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  • Kefir
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 99

    #1

    Bangbros account closing...

    My account got closed and I mailed Steve who was mentioned on 'login denied' page.

    The answer:

    "Steve wrote:
    > you have a negative amount associated with your account "

    Ok, so we go further, I have been on REVSHARE:

    Kefir ‎(23:26):
    hello, Kefir here re closed account
    Kefir ‎(23:27):
    you just got mail from me
    Steve ‎(23:27):
    yeah
    Kefir ‎(23:27):
    so
    regarding your answer
    if you prefer to close accounts of affiliates, fine
    Kefir ‎(23:28):
    I do not think it was the reason, but it is your will
    Kefir ‎(23:29):
    the stats I sent you are my stats remote 'all time' stats
    Steve ‎(23:29):
    i have no reason or want to close accounts
    i don't sit here, pick out people, and close accounts
    Steve ‎(23:30):
    i go by information provided by our processors
    a negative amount menas
    that there were chargebacks or credits
    that totaled more than what we paid you
    creating an off balance
    from a business sense
    ti doesn't make senese
    Kefir ‎(23:30):
    are these stats in any way different in terms of average affiliate stats?
    Steve ‎(23:31):
    the ones you gave about yourself?
    Kefir ‎(23:31):
    yes
    these are my stats TILL YOU CLOSED MY ACCNT
    and since they are not counted
    Steve ‎(23:32):
    your all time stats, i dont look at those. i look at the pay period
    Kefir ‎(23:32):
    ok... again...
    is my account closed now?
    so I cannot login to it
    Kefir ‎(23:33):
    I have made YOU over $3k, in whole my hostory there happened 3 credits (no chargebacks) according to my stats
    Steve ‎(23:33):
    your stats could also not be using the same data we use
    i don't go by statsremote
    Kefir ‎(23:34):
    I do go
    again
    IS MY ACCOUNT CLOSED?
    Steve ‎(23:34):
    yes
    Kefir ‎(23:35):
    and thats fine
    Kefir ‎(23:36):
    if you feel like closing an account for 3 credits (not chargebacks even) in comparison to overall stats is fine, then I am fine... just removed all your remaining links and galleries
    Steve ‎(23:36):
    i told you we don't go by stats remote for this
    we hvae data that isn't available to you
    Kefir ‎(23:36):
    stats remote were 100% accurate for me 100% of the time
    Kefir ‎(23:37):
    if you have different stats = your stats DIFFER FROM THE SHOWN TO AFFILIATES, then even more fine
    Steve ‎(23:37):
    stats
    like chargebacks
    Kefir ‎(23:38):
    stats remote shows YOUR stats I see in my affiliate panel
    Steve ‎(23:38):
    are done by the processors
    stats remote doesn't interface with them 100%
    Kefir ‎(23:38):
    so what are my stats?
    yes, stats remote only shows what YOU show...
    Steve ‎(23:39):
    stats remote
    shows
    your hits
    your joins
    we go by data given by our processors
    Kefir ‎(23:39):
    am I / was I on recurring or per signup?
    Kefir ‎(23:40):
    looking on rebills means REVSHARE
    so if you have other stats than me, what does it mean?
    Steve ‎(23:41):
    they are stats used by our credit card and ach processors
    Kefir ‎(23:42):
    and they are different from stats I see/saw in affiliate panel?
    Steve ‎(23:44):
    our internal stats that deal with credit card processing are used for internal matters
    Kefir ‎(23:45):
    do you understand me? do you know what revshare means????????
    Steve ‎(23:46):
    yes i do
    do you understand me?
    Kefir ‎(23:46):
    I sell = I get x%... My rebill gets billed = I get x% of that... My surfers credits = I get -x%
    Steve ‎(23:46):
    your rebill stats have nothing to do with our chargeback/credit stas
    Kefir ‎(23:47):
    so, if I am on REVSHARE
    what does it mean? that you have DIFFERENT stats than affiliate?
    Steve ‎(23:47):
    we use stats that you don't have access to
    its really that simple
    Kefir ‎(23:47):
    ok, as I said fine
    Kefir ‎(23:48):
    so
    you can keep my account closed
    Kefir ‎(23:49):
    and enjoy the rest of discussion about that on boards... I do really appreciate you tried to help me but, to be honest, something went wrong
    Steve ‎(23:50):
    i'm sorry?
    we have to continue this on boards now?
    Kefir ‎(23:50):
    yes, I will post you a link in seconds
    Steve ‎(23:50):
    k
    The stats I have in SR are:
    86 sales, 126 rebills, 3 credits

    Sorry it's from SR but as my account is closed I cannot make it from the program stats. What I keep reading on ICQ is, that I make more loss to bangbross than profit. Just in case you do not see it, I am on REVSHARE not per signup.

    Any comments?
  • st0ned
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2007
    • 8437

    #2
    Sounds pretty shitty, sorry to hear that. I have heard a number of people complain about having their accounts closed with BB but I have never had any issues with them. SR does in fact reflect chargebacks and credits as well, so you were correct in saying SR displays the exact stats that show to use within their affiliate admin. I have a hard time believing they just shut down random accounts so they must have had a pretty good reason for doing so.
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    • Kefir
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2003
      • 99

      #3
      Sorry wrong stats posted... I was on Per Signup it seems... Could not check that as... my accnt is closed.

      84 Sales, no chargebacks, no credits... at least according to SR till my accnt got closed.

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      • Sausage
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 3012

        #4
        Bangbros have been closing a lot of non us accounts. Got mine canned, many other very good wm's who have been in the biz for a long time have had theirs canned too.

        In 9 years its the 2nd program to have ever closed an account of mine out of probably 300 wm programs. Do a search many many other affiliates have had the same problem. I suggest you stay as far away as possible from BB regardless of their vocal 'bro club' following.
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        • georgeyw
          58008 53773
          • Jul 2005
          • 9865

          #5
          Interesting that you can get your account closed when being a revshare affiliate. I could understand if you had alot of chargebacks (which you said you didn't) but I think it is more likely they don't want smaller affiliates.....
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          • Kefir
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 99

            #6
            I have just posted above, I was on PPS finally, I made a mistake in checking stats. Whatever, I was affililiated with Bangbros for years and the correct stats above are from couple of years cumulated, it is not like sending tens of per su signups in one period.
            Originally posted by georgeyw
            Interesting that you can get your account closed when being a revshare affiliate. I could understand if you had alot of chargebacks (which you said you didn't) but I think it is more likely they don't want smaller affiliates.....

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            • sexdatesj
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2009
              • 1078

              #7
              Send your traffic to us, we pay $50 per signup and we don't close accounts unless you commit fraud and *excessive* chargebacks.

              either way, I know that shit sucks!
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              • Pipecrew
                Master of Gfy.com
                • Feb 2002
                • 14888

                #8
                Originally posted by Kefir
                ‎(23:49):and enjoy the rest of discussion about that on boards... I do really appreciate you tried to help me but, to be honest, something went wrong
                Steve ‎(23:50):
                i'm sorry?
                we have to continue this on boards now?
                Kefir ‎(23:50):
                yes, I will post you a link in seconds
                Steve ‎(23:50):
                ahh pure professionalism at it's finest. Affiliates that think we really just shut down affiliate accounts for 0 reason are marginal thinkers at best. Affiliates make us money, they make everyone money.

                Kefir, your account was terminated on Oct 22nd 2007. That was 1.5 years ago. According to our stats you have not sent a single sale since then and have been paid for everything before that. I fail to see the issue at hand but feel free to email me directly at jordanbangbros @ gmail

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                • HomerSimpson
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 13826

                  #9
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                  • 96ukssob
                    So Fucking Banananananas
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 12991

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kefir
                    My account got closed and I mailed Steve who was mentioned on 'login denied' page.

                    The answer:

                    "Steve wrote:
                    > you have a negative amount associated with your account "

                    Ok, so we go further, I have been on REVSHARE:
                    Originally posted by Pipecrew
                    ahh pure professionalism at it's finest. Affiliates that think we really just shut down affiliate accounts for 0 reason are marginal thinkers at best. Affiliates make us money, they make everyone money.

                    Kefir, your account was terminated on Oct 22nd 2007. That was 1.5 years ago. According to our stats you have not sent a single sale since then and have been paid for everything before that. I fail to see the issue at hand but feel free to email me directly at jordanbangbros @ gmail
                    1.5 years ago and your bringing it up now? I can see if they are doing some house cleaning and removing old accounts to prevent against fraud or password guessing, but know hows

                    just open a new account
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                    • Snake Doctor
                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 13449

                      #11
                      Sometimes, it's easy to tell when someone doesn't "get it"

                      Steve ‎(23:36):
                      i told you we don't go by stats remote for this
                      we hvae data that isn't available to you
                      Kefir ‎(23:36):
                      stats remote were 100% accurate for me 100% of the time
                      Kefir ‎(23:37):
                      if you have different stats = your stats DIFFER FROM THE SHOWN TO AFFILIATES, then even more fine
                      Originally posted by Kefir
                      Any comments?
                      Yes, you're a tool.
                      sig too big

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                      • thekingz
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2007
                        • 316

                        #12
                        fuckeddddddddddddddddd

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34512

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kefir
                          Sorry wrong stats posted... I was on Per Signup it seems... Could not check that as... my accnt is closed.

                          84 Sales, no chargebacks, no credits... at least according to SR till my accnt got closed.
                          PPS doesn't show CB or credits because they absorb it. The stats that steve is referring to include those credits and CB's, its not shown to affiliates. End of the day it seems they paid out $35-40/join * whatever joins you had and they didn't make that money back so it didn't make sense to keep you active. Based on jordan's reply, you were paid in full though. Consider yourself lucky.
                          WG
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                          • harvey
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 9266

                            #14
                            sorry, I might be slow, but are you talking about something that happened 1.5 years ago or am I missing something?
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