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V_RocKs 06-24-2009 02:13 AM

I haven't seen anything that supports this...

With Smart Thumbs it was obvious... 1000's of TGP's wiped from page 1 and 2 to pages 5 through 10....

I am not seeing this with Linkex.

LaoTzu 06-24-2009 02:32 AM

Not banned...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
38,000 Results.

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Juicy D. Links 06-24-2009 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 15991616)
Is there proof of this?

just speculation as I can see

BuRRRRRRRRRRRrp

danevans 06-24-2009 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15991290)
I think im going to get rid of hardlinks on all my sites... just interink within myself for hardlinks from now on... just too much work to keep having to check links for cheaters.

Same thing I was thinking, easier to make another bunch of my own blogs on a few cheap shared accounts or even freehosts like smut/tlogger etc, than keep up and constantly check for missing recips.. not the same volume of trades but mind at peace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaoTzu (Post 15991650)
Not banned...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
38,000 Results.
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SmartThumbs ban didn't completely remove the sites from google, their positions on SERPs dropped several pages down.. so the fact that there are 38.000 results indexed doesn't mean much, webmasters who use linkex will confirm or deny their SE traffic drop..

just a punk 06-24-2009 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 15990782)
From what I heard, linkex is on googles ban list?

Sounds very funny because how Google will know that I'm using linkex?

Any ideas :winkwink:

Simon_Spicecash 06-24-2009 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991898)
Sounds very funny because how Google will know that I'm using linkex?

Any ideas :winkwink:

unless you modified the script (or there is a new version I'm not aware of), it writes "generated by linkex" in your source code :) the rest is straight HTML, it's true - and google sees it that way because it executes the php, but linkex writes out that it generated it hehe

just a punk 06-24-2009 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDSmontreal (Post 15991921)
unless you modified the script (or there is a new version I'm not aware of), it writes "generated by linkex" in your source code :) the rest is straight HTML, it's true - and google sees it that way because it executes the php, but linkex writes out that it generated it hehe

There is a special variable in LinkEX:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 1

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 0

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code :winkwink:

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

Simon_Spicecash 06-24-2009 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991938)
There is a special variable in LinkEX:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 1

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 0

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code :winkwink:

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

thanks for the tip!

dav3 06-24-2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991938)
There is a special variable in LinkEX:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 1

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 0

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code :winkwink:

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

That option is in the category settings also. :thumbsup

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991938)

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

Show me where your using it and I will show you how.

You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

greg80 06-24-2009 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15990957)
I'm getting so paranoid I'm starting to go away from the whole idea of "blogroll" or "friends" type of linking, especially when it is sitewide, deep inlinks from a single page within a site has to be the best most realistic natural confidence vote out there, just wondering when google will move more and more in that direction?

I think this is just another myth. Sitewide links are a very normal thing with wordpress and other similar cms. No need to worry there imo

LaoTzu 06-24-2009 07:12 AM

Ban=Removed from index.
Penalty=Dropped in the SERPs.

Not trying to be a dick, but the thread conversation is about "Google Banning Linkex." There's a big difference, and Google has not banned linkex...

Quote:

Originally Posted by danevans (Post 15991837)
SmartThumbs ban didn't completely remove the sites from google, their positions on SERPs dropped several pages down.. so the fact that there are 38.000 results indexed doesn't mean much, webmasters who use linkex will confirm or deny their SE traffic drop..


Fabien 06-24-2009 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15991019)
Any proof of this?


LIKE YEAH !!!!!
But you know what ? I had for months top keywords for a site. Always showing up at the top of the first page. BANG it disappeared 2 days ago :disgust
Nowhere to be seen but still indexed tho.
Page 1039488557676775749483848392938485676:mad:

Nicky 06-24-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15991994)
Show me where your using it and I will show you how.

You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

:2 cents:

Fabien 06-24-2009 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991938)
There is a special variable in LinkEX:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 1

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 0

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code :winkwink:

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

By making a link to the signup page to linkex ! Now this page you cannot change (sort of) !

Fabien 06-24-2009 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 15992172)
LIKE YEAH !!!!!
But you know what ? I had for months top keywords for a site. Always showing up at the top of the first page. BANG it disappeared 2 days ago :disgust
Nowhere to be seen but still indexed tho.
Page 1039488557676775749483848392938485676:mad:

Ok here is what i just did.
I copied all the link trades to the page and removed the php code to generate linkex. Then i renamed the directory to /whateveriwant/ and removed index.php from it. So this way, i don't loose anything if i want to redo everything.

In other words, removed everything associated to it. Of course, i can"t check out every damn links manually, every hour but it's worth the test. I'll let you know if i get back to the top again.:winkwink:

LeRoy 06-24-2009 07:48 AM

I use it but the other way. just not on my server. So I hope I'm good

just a punk 06-24-2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15991994)
Show me where your using it and I will show you how.
You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

Sorry man, but I think you are the crazy one - not me. Here is the example:

http://www.maturedesign.com/linksdemo.php/

Ok, now show me how if will find out I'm using linkex there?

Something is telling me that you will fail...

P.S. I will remove this demo page tomorrow, so hurry up please :)

just a punk 06-24-2009 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15992178)
:2 cents:

Another smart guy here? Look above for the example. It will be funny to see on how you will find out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 15992185)
By making a link to the signup page to linkex ! Now this page you cannot change (sort of) !

Personally I never do this. Private trade tet-a-tet only.

brassmonkey 06-24-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 15990867)
good linkex is garbage

why it was a free linking script

just a punk 06-24-2009 08:05 AM

Linux, Apache, PHP, Java and MySQL are also free (under the GNU and other free of charge licenses). Are they garbage too?

cykoe6 06-24-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15991938)
There is a special variable in LinkEX:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 1

The only thing you need to do is to change it as follows:
PHP Code:

var $exposelinkex 0

And there will be no "generated by linkex" bullshit in your HTML code :winkwink:

So I will ask again:

How Google will know if I'm using linkex?

Thanks for this. :thumbsup

just a punk 06-24-2009 08:27 AM

Hey Jdoughs and Nicky, do you have any luck with my example? It's a REAL linex category blog included into the page as follows:
PHP Code:

<?php
include("http://www.<secret>.com/<secret>/data/output/1001");
?>


Doctor Feelgood 06-24-2009 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST (Post 15990782)
From what I heard, linkex is on googles ban list?

POST PROOF OR BE BANNED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR.



:1orglaugh

danayster 06-24-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 15991992)
That option is in the category settings also. :thumbsup

Yes this worked great, you can also simply modify the tag itself to say something like "Friends" instead of the generated by linkex....etc.

I also just added /linkex to robots.txt to be disallowed by the serps, hopefully this is enough.

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992360)
Hey Jdoughs and Nicky, do you have any luck with my example? It's a REAL linex category blog included into the page as follows:
PHP Code:

<?php
include("http://www.<secret>.com/<secret>/data/output/1001");
?>


You clearly are retarded.

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danayster (Post 15992493)
Yes this worked great, you can also simply modify the tag itself to say something like "Friends" instead of the generated by linkex....etc.

I also just added /linkex to robots.txt to be disallowed by the serps, hopefully this is enough.

Yeah now they will never now!

Did you put in quotations to 'not index my automated linking system' into the htaccess as well.

Putting it in your robots.txt just guarenteed they know what you are doing.

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:26 AM

Cyberxxx, if the script is so good why go through such massive work to hide it?

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992269)
Sorry man, but I think you are the crazy one - not me. Here is the example:

http://www.maturedesign.com/linksdemo.php/

Ok, now show me how if will find out I'm using linkex there?

Something is telling me that you will fail...

P.S. I will remove this demo page tomorrow, so hurry up please :)



First off, those are Rochard's sites, and secondly, neither are even in top 20 for their 'main keyterms'. And most likely cause they are total link farms. (like most linkex sites)

But I know, you don't link to it to try to rank it, you use them hardlinks for 'other' reasons right?

just a punk 06-24-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992575)
You clearly are retarded.

I meant "block" but not "blog" (that was a typo). However, what about your previous statement? You said the following:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15991994)
Show me where your using it and I will show you how.

You are crazy if you think something so MINOR as a "powered by' link is how they will find them all.

Are you able to keep your word, or you are the one of those who love to speak but can't do a shit? Prove your words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992583)
Cyberxxx, if the script is so good why go through such massive work to hide it?

Using a different (non-default) folder name, and changing a single default config parameter in the script is called a "massive work" now? :helpme :1orglaugh

Sorry, but it's you are the one who clearly retarded.

P.S. In my example above I was replaced the real domain name with "<secret>" just because I like to post links to my blogs and splogs on public forums. As I said above - I'm trading the links in personal way only - doesn't matter what exactly link manager I'm using.

just a punk 06-24-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992619)
First off, those are Rochard's sites, and secondly, neither are even in top 20 for their 'main keyterms'. And most likely cause they are total link farms. (like most linkex sites)

That's not "first" and even not "second" of anything. I was using linkes block of links to Rochard's sites just because these sites are openly trade the links with linkex, so there is nothing but to use them as examples. However 99% of my link traders do not trade via public forms (so they can't be considered as link farms neither by you or by Google), so I don't want to expose those links here.

So the result: you failed. PERIOD.

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992645)
That's not "first" and even not "second" of anything. I was using linkes block of links to Rochard's sites just because these sites are openly trade the links with linkex, so there is nothing but to use them as examples. However 99% of my link traders do not trade via public forms (so they can't be considered as link farms neither by you or by Google), so I don't want to expose those links here.

So the result: you failed. PERIOD.

Bottom line, if you have a page that is open for automated link trades they see it.

Say what you want. Unless its pass protected, all that has to happen is a webmaster with google toolbar to visit it. Telling them to not index it isnt stopping them from seeing it.

And sure I can call them link farms, I just looked at them, need me to count the outbounds?

Jdoughs 06-24-2009 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 15992635)
Are you able to keep your word, or you are the one of those who love to speak but can't do a shit? Prove your words.

Sure, like I said, show me where you are using it (the sign up page) and I will show you how they can see it.

Behind a pass protected directory is gonna be the only way, which you haven't eluded too. If so, then you've hidden it, but still have built a stereotypical linkex link farm.

just a punk 06-24-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992652)
Bottom line, if you have a page that is open for automated link trades they see it.

Can you read? I told twice: I DON'T HAVE SUCH A PAGE, and it has not relation to which exactly link manager I'm using. You not a nub in SEO, you know why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992652)
Say what you want.

What I am want??? Sorry man but you promised to find out the "tracks" of linkex on my sample page and you failed. That's it's actually *SHRUG*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992652)
Unless its pass protected, all that has to happen is a webmaster with google toolbar to visit it. Telling them to not index it isnt stopping them from seeing it.

Of course it's pass-protected, because it's LinkEX LOL :)


P.S. I've removed that sample page because it's not actual anymore. Thank you for proving my statement from 1st page :)

just a punk 06-24-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15992667)
If so, then you've hidden it, but still have built a stereotypical linkex link farm.

Actually I don't (I have no link farms at my own resources). Furthermore we were talking on how to detect LinkEX but not how to detect a linkfarm :2 cents:

SmokeyTheBear 06-24-2009 10:08 AM

is it not possible that google has streamlined their method of investigating "paid link trades" complaints..

i.e. an evildoer is reporting sites en masse to google, google is responding quickly.

bbobby86 06-24-2009 10:09 AM

they will always know if you use it

Agent 488 06-24-2009 10:09 AM

google should ban idiots for amking shit up and passing it off as common wisdom.

just a punk 06-24-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15992699)
is it not possible that google has streamlined their method of investigating "paid link trades" complaints..

i.e. an evildoer is reporting sites en masse to google, google is responding quickly.

That's why you must trade wisely and tet-a-tet only.

just a punk 06-24-2009 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbobby86 (Post 15992704)
they will always know if you use it

The same question: HOW? :winkwink:


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