GOOGLE is banning linkex ?

**greg80** · 06-24-2009, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by d-null

I'm getting so paranoid I'm starting to go away from the whole idea of "blogroll" or "friends" type of linking, especially when it is sitewide, deep inlinks from a single page within a site has to be the best most realistic natural confidence vote out there, just wondering when google will move more and more in that direction?

I think this is just another myth. Sitewide links are a very normal thing with wordpress and other similar cms. No need to worry there imo

**LaoTzu** · 06-24-2009, 06:12 AM

Ban=Removed from index.
Penalty=Dropped in the SERPs.

Not trying to be a dick, but the thread conversation is about "Google Banning Linkex." There's a big difference, and Google has not banned linkex...

Originally posted by danevans

SmartThumbs ban didn't completely remove the sites from google, their positions on SERPs dropped several pages down.. so the fact that there are 38.000 results indexed doesn't mean much, webmasters who use linkex will confirm or deny their SE traffic drop..

**Fabien** · 06-24-2009, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Socks

Any proof of this?

LIKE YEAH !!!!!
But you know what ? I had for months top keywords for a site. Always showing up at the top of the first page. BANG it disappeared 2 days ago

Nowhere to be seen but still indexed tho.
Page 1039488557676775749483848392938485676

**Nicky** · 06-24-2009, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Show me where your using it and I will show you how.

You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

**Fabien** · 06-24-2009, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

There is a special variable in LinkEX:

PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex = 1;

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:

PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex = 0;

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

By making a link to the signup page to linkex ! Now this page you cannot change (sort of) !

**Fabien** · 06-24-2009, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by Fabien

LIKE YEAH !!!!!
But you know what ? I had for months top keywords for a site. Always showing up at the top of the first page. BANG it disappeared 2 days ago

Nowhere to be seen but still indexed tho.
Page 1039488557676775749483848392938485676

Ok here is what i just did.
I copied all the link trades to the page and removed the php code to generate linkex. Then i renamed the directory to /whateveriwant/ and removed index.php from it. So this way, i don't loose anything if i want to redo everything.

In other words, removed everything associated to it. Of course, i can"t check out every damn links manually, every hour but it's worth the test. I'll let you know if i get back to the top again.

**LeRoy** · 06-24-2009, 06:48 AM

I use it but the other way. just not on my server. So I hope I'm good

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Show me where your using it and I will show you how.
You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

Sorry man, but I think you are the crazy one - not me. Here is the example:

http://www.maturedesign.com/linksdemo.php/

Ok, now show me how if will find out I'm using linkex there?

Something is telling me that you will fail...

P.S. I will remove this demo page tomorrow, so hurry up please

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by Nicky

Another smart guy here? Look above for the example. It will be funny to see on how you will find out.

Originally posted by Fabien

By making a link to the signup page to linkex ! Now this page you cannot change (sort of) !

Personally I never do this. Private trade tet-a-tet only.

**brassmonkey** · 06-24-2009, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by fris

good linkex is garbage

why it was a free linking script

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 07:05 AM

Linux, Apache, PHP, Java and MySQL are also free (under the GNU and other free of charge licenses). Are they garbage too?

**cykoe6** · 06-24-2009, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

There is a special variable in LinkEX:

PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex = 1;

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:

PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex = 0;

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

Thanks for this.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 07:27 AM

Hey Jdoughs and Nicky, do you have any luck with my example? It's a REAL linex category blog included into the page as follows:

PHP Code:

<?php
include("http://www.<secret>.com/<secret>/data/output/1001");
?>

**Doctor Feelgood** · 06-24-2009, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by GAMEFINEST

From what I heard, linkex is on googles ban list?

POST PROOF OR BE BANNED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR.

**danayster** · 06-24-2009, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by dav3

That option is in the category settings also.

Yes this worked great, you can also simply modify the tag itself to say something like "Friends" instead of the generated by linkex....etc.

I also just added /linkex to robots.txt to be disallowed by the serps, hopefully this is enough.

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Hey Jdoughs and Nicky, do you have any luck with my example? It's a REAL linex category blog included into the page as follows:

PHP Code:

<?php
include("http://www.<secret>.com/<secret>/data/output/1001");
?>

You clearly are retarded.

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by danayster

Yes this worked great, you can also simply modify the tag itself to say something like "Friends" instead of the generated by linkex....etc.

I also just added /linkex to robots.txt to be disallowed by the serps, hopefully this is enough.

Yeah now they will never now!

Did you put in quotations to 'not index my automated linking system' into the htaccess as well.

Putting it in your robots.txt just guarenteed they know what you are doing.

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:26 AM

Cyberxxx, if the script is so good why go through such massive work to hide it?

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Sorry man, but I think you are the crazy one - not me. Here is the example:

http://www.maturedesign.com/linksdemo.php/

Ok, now show me how if will find out I'm using linkex there?

Something is telling me that you will fail...

P.S. I will remove this demo page tomorrow, so hurry up please

First off, those are Rochard's sites, and secondly, neither are even in top 20 for their 'main keyterms'. And most likely cause they are total link farms. (like most linkex sites)

But I know, you don't link to it to try to rank it, you use them hardlinks for 'other' reasons right?

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

You clearly are retarded.

I meant "block" but not "blog" (that was a typo). However, what about your previous statement? You said the following:

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Show me where your using it and I will show you how.

You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

Are you able to keep your word, or you are the one of those who love to speak but can't do a shit? Prove your words.

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Cyberxxx, if the script is so good why go through such massive work to hide it?

Using a different (non-default) folder name, and changing a single default config parameter in the script is called a "massive work" now?

Sorry, but it's you are the one who clearly retarded.

P.S. In my example above I was replaced the real domain name with "<secret>" just because I like to post links to my blogs and splogs on public forums. As I said above - I'm trading the links in personal way only - doesn't matter what exactly link manager I'm using.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

First off, those are Rochard's sites, and secondly, neither are even in top 20 for their 'main keyterms'. And most likely cause they are total link farms. (like most linkex sites)

That's not "first" and even not "second" of anything. I was using linkes block of links to Rochard's sites just because these sites are openly trade the links with linkex, so there is nothing but to use them as examples. However 99% of my link traders do not trade via public forms (so they can't be considered as link farms neither by you or by Google), so I don't want to expose those links here.

So the result: you failed. PERIOD.

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

That's not "first" and even not "second" of anything. I was using linkes block of links to Rochard's sites just because these sites are openly trade the links with linkex, so there is nothing but to use them as examples. However 99% of my link traders do not trade via public forms (so they can't be considered as link farms neither by you or by Google), so I don't want to expose those links here.

So the result: you failed. PERIOD.

Bottom line, if you have a page that is open for automated link trades they see it.

Say what you want. Unless its pass protected, all that has to happen is a webmaster with google toolbar to visit it. Telling them to not index it isnt stopping them from seeing it.

And sure I can call them link farms, I just looked at them, need me to count the outbounds?

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Are you able to keep your word, or you are the one of those who love to speak but can't do a shit? Prove your words.

Sure, like I said, show me where you are using it (the sign up page) and I will show you how they can see it.

Behind a pass protected directory is gonna be the only way, which you haven't eluded too. If so, then you've hidden it, but still have built a stereotypical linkex link farm.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Bottom line, if you have a page that is open for automated link trades they see it.

Can you read? I told twice: I DON'T HAVE SUCH A PAGE, and it has not relation to which exactly link manager I'm using. You not a nub in SEO, you know why.

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Say what you want.

What I am want??? Sorry man but you promised to find out the "tracks" of linkex on my sample page and you failed. That's it's actually *SHRUG*

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Unless its pass protected, all that has to happen is a webmaster with google toolbar to visit it. Telling them to not index it isnt stopping them from seeing it.

Of course it's pass-protected, because it's LinkEX LOL

P.S. I've removed that sample page because it's not actual anymore. Thank you for proving my statement from 1st page

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

If so, then you've hidden it, but still have built a stereotypical linkex link farm.

Actually I don't (I have no link farms at my own resources). Furthermore we were talking on how to detect LinkEX but not how to detect a linkfarm

**SmokeyTheBear** · 06-24-2009, 09:08 AM

is it not possible that google has streamlined their method of investigating "paid link trades" complaints..

i.e. an evildoer is reporting sites en masse to google, google is responding quickly.

**bbobby86** · 06-24-2009, 09:09 AM

they will always know if you use it

**Agent 488** · 06-24-2009, 09:09 AM

google should ban idiots for amking shit up and passing it off as common wisdom.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

is it not possible that google has streamlined their method of investigating "paid link trades" complaints..

i.e. an evildoer is reporting sites en masse to google, google is responding quickly.

That's why you must trade wisely and tet-a-tet only.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by bbobby86

they will always know if you use it

The same question: HOW?

**Agent 488** · 06-24-2009, 09:13 AM

am just looking at a linkex site ranking number one for their keyword.

should i believe gfy or google lol ...

i don't use linkex myself but this place is the misinformation factory ....

**Jdoughs** · 06-24-2009, 09:17 AM

I'm just gonna get back to my sites that have consistently been ranked top 3 in google for more years then some in this thread have been in the business.

Do what you feel works.

For the record too, there was no ban or penalty out for linkex, whoever the OP is they just were trying to stir shit up with the latest news of the ST incident.

**danayster** · 06-24-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Yeah now they will never now!

Did you put in quotations to 'not index my automated linking system' into the htaccess as well.

Putting it in your robots.txt just guarenteed they know what you are doing.

Hmmm, I'm not sure how to block the serps from seeing /linkex in htaccess without blocking everyone. What would be the code?

I've already masked the link on my homepage with an internal PHP redirect, so it doesn't link directory to linkex/index.php. Im going to change my signature on here now to do the same.

**TheSenator** · 06-24-2009, 09:32 AM

Grow your site organically. Trade links with people that update their content daily.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by danayster

Hmmm, I'm not sure how to block the serps from seeing /linkex in htaccess without blocking everyone. What would be the code?

If you don't want SE's to see your LinkEX directory, just rename it

It's very hard to block the search engines only, because you will have a HUGE list of their IP's and crawler's URL's. Not all search engines identify themselves in request headers.

**EthnicLover** · 06-24-2009, 09:58 AM

Don't you feel like you just wasted a small slice of your life with this thread?

**tranza** · 06-24-2009, 10:22 AM

Mmmmmm, maybe... Not working anymore?

**danayster** · 06-24-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

If you don't want SE's to see your LinkEX directory, just rename it

It's very hard to block the search engines only, because you will have a HUGE list of their IP's and crawler's URL's. Not all search engines identify themselves in request headers.

Good point, duly noted. I went ahead and renamed the /linkex directory to /partners and blocked it in robots.txt so the serps dont crawl it anyhow

**czarina** · 06-24-2009, 10:45 AM

is Comus next?

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 06-24-2009, 10:46 AM

stop the paranoia

linkex is not banned or penalzed

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 10:47 AM

Course it's not

**~Ray** · 06-24-2009, 11:01 AM

the OP should be banned for a month

**Nicky** · 06-24-2009, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Another smart guy here? Look above for the example. It will be funny to see on how you will find out.

Settle down there cowboy, I was just agreeing to that the "powered by" link is not the only way for google to see that you are using linkex.

**just a punk** · 06-24-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Nicky

Settle down there cowboy, I was just agreeing to that the "powered by" link is not the only way for google to see that you are using linkex.

Which is another one then?

**Doctor Feelgood** · 06-24-2009, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Feelgood

POST PROOF OR BE BANNED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR.

times up, YOU'RE BANNED

**Doctor Feelgood** · 06-24-2009, 01:24 PM

Whats the cron to make it check links every hour?

**budz** · 06-24-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by d-null

I feel disturbed about the whole thing, it is like not knowing which way to proceed.....

**Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life** · 06-24-2009, 04:58 PM

i loved linkex, but not on my own sites! allowed me to jack loads of high pr niche backlinks from lazy webmasters who didn't pay attention to their lists, and allowed a-b-c exchanges. even the minimum pr was easily skipped by and you could pull pr3 pr4 backlinks providingnothing but pr0 backlinks from freehosted autoblogs...

**GAMEFINEST** · 06-24-2009, 05:04 PM

google be hating these days ..

**Doctor Feelgood** · 06-24-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by GAMEFINEST

google be hating these days ..

i deleted it 6hours ago.
and i just got hit with a minus 11

GOOGLE is banning linkex ?

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