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Pleasurepays 07-13-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058542)
Its called bad economy.

NICE!!!!!

You will be able to play the "bad economy" card for a couple years.

I guess if that's a valid excuse for not meeting your financial obligations to people or paying your bills... webmasters can expect to get fucked over whenever you decide its convenient to you. After all... whats a promise to pay? Just words.

commonsense 07-13-2009 09:54 AM

Wait, is this web arm of Metro distribution? Do they still own all those adult stores on the East Coast? They did have a huge catalog of DVD titles.


A few years ago (and might still be today) Metro was such a bad pay that just about EVERYONE had them on C.O.D. If you gave them terms you'd get burned. :2 cents:

BestXXXPorn 07-13-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058097)
Very interesting.
JFK
I have supported you for so many years and never missed a payment. Your last invoice will be paid as soon as i can.
Funny we only popular when we are dishing out CASH. Business is about supporting each other in good time and hard time but unfortunately sponsors like us we only count as numbers.

I'm not understanding why you would post that you can't currently pay an affiliate from months back but you would like additional affiliates to sign up with your programs... that you can't currently pay?

JamesK 07-13-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16058526)
Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.

Wow, that's seriously fucked up.

commonsense 07-13-2009 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn (Post 16058609)
I'm not understanding why you would post that you can't currently pay an affiliate from months back but you would like additional affiliates to sign up with your programs... that you can't currently pay?

JFK isn't an affiliate. Sounds like Ben (Metro) owes money from some trade show branding/sponsorship stuff.

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16058526)
Years ago, i had agreed to work with Claudia. they were going to send a bunch of computers since they ran linux software on all their chat computers and it was easier for them to just set them up and ship them.

Anyway... long story short, i had built a new studio... putting a couple hundred thousand dollars into it, relocating staff to a new city etc etc etc and had massive overhead... and had a deal with Claudia to dedicate it to her. it was very clear that i had some major expenses and had timed everything to start working with her on a specific date which we all agreed to time and time again.

That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working.

Still i would call him and he took it a step further to telling me they had been sent for sure, telling me he would icq the tracking numbers etc.... THAT fucking continued for a few weeks or more. I mean literally the guy would say they had ALREADY been sent and then come up with an excuse two days later and then say AGAIN they had ALREADY been sent again... come up with an excuse etc etc ... it went on again for a month like that. So imagine... now, i'm out close to 100k when i could have put the girls live elsewhere.

REMEMBER Ben? Do you remember spamming your ICQ list and you asking me to vote for you on ratethewebmaster.com or whatever the fuck that netpond abortion was and me telling you that you were undoubtedly one of the biggest fucking idiots and unreliable and disingenuous people in this biz? Do you remember your shock and surprise? then i refresh your memory about who i am and suddenly out comes 100 excuses as to why nothing is your fault?

You are full of shit. You're an used car salesman who does little more than just tell people what they want to hear and you take ZERO responsibility for anything that comes out of your fucking mouth.

Your irresponsibility and outright lies cost me a shitload of money.

JFK story sounds quite familiar to me.

Don't get me started on what a total fucking idiot your brother is.

LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.

commonsense 07-13-2009 10:15 AM

2:1 odds there's already an email from the thread starter to have this trainwreck deleted

Machete_ 07-13-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058542)
Its called bad economy.

if it was only bad economy, you would have told him the truth

JFK 07-13-2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 16058637)
JFK isn't an affiliate. Sounds like Ben (Metro) owes money from some trade show branding/sponsorship stuff.

You are correct,the money's outstanding are for the branding of event pictures in February.

Pleasurepays 07-13-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058695)
LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.

yeah... obviously i'm just making it up. i mean... why wouldn't i fabricate a story about you constantly lying to me when you clearly have nothing to do with anything?

... and i've never done it publically before... so it all makes even more sense that i would randomly make something up like this that cost me upwards of 100k, years later.

You are 100% full of shit and you are a liar. You say what people want to hear. You are a salesperson and that's what you do. funny how JFK's story sounds EXACTLY like my only experience with you. You fucking idiots cost me a lot of money.

For whatever reason, you were the one everyone told me to talk to about FedEx sending the computers out. I had MANY MANY MANY conversations with YOU and you had no problems at all lying every time you were asked about it. I've only ever spoke to 4 people at Interclimax. Your 1/2 retarded brother who was fired faster than he was hired. Werner and Claudia.... and YOU. So fuck you. And my only conversation with your brother was to tell him that he's a fucking moron.



A perfect example of where your head is at is this thread. exactly what i am saying and JFK is saying. you blame the economy... you have all kinds of excuses and at the same time you want people to take you at your word and you don't see the contradiction there.

How about this? if you say you're going to do something...do it. If you say "I'm going to mail you a check tomorrow" ... .you wake up tomorrow, write a check and put it in the mail?

Pleasurepays 07-13-2009 11:35 AM

XXX ‎(2:26 PM):
LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.


LOL what a load of crap
he dealt with me all the time

XXX ‎(2:27 PM):
i remember him dealing with you

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
and i had the same issue with the computer

YYY ‎(2:28 PM):
i just need to vent a little about this. i don't post a whole lot these days... but this guy really pisses me off. i didn't realize i was still so upset about this. i lost a lot of money fucking with those people. he's such a fucking liar, its unreal.

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16059086)
XXX ‎(2:26 PM):
LOL
I'm never rude but I will make an exception for you.
I'm not shocked or surprised your fucking idiot. I don't even know who you are or what the hell you on about. At the previous company never ever dealt with studio.


LOL what a load of crap
he dealt with me all the time

XXX ‎(2:27 PM):
i remember him dealing with you

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
and i had the same issue with the computer

YYY ‎(2:28 PM):
i just need to vent a little about this. i don't post a whole lot these days... but this guy really pisses me off. i didn't realize i was still so upset about this. i lost a lot of money fucking with those people. he's such a fucking liar, its unreal.

XXX ‎(2:28 PM):
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dude what ever you taking let me have some.
On your last post your mentioned
-----That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working. -----

On this post you mention
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me.

Pleasurepays 07-13-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16059109)
Dude what ever you taking let me have some.
On your last post your mentioned
-----That day came and went... still waiting on computers. i would call and ask Ben where they were. "oh,, they are going out first thing in the morning". this went on for like a month. literally a month. Me begging them all every couple of days and telling them that it was costing me like $50,000 in that month to pay all over head with no one working. -----

On this post you mention
it took them almost 2 months to send them to me.

its someone else that contacted me on ICQ a few minutes ago... relating the EXACT same experience.... WITH YOU.

"XXX" is not me dumbass.

maybe we'll start a new "Integrity of Ben" thread everyday as i sort through old e-mails and ICQ conversations. my next thread might be something like "how many girls did Ben fuck at the Interclimax house and was this ever problem for anyone".

TheAmericanCannibal 07-13-2009 12:56 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pCDyiFUv9X...s320/wimpy.jpg


:pimp

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16059389)

Funny you don't have problem sitting around my table eating that hamburger when you hungry.

TheAmericanCannibal 07-13-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16059423)
Funny you don't have problem sitting around my table eating that hamburger when you hungry.

Funny you didn't believe me when I told u a certain PR guy you stiffed logged onto my computer and made the initial post that " Metro owed people huge" under my nick at the Starbucks on Topanga

You chose not to believe me.


I thank you for not hiring me on to do your PR for Kenny's movie, and Metro.
I know now you were being a friend by never getting back to me on both counts.

You didn't want me to be in the same predicament as others and I really DO appreciate that.

Everything happens for a reason.

JFK 07-13-2009 01:43 PM

I am Posting this on behalf of 2Lips Cash, who is NOT registered on the board

Tibor2lips (4:34 PM) :
i cant post dont know how to do it
JFK (4:34 PM) :
are you NOt a member ?
Tibor2lips (4:36 PM) :
No JF never done this, sorry

so here it goes........

Hi Ben, you remember me ? Tibor here from 2Lips Cash, A lot of people know me, being in the business for many years. We never Cheat anybody, but you as it stands, owe us 70,835.00 USD, for months.

So dont please dont say "never fucked anyone in my life and I have no plans to start doing so" . . Just pay me ......

I want my money paid, after all, I did pay all my girls that you have used on your site.

This is just to let everybody know that you owe 2lipscash $70,835.00 USD

I have not said anything up to this point, but I feel I must do so now.:2 cents:

Roald 07-13-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16059558)
I am Posting this on behalf of 2Lips Cash, who is NOT registered on the board

Tibor2lips (4:34 PM) :
i cant post dont know how to do it
JFK (4:34 PM) :
are you NOt a member ?
Tibor2lips (4:36 PM) :
No JF never done this, sorry

so here it goes........

Hi Ben, you remember me ? Tibor here from 2Lips Cash, A lot of people know me, being in the business for many years. We never Cheat anybody, but you as it stands, owe us 70,835.00 USD, for months.

So dont please dont say "never fucked anyone in my life and I have no plans to start doing so" . . Just pay me ......

I want my money paid, after all, I did pay all my girls that you have used on your site.

This is just to let everybody know that you owe 2lipscash $70,835.00 USD

I have not said anything up to this point, but I feel I must do so now.:2 cents:

damn :2 cents:

JFK 07-13-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 16059576)
damn :2 cents:

Tibor2lips (4:49 PM) :
Thx. JF let everybody know, now i dont care anymore, had enough !

JFK 07-13-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 16055972)
This thread has titanic level failure to it.

The best part is all of the post bots say "nice sites"

let me quote you again :thumbsup

JFK 07-13-2009 02:01 PM

100 outstanding invoices for $4950, PAY UP BEN and METRO MONEY !!!!!!!

BEN FROM HOLLAND 07-13-2009 02:46 PM

Since we are in the open this is what happen with Tibor. Yes
This is what we bth agreed on.
1: Thats $175.00 per a girl per 6 hours.
2: 24//7
3: I will only work with exclusive.
4: The payment will be done on the 1st and the 15th
5: Will be great if we can start with much girls as you can.
6: I will send you the log in info by Monday.
7: The girls will do exactly as the other girls on cams. Member chat to private and gang chat.
8: Let me have the contract.

Never been delivered
1: Contract
2: Model releases (2257)
3: Also the exclusive deal was broken

So it works both way
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:24:55 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

I'm wondering if you do know what's happening or not.
1: The girls are working on more than 1 platform
2: Most of the time they keep typing but not for Metro Babes.
3: As a log the models every time when they enter. We see a pattern they log out so many times during they shift for 5 min or more. This happens when someone takes them private from other platform.
4: I'm paying good money for the girls to work exclusive. I don mind if they want to work on other platforms if we can come to an other arrangements.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:21:06 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
Hi Ben,

i know you are long time in the cam b.and that you know a lot dont need to
tel me :))the girls are not working on other platforms ?? you cant find
them not at Flirt,Naked,Myfreecams etc.

They only work for me and my site( sometimes) thats all

No other platforms.

Dont wory Ben i know what are my girls do.

They have 2x 12 minute break and between they can go to WC
if you find a girl at another platform just let me know which.
Dont worry im not bull shiting you Ben why.???

Dont need to be concerned

Regards
Tibor
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Studio - Sales 0.50
Studio - Revenue 0.298500
Day Sales Revenue
7, Apr 11, 2009 0.50 0.298500
7, Apr 11, 2009 1.75 1.044750
6, Apr 10, 2009 0.25 0.149250
6, Apr 10, 2009 2.25 1.343250
6, Apr 10, 2009 0.50 0.298500
5, Apr 9, 2009 1.82 2.724540
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15 82.06 104.321820
14 43.03 50.744910
13 30.75 46.032750
12 37.75 43.011750

commonsense 07-13-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 16059437)
Funny you didn't believe me when I told u a certain PR guy you stiffed logged onto my computer and made the initial post that " Metro owed people huge" under my nick at the Starbucks on Topanga

You chose not to believe me.


I thank you for not hiring me on to do your PR for Kenny's movie, and Metro.
I know now you were being a friend by never getting back to me on both counts.

You didn't want me to be in the same predicament as others and I really DO appreciate that.

Everything happens for a reason.


Is Kenny still alive? He was in BAD shape a few years back. If he's still around then that's truly a miracle.

MaDalton 07-13-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16059558)
I am Posting this on behalf of 2Lips Cash, who is NOT registered on the board

Tibor2lips (4:34 PM) :
i cant post dont know how to do it
JFK (4:34 PM) :
are you NOt a member ?
Tibor2lips (4:36 PM) :
No JF never done this, sorry

so here it goes........

Hi Ben, you remember me ? Tibor here from 2Lips Cash, A lot of people know me, being in the business for many years. We never Cheat anybody, but you as it stands, owe us 70,835.00 USD, for months.

So dont please dont say "never fucked anyone in my life and I have no plans to start doing so" . . Just pay me ......

I want my money paid, after all, I did pay all my girls that you have used on your site.

This is just to let everybody know that you owe 2lipscash $70,835.00 USD

I have not said anything up to this point, but I feel I must do so now.:2 cents:


not exactly pocket change...

HorseShit 07-13-2009 03:22 PM

The amount of money this guy owes people is sad.

It's also sad some of you people let your invoices get that high.

commonsense 07-13-2009 03:24 PM

Let me get this straight. $175,000.00 + is owed to multiple parties?


OUCH.


This thread is destined for GFY history. Up there with the greats for botched program launches/failures.

TheAmericanCannibal 07-13-2009 03:28 PM

There's another big company that I am surprised hasn't jumped into this thread yet.

Then again the owner is the biggest diplomat in this business.
:thumbsup

JFK 07-13-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16059930)
not exactly pocket change...

No its not , unfortunately Tibor has gone to bed, as its past midnight in Europe, so he cant answer for himself at this point:2 cents:

commonsense 07-13-2009 07:28 PM

Crazy, that curiouscash thread has been bumped a thousand times for $105.


This is $175k. Guess the title of the thread makes a difference. :1orglaugh

JFK 07-13-2009 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 16060752)
Crazy, that curiouscash thread has been bumped a thousand times for $105.


This is $175k. Guess the title of the thread makes a difference. :1orglaugh

indeed it does:2 cents:

NYRangers 07-14-2009 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16059810)
Since we are in the open this is what happen with Tibor. Yes
This is what we bth agreed on.
1: Thats $175.00 per a girl per 6 hours.
2: 24//7
3: I will only work with exclusive.
4: The payment will be done on the 1st and the 15th
5: Will be great if we can start with much girls as you can.
6: I will send you the log in info by Monday.
7: The girls will do exactly as the other girls on cams. Member chat to private and gang chat.
8: Let me have the contract.

Never been delivered
1: Contract
2: Model releases (2257)
3: Also the exclusive deal was broken

So it works both way
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:24:55 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

I'm wondering if you do know what's happening or not.
1: The girls are working on more than 1 platform
2: Most of the time they keep typing but not for Metro Babes.
3: As a log the models every time when they enter. We see a pattern they log out so many times during they shift for 5 min or more. This happens when someone takes them private from other platform.
4: I'm paying good money for the girls to work exclusive. I don mind if they want to work on other platforms if we can come to an other arrangements.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:21:06 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
Hi Ben,

i know you are long time in the cam b.and that you know a lot dont need to
tel me :))the girls are not working on other platforms ?? you cant find
them not at Flirt,Naked,Myfreecams etc.

They only work for me and my site( sometimes) thats all

No other platforms.

Dont wory Ben i know what are my girls do.

They have 2x 12 minute break and between they can go to WC
if you find a girl at another platform just let me know which.
Dont worry im not bull shiting you Ben why.???

Dont need to be concerned

Regards
Tibor
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Account - Jul 13, 2009
Studio - Sales 0.50
Studio - Revenue 0.298500
Day Sales Revenue
7, Apr 11, 2009 0.50 0.298500
7, Apr 11, 2009 1.75 1.044750
6, Apr 10, 2009 0.25 0.149250
6, Apr 10, 2009 2.25 1.343250
6, Apr 10, 2009 0.50 0.298500
5, Apr 9, 2009 1.82 2.724540
Week Sales Revenue
15 82.06 104.321820
14 43.03 50.744910
13 30.75 46.032750
12 37.75 43.011750

You are pushing it and you know it. There are 4 companies that I know of that Metro has fucked. I will only go on record defending Julius and Tibor because they are the only two that I know personally that have been discussed in this thread. You are flat out fucked in the head trying to turn something back on Tibor. Probably the most straightforward person you could deal with. I know the deal and what was agreed to.

Take your reputation and your company and spew it to some ignorant fools who don't know any better. You got suckered into buying a shit company and as a result made shit promises and deals. Congrats.

Pleasurepays 07-14-2009 05:45 AM

For the record, i'm not saying Ben owes me money. I'm simply saying that what JFK went through is exactly what i experienced with him, when he worked for Claudia...

My ONLY experience with him was exactly this. Someone that will say anything he thinks you want to hear... then make an excuse about why it didn't happen, then say what you want to hear again and just keep that cycle going.

Even when its an obvious lie like saying "Federal Express picked up those boxes today, hit me up later and i'll have the tracking number for you" when it clearly didn't happen and it's easy to verify... then say again that it happened, he knows for sure.. even when it didn't happen... then say AGAIN that it happened, that its a fact, even when it didn't happen etc.

He can lie all he wants about not knowing what i'm talking about... but uhmm... .its a pretty weird and pretty specific thing to make up right? and what? 7 years later or so, i decided to call him an idiot just for thread views?

he's an idiot. he's a typical salesman bullshitter. he's full of shit.

his brother who was briefly hired as "operations manager" or "CEO" or whatever the fuck for Interclimax before Ben added "CEO" to his sig, who i assume he was almost instantly fired since he quietly disappeared right after, is just an idiot

PornNewz 07-14-2009 07:32 AM

Wow, this is an EPIC FAIL THREAD of BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

commonsense 07-14-2009 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornNewz (Post 16062194)
Wow, this is an EPIC FAIL THREAD of BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You gonna post this on your news site?

Machete_ 07-14-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 16062236)
You gonna post this on your news site?

most likely - and then he will make a new topic about it here on GFY where he links to it

JFK 07-14-2009 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16061972)
For the record, i'm not saying Ben owes me money. I'm simply saying that what JFK went through is exactly what i experienced with him, when he worked for Claudia...

My ONLY experience with him was exactly this. Someone that will say anything he thinks you want to hear... then make an excuse about why it didn't happen, then say what you want to hear again and just keep that cycle going.

Even when its an obvious lie like saying "Federal Express picked up those boxes today, hit me up later and i'll have the tracking number for you" when it clearly didn't happen and it's easy to verify... then say again that it happened, he knows for sure.. even when it didn't happen... then say AGAIN that it happened, that its a fact, even when it didn't happen etc.

He can lie all he wants about not knowing what i'm talking about... but uhmm... .its a pretty weird and pretty specific thing to make up right? and what? 7 years later or so, i decided to call him an idiot just for thread views?

he's an idiot. he's a typical salesman bullshitter. he's full of shit.

his brother who was briefly hired as "operations manager" or "CEO" or whatever the fuck for Interclimax before Ben added "CEO" to his sig, who i assume he was almost instantly fired since he quietly disappeared right after, is just an idiot

Thanks for clarifying that he does not owe you at this point, wondered where the $175K came from.

But as NYRangers has stated, he does owe 2 other large, well known companies in this business.

With those 2 other firms included, my guesstimate would be around the 100,000.00K mark. I am sure, the other companies are watching this thread with interest:2 cents:

WiredGuy 07-14-2009 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16058542)
Its called bad economy.

I'm sorry, but that won't cut it for me either. Don't blame bad sales for why you're late on payment. Everyone is having bad sales, but disrupting other people's cash flow as a result is a lot worse.
WG

JFK 07-14-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEN FROM HOLLAND (Post 16059810)
Since we are in the open this is what happen with Tibor. Yes
This is what we bth agreed on.
1: Thats $175.00 per a girl per 6 hours.
2: 24//7
3: I will only work with exclusive.
4: The payment will be done on the 1st and the 15th
5: Will be great if we can start with much girls as you can.
6: I will send you the log in info by Monday.
7: The girls will do exactly as the other girls on cams. Member chat to private and gang chat.
8: Let me have the contract.

Never been delivered
1: Contract
2: Model releases (2257)
3: Also the exclusive deal was broken

So it works both way
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Subject: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:24:55 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

I'm wondering if you do know what's happening or not.
1: The girls are working on more than 1 platform
2: Most of the time they keep typing but not for Metro Babes.
3: As a log the models every time when they enter. We see a pattern they log out so many times during they shift for 5 min or more. This happens when someone takes them private from other platform.
4: I'm paying good money for the girls to work exclusive. I don mind if they want to work on other platforms if we can come to an other arrangements.
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Subject: Re: Very Concerned
Date: March 24, 2009 8:21:06 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
Hi Ben,

i know you are long time in the cam b.and that you know a lot dont need to
tel me :))the girls are not working on other platforms ?? you cant find
them not at Flirt,Naked,Myfreecams etc.

They only work for me and my site( sometimes) thats all

No other platforms.

Dont wory Ben i know what are my girls do.

They have 2x 12 minute break and between they can go to WC
if you find a girl at another platform just let me know which.
Dont worry im not bull shiting you Ben why.???

Dont need to be concerned

Regards
Tibor
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The matter is now in the hands Tibor's California Attorney, so he is not prepaired to make any more comments at this point, aside from having total and absolute proof of the moneys owing.:2 cents:

Quagmire 07-14-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 16062653)
The matter is now in the hands Tibor's California Attorney, so he is not prepaired to make any more comments at this point, aside from having total and absolute proof of the moneys owing.:2 cents:

Strange how you are in this thread and he ignores you completely, but seems to tackle other posts and random crap.

I hope you get paid Julius...

TheAmericanCannibal 07-14-2009 10:01 AM

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