Well, I have not found an HTML 5 page that Chrome 3 can not handle and every HTML 5 page that I have tried to open in IE8 is a mess.

Do you know any anti-virus apps that break HTML 5 pages?

I seriously doubt that Flash is going anywhere.

The drawbacks of Flash are going away. We have been developing a Flash Application for sometime now that is breaking the boundries of what Flash can do!

SEO inside Flash
Shopping Carts inside Flash

just to name a few.

I'm not seeing from the examples how that could do these games : http://ooaz.com/

> powerful authoring tools like Flash :

The first thing people do when they open abobe flash the first time is shit all over
themselves because it will be 2 months before they get anything out of it that
looks professional.

It's not like you can go into flash and just push buttons to get what you want.
Well, at least I haven't figured out which buttons will do that.

My prediciton: Sysk is on irc right now talking shit about minorities.

Flash all the way

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HTML 5 Will It Replace Flash » RADS TECH
Everyone knows when it comes to media on the internet its all powered by flash. ...

Adobe said that Flash will not replace HTML5. HTML5 has a web page that contains the relevant audio-visual rich media tags, which many rely on plug-ins...

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Nothing changes on the web unless the porn business says so.:2 cents:

Here are some cool JS games http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/25-...d-inspiration/

Of course it will take time before Flash is replaced, but I think html 5 will make it possible in the long term.

Nice games, but I'm not blown away by it.

That solitaire game looks like shit when compared to this http://ooaz.com/ooaz/poker.html

Flash will never be replaced :)

We do a lot in Flash engineering, in fact we deployed one of the 1st full Flash version of a live cam platform which we started 4 years ago. Personally to early but that was our beginners fault when we started our business.

Back then everyone was spitting out Java push streams while we were struggling and coding in Flash Comm server / AS2.

About the future of technology usages, Flash/Flex/Air will be adapted by more companies because now with Flex Builder / Flash Catalyst you can create real applications and it easier to learn to develop or integrate artwork.

I also think that AIR will have a big impact on the way software (SaaS) will be integrated on the consumers desktop or used in the corporate world.

Take a look at TweetDeck (AIR Twitter desktop app) or www.photoshop.com (online version of Photoshop) to have a glue what you can do with Flash/Flex engineering now a days. These are just a few examples of the many you can find online.

For my own activities and new projects I will stick to Flash/Flex/AIR technology. In fact we are now building a next generation live video chat platform / affiliate program were we use this technology.

For 3d there are some "WAY" better options.. one of which is Unity3d and it blows flash and shockwave away on the web browser games. Flash's days are definitely numbered for the browser based games market if Adobe doesn't get with the program.

The sad part is Adobe could have dominated the 3D browser market with Shockwave, but instead they insisted on treating it like a red headed stepchild to push Flash instead. Now they have left the market open for competitors to move in and take much of the market share.

Adobe could have been pushing 3d browser based games several years ago, but they pretty much let shock wave die instead.

You make such a bold statement, and...

1. Give really poor, unimpressive examples of what will supposedly replace flash.

2. You seemingly have no idea of what Flash really does, if you compare it to some crappy interactive 3d. Apples and oranges.

3. You don't have to be a programmer to use Flash, although it does help. Most artists can use it easily.

sysk, i support your prediction, but most likely it will be html6 that kills flash not html5.

I understand many here are not able to vision this as flash seems to be able to do so much/everything at the moment, but the reason this will happen is:

1. Flash is proprietary and closed source, while javascript is open source, and open source evolution always beats closed source.

2. Flash is a plugin while html/javascript engines are natively built into browsers, so it will a LOT faster.

Not gonna happen, but hey nice try.

gotta love everyones argument that flash won't go away because they use it on their sites, or they are flash devs.

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