money to build and promote my websites - many people paid money to join my sites, and iBill collected the money on my behalf, and was supposed to forward me the balance after subtracting their fees. Somebody kept the money my Members intended to pay to me, since I paid lots of money, and invested lots of my time, to create and promote the content which they downloaded and enjoyed.

I delivered the product which my Members (customers) paid for, but somebody kept more than just the fees - in my view, they stole my money.

Jonas Brown, before anyone should trust you or iBill, I think that you/iBill should explain where my money is, and the money of many other webmasters is, whom were ripped off the same way I was.

Your proposal as stated comes off as just another totally self-serving scam and con job, like the original promissory notes.

If you want to do some good, and get people back on your side, then either sue the bastards that ripped us off and get our money back, or tell us who to sue and how to sue the people that took our hard earned money.

Whenever I hear the names Daniel Staton, Steve Markley or Gary Spaniak Jr, all I hear is liar, scammer, thief and other less civil words.

Add Marc Bell of the Bell/Staton Group (later PMGI, Penthouse, and AFF / Adult Friend Finder to that list).

ADG

DWB · 07-09-2009, 01:21 AM

OMFG...... they are really back?

07-08-2009, 10:28 PM	#1
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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Dear Jonas Brown/iBill, How about instead, you simply pay me the $30,000+ worth of sales that I made using your billing system. If you do, I won't even hold you accountable for the lost rebills and other major costs that I incurred because of iBill's lies and incompetence. If that is asking to much, then at least have the decency to explain who actually took the money I earned (people paid for my product and I delivered it, even though iBill screwed me over), and why they have any right not to pay me the money which they were only the processor for. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there appears to me to have been some major breach of fiduciary responsibility and somebody should be held accountable. In Laymen's terms, I spent money to build and promote my websites - many people paid money to join my sites, and iBill collected the money on my behalf, and was supposed to forward me the balance after subtracting their fees. Somebody kept the money my Members intended to pay to me, since I paid lots of money, and invested lots of my time, to create and promote the content which they downloaded and enjoyed. I delivered the product which my Members (customers) paid for, but somebody kept more than just the fees - in my view, they stole my money. Jonas Brown, before anyone should trust you or iBill, I think that you/iBill should explain where my money is, and the money of many other webmasters is, whom were ripped off the same way I was. Your proposal as stated comes off as just another totally self-serving scam and con job, like the original promissory notes. If you want to do some good, and get people back on your side, then either sue the bastards that ripped us off and get our money back, or tell us who to sue and how to sue the people that took our hard earned money. Whenever I hear the names Daniel Staton, Steve Markley or Gary Spaniak Jr, all I hear is liar, scammer, thief and other less civil words. Add Marc Bell of the Bell/Staton Group (later PMGI, Penthouse, and AFF / Adult Friend Finder to that list). ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

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