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Too Much Media Tube Software - Tube Studio - Pricing released!

06-22-2009, 08:40 AM

TMM's fully featured tube software, Tube Studio, is currently in beta and will be fully released very shortly. I wanted to share pricing with everyone ahead of that.

Tube Studio is licensed on a per-domain/site basis and there are two parts to it. First, you need the Tube Studio engine/backend for your server. This is a one time fee per server you install the software on. There is then a per site license for each site/domain you wish to run a tube on. Each server/engine can support as many of these site site licenses as your server will allow. The pricing is as follows...

Tube Studio engine/backend: $95 (one time fee per server it is installed on)
Tube Studio Site License: $15/month (one per site/domain is required)

Therefore, if you wanted to run one tube site your cost would be $95 one time + $15/mo
If you wanted to run 10 tube sites on one server your cost would be $95 one time + $150/mo
If you wanted to run 40 tube sites on two servers your cost would be $190 one time + $600/mo

This is a fully featured tube software including lots of user interactivity, video features, etc. and is supported by Too Much Media, the industry's leading software developer. More details on features are coming very soon.

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06-22-2009, 08:44 AM

interesting pricing

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06-22-2009, 08:49 AM

Nice, please have Vlad hit me up when it is available.

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06-22-2009, 08:50 AM

So the tube price wars have begun.

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06-22-2009, 08:50 AM

sounds good
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06-22-2009, 08:51 AM

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06-22-2009, 08:52 AM

well, it looks lke the tubescript war has really begun now

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06-22-2009, 08:59 AM

I know you guys have been working hard to release this. Congrats and everything looks great!

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06-22-2009, 09:03 AM

You guys dont have a demo or preview ?
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06-22-2009, 09:06 AM

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06-22-2009, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Inter-Sex

You guys dont have a demo or preview ?

Not quite public yet... shoot me an ICQ, 5596373.

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06-22-2009, 09:07 AM

Nice...Do you any screen shots?

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06-22-2009, 09:07 AM

Can you post a demo site once its ready as I'd like to see how a sample site using it.

Also, how scalable is the engine, how many hits can it handle?
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06-22-2009, 09:09 AM

Thanks everyone for all of the feedback so far.

http://www.dailyvids.com is an example site running on it. Its not updated with videos on a regular basis nor are the templates perfect (programmers don't bother to clean that stuff up too much), but it can give you an idea.

A better public demo will be available with launch.

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06-22-2009, 09:09 AM

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06-22-2009, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Can you post a demo site once its ready as I'd like to see how a sample site using it.

Also, how scalable is the engine, how many hits can it handle?
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This is a very tough question to answer as there are many factors not the least of which being what hardware it is running on. Anyone who tells you their software can handle "x" hits is feeding you a line of bullshit.

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06-22-2009, 09:12 AM

why would you care whether a webmaster runs 5 sites on 5 different servers or 5 sites on one server?

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06-22-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by TMM_John

This is a very tough question to answer as there are many factors not the least of which being what hardware it is running on. Anyone who tells you their software can handle "x" hits is feeding you a line of bullshit.

Totally understandable, but for benchmarking purposes, can you provide an estimate as to how much a single tube site can take? For example, given a quadcore 4 gig of ram server, how many hits per day can it handle?

The way you priced the software you mentioned a few samples of 10 tube sites on 1 server, but it would be nice to know if 10 tube sites can actually run on a single server or if the server would come to a crawl. Ballpark figure is fine, doesn't need to be 100% accurate.

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06-22-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Totally understandable, but for benchmarking purposes, can you provide an estimate as to how much a single tube site can take? For example, given a quadcore 4 gig of ram server, how many hits per day can it handle?

The way you priced the software you mentioned a few samples of 10 tube sites on 1 server, but it would be nice to know if 10 tube sites can actually run on a single server or if the server would come to a crawl. Ballpark figure is fine, doesn't need to be 100% accurate.

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Even a ballpark figure is hard. It is very optimized and I would not imagine you having trouble running large traffic through it. It is not going to kill a server at 10s of thousands or 100k hits. Unfortunately stress testing these things isn't the easiest or most accurate thing to do and there obviously aren't any very large sites running it yet. I can say we do have a lot of experience with high loads.

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06-22-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by d-null

why would you care whether a webmaster runs 5 sites on 5 different servers or 5 sites on one server?

It creates more issues support wise, its more deployments, and its simply just how we decided our licensing structure was going to work.

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06-22-2009, 09:34 AM

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Tube Studio Site License: $15/month

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06-22-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by Mr.Right

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06-22-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by TMM_John

Even a ballpark figure is hard. It is very optimized and I would not imagine you having trouble running large traffic through it. It is not going to kill a server at 10s of thousands or 100k hits. Unfortunately stress testing these things isn't the easiest or most accurate thing to do and there obviously aren't any very large sites running it yet. I can say we do have a lot of experience with high loads.

Mind me asking what language its coded in in that case?
C/C++/Java/Perl?
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06-22-2009, 09:38 AM

The demo looks cool so far.

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06-22-2009, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Mind me asking what language its coded in in that case?
C/C++/Java/Perl?
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All of our software is in PHP.

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06-22-2009, 09:41 AM

will it be able to handle over a million uniques a day?

Curious, also why charging so little?

Is this only for Nats customers? or can anyone buy it

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06-22-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by fris

will it be able to handle over a million uniques a day?

Same answers as above regarding load... there are lots of variables. I would say if your server can handle other things doing over 1mil unq/day then yes.

Originally posted by fris

Curious, also why charging so little?

I'm not a huge fan of sharing my detailed reasoning behind business decisions and strategy here so I'll just say I think it is a fantastic deal for anyone looking to open tube sites.

Originally posted by fris

Is this only for Nats customers? or can anyone buy it

It is for anyone. There will be integrations for both those who run NATS and those who are affiliates of NATS based programs.

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06-22-2009, 09:47 AM

Also Fris, I've noticed you've been doing some tube skins. Tube Studio will have skins that can be plugged in. These will be available on our website and 3rd parties will be able to submit them. At first only free skins, but quite possibly in the future paid skins. Credit and a link will of course be given for the free skins. Just wanted to throw this in here as I thought it might interest you.

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06-22-2009, 09:56 AM

With all the tube scripts out there, that appear to be at least decant. Why would anyone want to pay a monthly fee for tube script?

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06-22-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by crockett

With all the tube scripts out there, that appear to be at least decant. Why would anyone want to pay a monthly fee for tube script?

Some of them cost as much as $1500. At $15/mo that's over 8 years of the monthly fee before you catch up.

Of course, some of them are much less, but even at $300 you're talking about almost 2 years.

I believe our software will be well worth the $15/month. I think it is actually a very competitive price point.

Also, one of your main concerns when shopping for software should be support. Someone selling a $20 or $50 program is not going to offer you fantastic support. A monthly fee in a way creates an ongoing relationship, which is a plus for both parties.

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06-22-2009, 10:04 AM

I really hate the whole "keep paying monthly" to use our software method. Say I forget to make a payment one month... I can already tell what will happen.. some kind of parking page saying my license expired and all that traffic gets pushed to TMM.

Nice product, but no thanks. Good luck with it. I've never been a fan of leasing.. whether it's cars or software.

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06-22-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by sharphead

I really hate the whole "keep paying monthly" to use our software method. Say I forget to make a payment one month... I can already tell what will happen.. some kind of parking page saying my license expired and all that traffic gets pushed to TMM.

Nice product, but no thanks. Good luck with it. I've never been a fan of leasing.. whether it's cars or software.

That's a bold assumption that if you forget to pay your bill we'd redirect traffic to us. For example you rarely know when a NATS license goes unpaid as only the admin is affected. The affiliates don't see a difference. Unless of course the software goes unpaid for months and months and months. Then, should we be forced to totally shut it down it simply displays that there is no valid license.

Also, there will easy auto-payments as well as the ability to pay a large time period in advance.

I do understand some people hate the concept, but a lot also prefer it. We may do one time cost site licenses. At this point we've decided not to, but nothing is set in stone.

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06-22-2009, 10:07 AM

does it accept use submissions or is this sponsor only tube site script.

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06-22-2009, 10:10 AM

Here's my take on it.

Some people might not have the cash flow to startup a tube network with 300$+ licence fees for other scripts.

At 15$ a month, you're pretty much scratching the tube script from your startup fees and can use the money you save to invest into either traffic, promo or whatever. If after a couple of months you're tube isn't generating 15$/month to pay for the script, I think you should look at a new line of work.

Thats my 2 cents. 15$/month is cheap

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06-22-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by gideongallery

does it accept use submissions or is this sponsor only tube site script.

It will do both, and you'll be able to turn user submissions on & off of course.

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06-22-2009, 10:11 AM

AWESOME! That's a great idea Cant wait to see more of it

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06-22-2009, 10:11 AM

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06-22-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by NoWhErE

Here's my take on it.

Some people might not have the cash flow to startup a tube network with 300$+ licence fees for other scripts.

At 15$ a month, you're pretty much scratching the tube script from your startup fees and can use the money you save to invest into either traffic, promo or whatever. If after a couple of months you're tube isn't generating 15$/month to pay for the script, I think you should look at a new line of work.

Thats my 2 cents. 15$/month is cheap

Exactly.

In addition to just running one site... lets say you wanted to open 10 tube sites. At $300-500 per site you're talking about $3000-5000 up front to get these sites off the ground. Going our route you would be paying $95 + $150/mo and as you said have a lot more funds freed up for making those sites work.

I do fully understand some people might want to not deal with a monthly payment tho. There are valid reasons for that.

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06-22-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by TMM_John

Also Fris, I've noticed you've been doing some tube skins. Tube Studio will have skins that can be plugged in. These will be available on our website and 3rd parties will be able to submit them. At first only free skins, but quite possibly in the future paid skins. Credit and a link will of course be given for the free skins. Just wanted to throw this in here as I thought it might interest you.

Is it going to be using smarty or your own template system?

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06-22-2009, 10:18 AM

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Is it going to be using smarty or your own template system?

It uses smarty. If you'd like a copy of the engine installed on your server to learn it/make some templates I'd be more than happy to have it installed for you a bit before we launch (which would mean installed this week).

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06-22-2009, 10:25 AM

Good job John, good to see you guys going into more of a webmaster market and not a program market.

Only 1 suggestion from another programmers point of view... SEO links, SEO links, SEO links!

http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1653

That URL is ugly and not very SE friendly... Most people will want some kind of SE friendly URL, put that feature in ASAP.

Other than that, good job and it looks nice.
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06-22-2009, 10:26 AM

FYI A lot of videos are not loading.
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06-22-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Killswitch

Good job John, good to see you guys going into more of a webmaster market and not a program market.

Only 1 suggestion from another programmers point of view... SEO links, SEO links, SEO links!

http://www.dailyvids.com/video.php?video_id=1653

That URL is ugly and not very SE friendly... Most people will want some kind of SE friendly URL, put that feature in ASAP.

Other than that, good job and it looks nice.

Thanks. If you'd like to shoot me over some thoughts on linking structure I'll make sure they get in pre-launch (albright/toomuchmedia/com). In light of the ST fiasco (not ST's fault in any way IMO and I feel horrible for them), doing some customizable linking structure is probably a good idea also.

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06-22-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies

FYI A lot of videos are not loading.

Can you post an example link or two here. Thanks.

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06-22-2009, 10:30 AM

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06-22-2009, 10:31 AM

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06-22-2009, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by TMM_John

Thanks. If you'd like to shoot me over some thoughts on linking structure I'll make sure they get in pre-launch (albright/toomuchmedia/com). In light of the ST fiasco (not ST's fault in any way IMO and I feel horrible for them), doing some customizable linking structure is probably a good idea also.

Not much really to say other than making it very customizable like how wordpress does would be good also, and could cutback on being able to tell what script is running based on urls.

Most of my sites use a URI handler I wrote myself that pretty much makes every page look like it's own single .html document in the root folder.

For example:
Index - mysite.com/index.html
Videos - mysite.com/videos.html
Most Viewed - mysite.com/most-viewed.html
Video Page - mysite.com/the-title-of-the-video.html

Makes it cleaner and not a very long url, but also makes search engines feel like it's a more static site and not dynamic, which means more trust.
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06-22-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by TMM_John

It uses smarty. If you'd like a copy of the engine installed on your server to learn it/make some templates I'd be more than happy to have it installed for you a bit before we launch (which would mean installed this week).

Yep, you can do that.

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06-22-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Killswitch

Not much really to say other than making it very customizable like how wordpress does would be good also, and could cutback on being able to tell what script is running based on urls.

Most of my sites use a URI handler I wrote myself that pretty much makes every page look like it's own single .html document in the root folder.

For example:
Index - mysite.com/index.html
Videos - mysite.com/videos.html
Most Viewed - mysite.com/most-viewed.html
Video Page - mysite.com/the-title-of-the-video.html

Makes it cleaner and not a very long url, but also makes search engines feel like it's a more static site and not dynamic, which means more trust.

Yep, I was thinking of exactly along the lines of WordPress's options.. a few standard choices and custom if you'd like.

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06-22-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by fris

Yep, you can do that.

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