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u-Bob 07-02-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 16022708)
Bush is a war criminal
Obama isn't


as simple as that

That's not the difference...

The difference is:
If you exposed Bush for what he really was, you were labeled a terrorist.
If you expose Obama for what he really is, you are labeled a racist.

baddog 07-02-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 16022367)
Actually, I can: his ability to exploit emotions for political gain.

What do I win?

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16022436)
of course there's an "austrian" language - we germans would never call that german ;)

:1orglaugh

12clicks 07-02-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16022898)
projected... I will reserve complaint until I see real numbers.

hahaha, so obama's promises are good with you but CBO and WHITE HOUSE (thats obama, asshole) projections aren't?

stay on the porch little puppy. the adults are embarrassed for you.

nation-x 07-02-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16022923)
black man in office

thx for playing...

BVF 07-02-2009 08:26 AM

Long Live King Obama

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/coo...amakingfn9.jpg

nation-x 07-02-2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16022925)
hahaha, so obama's promises are good with you but CBO and WHITE HOUSE (thats obama, asshole) projections aren't?

stay on the porch little puppy. the adults are embarrassed for you.

I seem to remember alot of projections that the Bush Admin made that didn't even come close to being correct. A projection = a guess.

Martin 07-02-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16022862)
Agreed... but I think that people just hope for a real leader to emerge... whether or not Obama will follow through is yet to be seen. I gave GWB the benefit if the doubt too and I think that, as an American who believes in democracy, I owe Obama the same benefit of the doubt. :2 cents:

Don't hold your breath my friend. Any real leaders will have to come from the people. Not talking heads in suits who have their speeches written for them and have to read them off a teleprompter. Obama works for special interest groups. Just like GWB did. That last real President was Kennedy and Kennedy had been in office for only 3 months and he was already taking unprecedented steps to empower ordinary people. What did Obama do? He pushed for the bail out that gave out billions to huge coperations and banks.:2 cents:

seeandsee 07-02-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16022354)
What If George W. Bush had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?



If George W. Bush had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought this embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent "Austrian language," would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current on their income taxes, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to ?Cinco de Cuatro? in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the Fifth of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment?

If George W. Bush had misspelled the word advice would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and potato as ?proof? of what a dunce he is?

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on ?Earth Day?, would you have concluded he?s a hypocrite?

If George W. Bush?s administration had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually ?get? what happened on 9-11?

If George W. Bush had been the first President to need a teleprompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how he is inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

If George W. Bush had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 10 weeks -- so you'll have three years and nine-and-a-half months to come up with an answer.

:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

Slappin Fish 07-02-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16022880)
its becoming very lame sounding this whole... hes only been in office 30 days give him a chance, hes only been in office 60 days give him a chance, hes only been in office 90 days give him a chance....."

You are a retard :2 cents:

This economic situation developed over years... you are like a cancer patient who smoked for decades saying...stopped 30 days ago why don't I feel better, 60 days why do I still have cancer... I am getting worse since I stopped smoking...

In the short term, nobody can turn the economy.

EscortBiz 07-02-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 16023019)
You are a retard :2 cents:

This economic situation developed over years... you are like a cancer who smoked for decades saying...stopped 30 days ago why don't I feel better, 60 days why do I still have cancer... I am getting worse since I stopped smoking...

In the short term, nobody can turn the economy.

again the issue is the promises he made, the people who said yes lets trust him just because he said so and now the things hes doing that he promised he wont, how about just taking a minute to read facts for example he promised over and over again he wont raise taxes on those who make less than 250k a year, see what hes doing now with that promise http://www.businessinsider.com/comin...x-hikes-2009-6

So its not that anyone expected anything within 30 or 90 days but what I didnt expect is for someone to pretty much say one thing to win your vote than do another.

jmcb420 07-02-2009 08:58 AM

Obama has managed not to knock down any buildings. We should just let him do his thing.

gornyhuy 07-02-2009 08:58 AM

Recent History:

Chapter One: CLinton
-Clinton lucked into a huge economic boom due to a change in technology.
-Everyone got rich
-Tax revenues went through the roof
-deficit was substantially reduced
-everyone needed someplace to put their cash
-real estate boomed
-rules were changed so that anyone could get a loan no matter what
-crazy ass derivative products were introduced
-no real thought was given to terrorists or safe borders or the 'homeland'

Chapter Two: BUSH
-Bush "lucked" into 9/11 - he wasn't at fault for the shitty security conditions, but he had to respond and find a way to correct it.
-In reaction to those events, in a fog of war, he crushed our civil rights and many freedoms to increase our domestic security
-in reaction to those events, we attacked a bunch of countries and entered into a decade + of aggressive pre-emptive wars
-at home, the real estate market and lending practices and derivative securities sky rocketed into ridiculousness
-Finally the bubble burst and we all got shit on

Chapter Three: OBAMA
-Obama lucked into a financial shit storm. - he wasn't at fault for the shitty economic conditions, but he had to respond and find a way to correct it to try to prevent a national and global depression.
-in a fog of financial mayhem, he and congress pushed through unprecedented government spending in record time.
-Obama makes all kinds of promises about magically healing this serious financial problem while continuing to fight those same wars.

u-Bob 07-02-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 16023019)
You are a retard :2 cents:

"Those who cannot attack the thought instead attack the thinker." ? Ambroise-Paul-Toussaint-Jules Valéry. 1871-1945

gornyhuy 07-02-2009 09:01 AM

Hmmmm, looking at my history post, you could actually blame Clinton for both 9/11 AND the financial melt down.

Slappin Fish 07-02-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16023080)
"Those who cannot attack the thought instead attack the thinker." – Ambroise-Paul-Toussaint-Jules Valéry. 1871-1945

I attacked the thought a line down.

Guess you where just eager to place your Paul Valery quote.

jmcb420 07-02-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 16023083)
Hmmmm, looking at my history post, you could actually blame Clinton for both 9/11 AND the financial melt down.

The policys of the Clinton administration did absolutly nothing to prevent 9/11, I'll agree with that. But the Clinton administration was not in charge, and had not made several very questionable moves in the weeks leading up to 9/11.

Clinton wasn't the greatest, but times were pretty damn good back then.
Remember the internet bubble? lol..... I miss that shit, I wish it would happen again.

nation-x 07-02-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16023049)
again the issue is the promises he made, the people who said yes lets trust him just because he said so and now the things hes doing that he promised he wont, how about just taking a minute to read facts for example he promised over and over again he wont raise taxes on those who make less than 250k a year, see what hes doing now with that promise http://www.businessinsider.com/comin...x-hikes-2009-6

So its not that anyone expected anything within 30 or 90 days but what I didnt expect is for someone to pretty much say one thing to win your vote than do another.

Well... that is remaining to be seen... however, this is an opinion piece (which I noticed you guys love to quote... opinion pieces)... as of right now there is no proposed tax increase... and don't say that the energy bill is a tax increase because it isn't.

nation-x 07-02-2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 16023073)
Recent History:
-crazy ass derivative products were introduced

Just want to correct you... derivatives were introduced under Reagan... :2 cents:

Ravage 07-02-2009 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16022354)
So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive? Can't think of anything? Don't worry. He's done all this in 10 weeks -- so you'll have three years and nine-and-a-half months to come up with an answer.

I'm curious - what do you think McCain and MILF McCoy have done so drastically differently and kept the US running better than it is now?

GregE 07-02-2009 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16022880)
so tell me a date when you will say ok enough time has passed to decide if he followed thru or now? after his second term?

its becoming very lame sounding this whole... hes only been in office 30 days give him a chance, hes only been in office 60 days give him a chance, hes only been in office 90 days give him a chance....."

So.... you're saying that if the McCain-Palin ticket had won, the economy would already be better than it is right now?

Excuse my skepticism but somehow I'm not convinced of that :1orglaugh

Makaveli 07-02-2009 10:32 AM



Bow to your masters. This movie will tell who is really running the show.

u-Bob 07-02-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 16023428)
So.... you're saying that if the McCain-Palin ticket had won, the economy would already be better than it is right now?

Excuse my skepticism but somehow I'm not convinced of that :1orglaugh

Where did he say that?

12clicks 07-02-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris (Post 16023253)
I'm curious - what do you think McCain and MILF McCoy have done so drastically differently and kept the US running better than it is now?

they most likely would not be pushing thru a socialist agenda with unbelievably high costs and ridiculous spending.

BestXXXPorn 07-02-2009 10:51 AM

I voted Ron Paul because I'm logical and I believe in freedom... there's more important things than are in that list...

If Bush had pushed for a Fascist government would you have approved?

First look up the term Fascist...

Because that's what's going on now... Obama purchased 60% of GM on the tax payers dime... A failing company because their quality of product isn't competitive in the market place. The declining economy only brought that to light. Now the tax payers are in the auto industry... we bought Amtrack years ago and then the Fed Gov made it illegal to compete against them... What's in store for the auto industry?

What about this new bill for reducing green houses gases? It takes energy almost 100% and we're all going to pay for it.

How about regulating the tobacco industry that he signed off on and was passed? Now you can't have light or low tar cigarettes... you can't sell clove cigarettes... you can't sell shisha (and hookah bars have become quite popular [sorry all you new business owners, you're fucked])... they also regulate what the package of cigarettes can look like as well as all aspects of a matchbook... WTF?!

hypedough 07-02-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chit Chat (Post 16022387)
What are you gonna do with the answer? How is it going to help you and your family?

True story, nice rebuttle :thumbsup

gornyhuy 07-02-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 16023176)
Just want to correct you... derivatives were introduced under Reagan... :2 cents:

True - more to the point that you usually can't blame historically bad conditions and outcomes on any one president, congress, or law. Its a rolling clusterfuck and we're just trying to do the best we can with the information and conditions we have.

But specifically I meant some of those mortgage backed securities and the like.

kane 07-06-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16022755)
did he promise not to cum in your mouth too? :1orglaugh

http://www.12clicks.com/deficit.jpg

Someone else may have posted this already, but that graph is a little misleading. The Bush budget doesn't include the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He felt that the money spent on Iraq and Afghanistan should be accounted for differently. Obama disagreed and added that money back into the regular budget. So in order for that graph to be completely accurate you have to add in another 875 billion on Bush's side.

Obama is still spending money like crazy, most of it (at least at the moment) coming from the stimulus bill, but the difference isn't as big as that graph makes it appear to be.


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